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I was afraid that X-men 3 would be lacking in story. Honestly I think that this movie stayed trurer to the comics than the previous movies. In my opinion most Comic readers will agree that this movie resembles what the comics were about much more than the first two by being a darker movie, with more death.

Singer obviously is a better director, makes cleaner movies with a finer edges, but that is all x-men the last stand was missing. The finer edges, but the story was great. I don't blame the director for the movie not being like the first two. I think if he directs part 4 the movie will be twice as clean.

Don't get me wrong I love singers versions, but I think they are headed in a new direction and I think it's not bad, its more like getting back to the original comics.

If someone dosn't like this movie its probably cause they never read the comics, but they watched the cartoons, or just watched the movies which are the watered down versions. The comics were full of tragedy, and of course they were full of people coming back to life.

P.S. You have to be half retarted if you think Cyclops is dead, he's one of the main X-men he'll be back. Pick up a comic or two and read, you'll start to understand how the type of things work in the marvel universe.
 
x3 had a diffrent flow then the first two wich is horrible for a sequal
and x-men was about the charecters and i dint see it in this one i mean come on Wolverine was all like we can do it as a team and crap. thats not Wolverine

i didnt mind the the darker feel to the movie but it all felt rushed
 
greggumz said:
I was afraid that X-men 3 would be lacking in story. Honestly I think that this movie stayed trurer to the comics than the previous movies. 1)In my opinion most Comic readers will agree that this movie resembles what the comics were about much more than the first two by being a darker movie, with more death.

Singer obviously is a better director, makes cleaner movies with a finer edges, but that is all x-men the last stand was missing. 2)The finer edges, but the story was great. I don't blame the director for the movie not being like the first two. I think if he directs part 4 the movie will be twice as clean.

Don't get me wrong I love singers versions, but I think they are headed in a new direction and I think it's not bad, 3)its more like getting back to the original comics.

If someone dosn't like this movie its probably cause 4) they never read the comics, but they watched the cartoons, or just watched the movies which are the watered down versions. The comics were full of tragedy, and of course they were full of people coming back to life.

P.S. 5)You have to be half retarted if you think Cyclops is dead, he's one of the main X-men he'll be back. Pick up a comic or two and read, you'll start to understand how the type of things work in the marvel universe.

1) Comics are not darker with more death. Thats not what they are, thats the cliche'd crap writers like Bendis have turned them into. Comics are about characters not stupid deaths and ressaurections, in fact most fans would change that about comics if they could.

2) Finer edges, of what exactly. No story, no reason on how or why characters were in scenes. No motivation. The Phoenix was just some goon. Leech, Angel, Colossus, Kitty, Iceman...virtually every not named Wolverine, Storm or Magneto, were non characters who could have been interchanged with DC characters for all intents and purposes.

3) The original comics. Which ones. Stan Lee's weren't overcrowded with mutants. Claremonts focused more on character development than action, and Cyclops was typically the main show. Jim Lee and Fabians had more action but also took on a very soap opera feel and did many memorable issues and brought a family dynamic to the team, making them like a dysfunctional extended family. Whedon's are heavily dialogue driven. Yes they HAVE action, but the comic of X-Men has and always is a character driven one, not a powersfest. And not Halle and Hugh + cameos. X-Men is an Ensemble

4) I have every issue since the Phoenix Saga of Uncanny, try again.

5) Perhaps you've never read the comics then. Truely Cyclops went missing once during the Twelve Saga, but he has never died. He is the core of that team and to kill him IN THE PHOENIX SAGA is a slap in the face to the comics entirely

You people need to stop acting all high and mighty to the fans here who hated this film, now you attempt to turn that "it's like the comic" logic on us, and in doing so only prove how little you know about X-Men.
 
I have come not to too harshing compare the movie and comics. If I did then I would hate all 3 of the films.

Saying that, I thought this adaptation was fun.
 
I'm a fan of the comics and knowing that X3 deviated the most of the three, as well as completely botched some storylines, was a let down.
 
i didnt like x3 not because it wasnt faithfull to the comics, its a movie adaptation i dosnt have to be just because they did this or did that dosnt mean the the comics are going to do the same thing if you like the books read the books if you like the movies watch the movies, but because as a trilogy it has to be faithfull to the first two movies and i didnt think it was
 
This has nothing to do with any comic in the Xmen line. Its a mess. The fact its making lots of money is no surprise because its still a decent action movie. Comic movie it sucks donkey balls.
 
