BvS Gal Gadot IS Wonder Woman! - - - - - Part 17

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[TheNextNolan22]

 

[scifiwolf]

Digital airbrush much?

 

[Boom]

It's his vision of the mythos. It's no more unreasonable than Nolan having his respective vision of Batman, or the Adam West era, or the hundreds upon hundreds of different interpretations of these characters that have sprung up over the course of many decades. Or are we to expect Snyder to cram 75+ years of history into a handful of films?

If it's not your cup of tea, don't watch it. Simple.

 

[Boom]

Well...how else do you explain all the other actresses better qualified to play her not getting the part?

I really don't see what she brings to the role that's so unique. And probably won't until I see her play the part if it's even there. We know there are better actresses for sure and a myriad of women who resemble WW facially and physically on their worst day of the week better than Gal Gadot does. Gadot looks like extra number 6. A Wonder Woman she is not.

From what I've seen, most of the people that like her are the ones that always want to play devil's advocate with whatever the studio's doing all the time. They keep telling themselves she's something great and the end all, be all "perfect" casting, when they have no evidence to support that, when in fact, the only evidence there is is to the contrary.

But until I see a pic and some footage that illustrates otherwise, I'm not likely to change my mind about Gadot.

What evidence is there that Gadot is going to be terrible as Wonder Woman? Have we seen the dailies? Are there trailers out that I'm not aware of? Clips?

People love to fall back on her past work as if it's some definitive proof that she is going to be mediocre in this movie, despite it having absolutely no connection with any of those other films. It's this same lazy mentality that has many people eating crow over the likes of Channing Tatum, who could very well earn an Oscar nomination come January.

Actors grow with experience and diversity in who they collaborate with.

Sure, she's not exactly stand-out in the Fast and Furious films. Frankly, I don't see what was really there that could have been so improved upon by any other actress. Her role literally called for her to act tough and look pretty. Not much to work with. You tend to get mediocre performances out of mediocre roles. They pretty much go hand in hand. Look through any actor's filmography and you're bound to find an example or two of garbage.

She's working with a different director, a different script, and a different character (a very popular female icon, no less). The situation she finds herself in couldn't be further removed from the Furious films, so falling back on those films as "proof" that she is going to suck here demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the word "proof."

And Snyder is hardly the only one "cheap" enough to hire her onto his film. She's got two additional roles coming up, one of which in a John Hillcoat film (since he is world-renowned for choosing garbage actors).

I don't know why people are so quick to jump to over-dramatic conclusions, but they deserve the misery they put themselves through. That's the price of ignorance. The rest of us, meanwhile, will remain optimistic/skeptical and patiently wait to see what Gadot can do, and build our opinion off that. Turns out it's much better for your state of mind. And blood pressure.

 

[Blackbat]

I don't see her as WW at all, not physically in the body or in the face. I really believe WB cast her because she was cheap and available, and cast Eisenberg because he's the closest they could get to someone famous for the part who wasn't busy and would sign. They couldn't get anyone else so they got him. Now they're just hoping it will work. None of these people are the best for the part, clearly, or have any attributes that suit the part.

If there is anything going for Gal then it is the face, there are some shots of her face scream Wonder Woman.

believe me I'm on the very worry side but this face

is Wondie's


sure I want her to be more fit and I want to see her acting as well in a good movie (F&F don't count), I'm not going to judge her till I see a new movie for her or at least a trailer.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Well her next movie scheduled to hit theaters is a John Hillcoat movie with includes an INSANE cast. Can't wait for it personally.

 

[Verick808]

Gal resembles Wonder Woman enough. Honestly its not like every artist draws her face th he exact same way every time. Even this whole arguement about her build is ridiculous. Plenyt of artist draw her fairly lean. As for her acting... I dont know but its not like Wonder Woman is Ophelia or Lady Macbeth.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

If there is anything going for Gal then it is the face, there are some shots of her face scream Wonder Woman.

believe me I'm on the very worry side but this face

is Wondie's


sure I want her to be more fit and I want to see her acting as well in a good movie (F&F don't count), I'm not going to judge her till I see a new movie for her or at least a trailer.