The only thing X3 adapted from the X-men comics were the powers of the characters. That's it.

Anyway, people need to stop saying X3 was faithful to the comics. That's the dumbest crap I've heard in a while, and the same thing happens all the time - people who actually know the X-comics point out the glaring gaps of logic in their arguments which just shows how little these pretenders know about the comics.

Stop making X3 into what it is not. An entertaining, action flick, nothing else.
 
D-scythe said:
The only thing X3 adapted from the X-men comics were the powers of the characters. That's it.

Anyway, people need to stop saying X3 was faithful to the comics. That's the dumbest crap I've heard in a while, and the same thing happens all the time - people who actually know the X-comics point out the glaring gaps of logic in their arguments which just shows how little these pretenders know about the comics.

Stop making X3 into what it is not. An entertaining, action flick, nothing else.
It did not even do that for most of the cameos though:confused: Since when does Callisto have super speed, Psylocke blend into things, and Juggernaut not have class 100 strength.
 
If you read the comics you should have been offended on every level to see Jean kill Cyclops and then Wolverine be team leader and barking orders and being the one to mercy kill Jean. Any comic reader should see that as a kick in the balls.

Nevermind Rogue taking the cure, Magneto losing his humanity, Pheonex as a subplot to Magneto and not really doing anything, Storm acting like Jean is pure evil with no regret at losing a friend, and .....etc, etc.

You get the picture.
 
Callisto had more of a super sprint in the movies not in the comics. in the comics she had Superhuman senses like sight (including night vision), hearing, smell, taste, and touch.
 
How about Magneto running like a *****. That was not him. It was sad.
 
DACrowe said:
If you read the comics you should have been offended on every level to see Jean kill Cyclops and then Wolverine be team leader and barking orders and being the one to mercy kill Jean. Any comic reader should see that as a kick in the balls.

Nevermind Rogue taking the cure, Magneto losing his humanity, Pheonex as a subplot to Magneto and not really doing anything, Storm acting like Jean is pure evil with no regret at losing a friend, and .....etc, etc.

You get the picture.


wolverine being all go team was crap but i could see him mercy killing jean
 
godlike13 said:
wolverine being all go team was crap but i could see him mercy killing jean


He did it to Magneto in one issue I had. It pissed me off so much I tossed it.
 
I would say Juggernaut should have been alot tougher at certain points and he would not have gotten KO'd in that room at the end (since his power is from the gem, not mutant).

He did have a couple of cool moments, though, that seemed proper.

And Wolverine would never have made it to Phoenix at the end like he did. Too much power for him.

That said, the movie was awesome, great special effects and fights. Great story too and some surprises.
 
You guys are way too critical in my opinion. It was a good movie to the masses, if you want a movie as true to the comics as you guys preach it should be, then you should produce one.
 
i have been a fan of the comic series for years, but this movie, what it did to the characters, did absolutely nothing for me.
 
greggumz said:
You guys are way too critical in my opinion. It was a good movie to the masses, if you want a movie as true to the comics as you guys preach it should be, then you should produce one.

I will if you finance.:doom:
 
ShadowBoxing said:
1) Comics are not darker with more death. Thats not what they are, thats the cliche'd crap writers like Bendis have turned them into. Comics are about characters not stupid deaths and ressaurections, in fact most fans would change that about comics if they could.

2) Finer edges, of what exactly. No story, no reason on how or why characters were in scenes. No motivation. The Phoenix was just some goon. Leech, Angel, Colossus, Kitty, Iceman...virtually every not named Wolverine, Storm or Magneto, were non characters who could have been interchanged with DC characters for all intents and purposes.

3) The original comics. Which ones. Stan Lee's weren't overcrowded with mutants. Claremonts focused more on character development than action, and Cyclops was typically the main show. Jim Lee and Fabians had more action but also took on a very soap opera feel and did many memorable issues and brought a family dynamic to the team, making them like a dysfunctional extended family. Whedon's are heavily dialogue driven. Yes they HAVE action, but the comic of X-Men has and always is a character driven one, not a powersfest. And not Halle and Hugh + cameos. X-Men is an Ensemble

4) I have every issue since the Phoenix Saga of Uncanny, try again.

5) Perhaps you've never read the comics then. Truely Cyclops went missing once during the Twelve Saga, but he has never died. He is the core of that team and to kill him IN THE PHOENIX SAGA is a slap in the face to the comics entirely

You people need to stop acting all high and mighty to the fans here who hated this film, now you attempt to turn that "it's like the comic" logic on us, and in doing so only prove how little you know about X-Men.
1) I don't mean that the comics are about death more than characters idiot I mean that there is death in the comic books, and people come back to life. I like how you've turned my words around on me.

2) There was a story and by finer edges I mean as a movie director, not as a freaking x-men fan. Little things like how it went from day to suddenly night in one scene of the movie. Once again you've turned my words around into what you thought I was saying. The story was there, I guess you just can't stand that it wasn't taken directly from the pages of the X-Men comics, I guess they overstepped their boundries by trying to come up with something new for the X-Men to go through.

3) Once again when I said orginal comics, i mean that they have a darker side than the movies have had. Every now and then people get hurt and people die. I mean look at the comics, they have dark stories in them, look at when wolverine gets his metal pulled out of him. Are you saying that you don't consider those type of comics darker than the movies have been? Or I guess you just wanted the movies to stay all happy and no one gets hurt in the end, everyone is hunky doory.

4)I guess you win this one, you obviously collect way more comics than me. Congratulations.... Something you should be very proud of. Sometimes I wish I hadn't quit collecting in middle school.....

5) Anyway good movie overall, I like how you twisted my words around. Sorry I couldn't point out the exact time Scott went missing for 7 days 3 hours and 35 minutes like you could. I like how you agreed with me on this one, but had to have the last word by saying you were betrayed because pheonix could have killed Scott. He's not dead, obviously, if you havn't picked up on it, they've been doing the "they died, no wait their alive" since the end of X2, when Jean supposably died.

P.S. Whose acting high and mighty again??? Oh and you remind me of the Comic Book guy from The Simpsons, haha I just wish I could hear your voice saying all of this in a pissed off tone.
 
greggumz said:
1) I don't mean that the comics are about death more than characters idiot I mean that there is death in the comic books, and people come back to life. I like how you've turned my words around on me.

2) There was a story and by finer edges I mean as a movie director, not as a freaking x-men fan. Little things like how it went from day to suddenly night in one scene of the movie. Once again you've turned my words around into what you thought I was saying. The story was there, I guess you just can't stand that it wasn't taken directly from the pages of the X-Men comics, I guess they overstepped their boundries by trying to come up with something new for the X-Men to go through.

3) Once again when I said orginal comics, i mean that they have a darker side than the movies have had. Every now and then people get hurt and people die. I mean look at the comics, they have dark stories in them, look at when wolverine gets his metal pulled out of him. Are you saying that you don't consider those type of comics darker than the movies have been? Or I guess you just wanted the movies to stay all happy and no one gets hurt in the end, everyone is hunky doory.

4)I guess you win this one, you obviously collect way more comics than me. Congratulations.... Something you should be very proud of. Sometimes I wish I hadn't quit collecting in middle school.....
5) Anyway good movie overall, I like how you twisted my words around. Sorry I couldn't point out the exact time Scott went missing for 7 days 3 hours and 35 minutes like you could. I like how you agreed with me on this one, but had to have the last word by saying you were betrayed because pheonix could have killed Scott. He's not dead, obviously, if you havn't picked up on it, they've been doing the "they died, no wait their alive" since the end of X2, when Jean supposably died.

P.S. Whose acting high and mighty again??? Oh and you remind me of the Comic Book guy from The Simpsons, haha I just wish I could hear your voice saying all of this in a pissed off tone.

My list.

1) this movie sucks.

BTW was that a diss?
 
greggumz said:
You guys are way too critical in my opinion. It was a good movie to the masses, if you want a movie as true to the comics as you guys preach it should be, then you should produce one.

We're not the ones claiming X3 was truer to the comics than X1, X2, and other comic book movies. That was you. At least X1 and X2 had Logan, their bread and butter, pretty much nailed. In X3, he was Scott Summers with adamentium claws.

We're not critical, we just don't make the movie out into something it's not. That's you.
 
Ive been reading X-Men since I was 5. I can tell you that this movie was not faithful to the comics in anyway, but th other 2 werent either when you get down to it. This movie had loads of potential but it just feel really short. Did I find it entertaining? Yes. Was it X-Men? For the most part. I think we need to learn not to expect a direct translation of a comic book direct on screen because most movies havent been really faithful to the source in the first place (except Sin City). So the argument of "Oh but it didnt happen like tht in the comics, or he wasnt like that in the comics." for the most part is useless. Even Spider-Man isnt anywhere near as close to his comic book counterpart. That said, this movie was very average, and its really a shame, heres hoping to a DC of some sort/
 
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