THIS. A lot of people were afraid that Chris Evans would be cheesy, based on a lot of his movies, and he did great. Let's give Gal a chance to break out, in a more serious movie (the Hillcoat one) and judge her acting ability on that.

But in terms of visuals, I think not only think here face looks the part, the picture similarities below are uncanny. Almost as if the artist based his appearance on Gal's likeness (note..this is the JL Doom DVD art).

 

[K.Cruz]

Well...how else do you explain all the other actresses better qualified to play her not getting the part?

I really don't see what she brings to the role that's so unique. And probably won't until I see her play the part if it's even there. We know there are better actresses for sure and a myriad of women who resemble WW facially and physically on their worst day of the week better than Gal Gadot does. Gadot looks like extra number 6. A Wonder Woman she is not.

From what I've seen, most of the people that like her are the ones that always want to play devil's advocate with whatever the studio's doing all the time. They keep telling themselves she's something great and the end all, be all "perfect" casting, when they have no evidence to support that, when in fact, the only evidence there is is to the contrary.

But until I see a pic and some footage that illustrates otherwise, I'm not likely to change my mind about Gadot.

To say that she looks like extra number 6 implies that she's very homely and plain. That is absolutely not true.

 

[Nicky]

Snyder may say that the fans can piss and moan because they don't know his script and his cast fits perfectly to that....but his script may not fit perfectly to the characters we know and love (MOS ), and that, to me, is the problem. The characters are bigger than his "vision" or "misinterpretation" rather.

This. I have no doubt that Gal Gadot suits his "vision" but it's his "vision" that I'm worried about.

 

[John-An]

Snyder may say that the fans can piss and moan because they don't know his script and his cast fits perfectly to that....but his script may not fit perfectly to the characters we know and love (MOS ), and that, to me, is the problem. The characters are bigger than his "vision" or "misinterpretation" rather.

Yeah... well... for some misinterpretation is not doing what they want, in other words having a copy from the Donner Films or the omnipresent god that has no feelings, 24 hours savior and of course they call that the "Source" which is absourdly FALSE!! CAUSE THE TRUE SOURCE are the comics.
For some they want this and where we have a RELATABLE character respecting HIS TRUE ESSENCE with a correct surrounding by his supporting characters, well that really HURTS on some. cause they can't accept that those movies are not the source neither some traits will fit in this new era.

BTW Hi there Kevin Smith (papa spank) I recommend you to not being so repetitive with your "complains" those became boring...

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

This. I have no doubt that Gal Gadot suits his "vision" but it's his "vision" that I'm worried about.

I feel like Snyder will either botch WW, or knock her out of the park. As soon as I see the costume, my excitement will either peak or wane. More or less same with BatFleck and Eisenberg, though they are more professional actors.

 

[John-An]

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Well...how else do you explain all the other actresses better qualified to play her not getting the part?

I really don't see what she brings to the role that's so unique. And probably won't until I see her play the part if it's even there. We know there are better actresses for sure and a myriad of women who resemble WW facially and physically on their worst day of the week better than Gal Gadot does. Gadot looks like extra number 6. A Wonder Woman she is not.

From what I've seen, most of the people that like her are the ones that always want to play devil's advocate with whatever the studio's doing all the time. They keep telling themselves she's something great and the end all, be all "perfect" casting, when they have no evidence to support that, when in fact, the only evidence there is is to the contrary.

But until I see a pic and some footage that illustrates otherwise, I'm not likely to change my mind about Gadot.

All I have is an open mind, and I have said so many times. She does have a limited resume. That in and of itself is not a problem though, really.

Oh, and Bluntman... How's that multi part Flash movie screen play coming along? You pick up where Kevin Smith left off on it, or what?

 

[Dark Raven]

Well...how else do you explain all the other actresses better qualified to play her not getting the part?

I really don't see what she brings to the role that's so unique. And probably won't until I see her play the part if it's even there. We know there are better actresses for sure and a myriad of women who resemble WW facially and physically on their worst day of the week better than Gal Gadot does. Gadot looks like extra number 6. A Wonder Woman she is not.

From what I've seen, most of the people that like her are the ones that always want to play devil's advocate with whatever the studio's doing all the time. They keep telling themselves she's something great and the end all, be all "perfect" casting, when they have no evidence to support that, when in fact, the only evidence there is is to the contrary.

But until I see a pic and some footage that illustrates otherwise, I'm not likely to change my mind about Gadot.

Well you can change your username but you're not likely to change your mind.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

What if KevinBluntman is John Campea in disguise? Read Bluntman's posts in Campea's voice and tell me it isn't implausible.

 

[anonomissx]

What if KevinBluntman is John Campea in disguise? Read Bluntman's posts in Campea's voice and tell me it isn't implausible.

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I was starting to wonder that. If you are John Campea, then Bluntman, SHAME on you for being so evil to an innocent person.

If you are Kevin, then I am very disappointed in you. Unless you were banned, have the integrity to always be the same self you present to the world, don't hide behind a new name.

If you are just another internet disgruntled person, then, well, keep watching, you just might be delighted at the WONDERFUL WW we will get out of this Gal t:

 

[Kelly]

He's banned move on with the discussion...

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Campea always says that he will give Gadot a chance when he watches the movie. But we all know he's a liar. Critically, Hathaway's performance as Catwoman was nearly universally acclaimed. Just quick googling have "best Catwoman ever" near the top of the list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDbH_SQfyFU

Yet he throws a fit at the concept of ANYONE liking her performance in a role that was generally considered one of the better parts of the movie. And I personally thought it was alright, but I'm happy that many people responded well to it. It was fun to watch, after all.

So, if he tries to do an interview, asking hardball questions designed to throw her off I hope she tells him to **** himself. It'd be WONDERFULLY satisfying. But she won't..because she's only shown a fundamental goodness to other people (in public, anyway)

So going back, I do believe JC/Kevin Smith impersonator (odds are his next account will reference that dude)are one in the same.
They support the same people, they complain about the same thing..they use the same speech patterns.

But the question is why? Campea's not just a p***, he's a COWARD. He wants us to be reminded of the other industry fanboy extreme/shill, while hoping we focus on his posts because of the notoriety of the REAL KS.

Such is indicative of narcissism and desperation.

At first, it's easy to say that Campea should be forgotten about.
But I find him to be a strong symbol of psychotic evil based on trivial fanboy obsessions.

He's okay with Affleck after Bale-because of the muscles. He hates Gadot and Eisenberg, especially the former, because they look differently in terms of body type and mass than the comics (which aren't always realistic, and have always been different depending on the artist)

Schnepp isn't perfect (sometimes he flip flops on opinions) but should definitely replace JC for AMCTalk. He's rational, has a strong comic knowledgebase and is mostly fair.

It's only another amount of time before the jerk starts another account, says the same junk, and gets banned.

Now having said all this..let's not post another JC video after this post. Until the Gadot interview, that is

 

[regwec]

Thanks Kelly

Question to those who have persevered with WW comics post-New 52: if I am going to read one storyline, which should it be?

Edit: I might save that post for another time, Coco.

 

[Snow Queen]

Thanks Kelly

Question to those who have persevered with WW comics post-New 52: if I am going to read one storyline, which should it be?

Edit: I might save that post for another time, Coco.

I only have up to around volume 3 in single issues, but from what I've read about the following volumes as well, it's still the same storyline started in issue 1, so I guess there's only one option.

Apologies if I misread the question and I'm not realizing it, it's getting a bit late for me.

 

[regwec]

Runs are usually somewhat episodic, though, unless you get that rarest and most welcome of things, a self contained story in one issue.

 

[Snow Queen]

Runs are usually somewhat episodic, though, unless you get that rarest and most welcome of things, a self contained story in one issue.

Going off what I have and the summaries I've read of what I don't, you'd need to start from the beginning. Unlike, say, Batman where you have stories that take up somewhere from a few months to a year usually (Court of Owls, Death of the Family, Zero Year and then there were those two or three one off issues), Wonder Woman still seems to be telling the story that started in issue 1.