BvS Gal Gadot IS Wonder Woman! - Part 6

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[Marvin]

I think I am going to get off the internet and rethink my choices in life. We are arguing about someone's 'scoop' that got called out and revealed to be BS as if its a done thing.

No different than discussion on someone's idea.

If you view it that way, there is less raging involved.

 

[roach]

No different than discussion someone's idea.

If you view it that way, there is less raging involved.

The difference is we are saying what we think...these rumor mongers are trying to put their opinions out there as fact.

 

[Wise]

You do realize they were changed to fit the tone of the movie? Never ceases to blow my mind when people expect a cinematic comic book, and fail to understand that their story had a tone and idea behind it.

Yeah because nobody would want that. I hate that WB feels they need to add hyper realism to these characters in order for audiences to accept them.

 

[Marvin]

It's not always for the audience acceptance. Sometimes it's a matter of presenting something new, or presenting the mythology in a different way. I'd argue the change in bond after all these decades isn't for audience acceptance but rather a creative effort in the vain of freshness.

The difference is we are saying what we think...these rumor mongers are trying to put their opinions out there as fact.

Still, too much overreaction to this stuff imo.

You would think these threads were about senate policy and such.

 

[John-An]

according of what elmayimbe said...

 

[jaymes_e06]

That's not bad actually except the headpiece looks uncomfortable and unwearable and.... spikes?

 

[InJustice]

It's too one piece for my taste, I'd rather armor be designed closer to this:

(not my manip, just did a simple google search, and yes...I know it's Hippolyta,but imagine that for Wonder Woman in her own colours).

 

[Wise]

That's not bad actually except the headpiece looks uncomfortable and unwearable and.... spikes?

To be fair that's the evil Wonder Woman.

 

[LaughingMage]

I don't agree with your ranking of 'listers' in these films. Red Skull and Joker are A list. I've never heard of Ironmonger or this dark elf before the movies(casual marvel fan).

Joker, Two-face and Catwoman are A-list. As are Penguin and the Riddler. Batman's most iconic rogues make the A-list I'd say.

B-list starts with Scarecrow, R'as, Talia, Freeze, Bane, Mad Hatter and maybe Poison Ivy. C-list I'd say are Killer Croc, Man Bat, Clayface and then things plunge down heavily.

Iron Monger is an Iron Man A-Lister, right behind the Mandarin and Whiplash. Hammer is a B-lister just like Unicorn and the Ghost and what have you.

Thor A-listers are Surtur Loki, Enchantress, Karnilla and Hela. B-Listers are Malekith, The Executioner, Kurse and Lorelei. C-Listers are the Wrecking Crew, the Enchanters and so on.

Wondy doesn't need all "Alist villains", just well written ones. Then we have the issue of the "Frost Giants" magical creatures in the comics right? No reason why gods can't be similar.

And Asgard and Krypton are as different as night and day. No were in MOS is it established that Kryptonian science even reaches what Thor called "...the same as magic" in the movie. And if it did, it would suck as much as WW being Kryptonian. Kryptonians weren't supposed to be Gods and should not display a powerlevel or "advanced technology" of that kind. Because then, them being destroyed would make even less sense than it does now.

20k years of civilazation and evolution and birthing chambers can yield a number of things.

Like a woman that can change men into animals? Sorry bit cloning and evolution don't give you a free pass to add every kind of haire brained superpower to a character you like.

If it works in Troy, it could work in the Odyssey. Creative writing can solve all those problems ... Pertaining to your idea of how the Odyssey needs to go down, the Cyclops doesn't need to involve a giant guy with a birth defect, how's a tall man with one eye.

Lamest... Odyssey... ever. i'd at least go with the birth defect.

Curious, but do you classify "mxyplyzyk" is magic? That thunderbolt on jsa as well, what are your thoughts?

Jupp, I'd say they are magic. I'm not opposed to this whole "magic is just really really really advanced science" talk. I'm opposed to WW being a Kryptonian descendant, especially when Krypton was not depicted as that really really really advanced.

 

[The Question]

according of what elmayimbe said...

Good God I hope not. Armoring everything but her enormous cleavage? Really?

 

[John-An]

It's too one piece for my taste, I'd rather armor be designed closer to this:

(not my manip, just did a simple google search, and yes...I know it's Hippolyta,but imagine that for Wonder Woman in her own colours).

No offense but I like the other one by far. maybe without the spikes and with a modification of the helmet/putting the tiara. the suit looks awesome

 

[roach]

according of what elmayimbe said...

oh god no

 

[John-An]

oh god no

with some modifications this would be pretty awesome. why not?

 

[InJustice]

No offense but I like the other one by far. maybe without the spikes and with a modification of the helmet/putting the tiara. the suit looks awesome

The problems are a lot more than simply spikes and helmet. The whole artwork is basically segmented armor pieces which I think makes no sense for Wonder Woman's design. It screams too much "sex" and not enough "badass."

Furthermore, the one piece red jumpsuit with the gold segments looks horrible without the classic blue something to balance it out (a battle skirt would be nice).

 

[John-An]

The problems are a lot more than simply spikes and helmet. The whole artwork is basically segmented armor pieces which I think makes no sense for Wonder Woman's design. It screams too much "sex" and not enough "badass."

Furthermore, the one piece red jumpsuit with the gold segments looks horrible without the classic blue something to balance it out (a battle skirt would be nice).

Don't agree. if you take out the heels, the piercing, and the spikes, adding the tiara or modifing the helmet.
Actually it has blue but darker at the back of the suit.
I see this more discreet than the classic Wonder Woman suit where almost all Wondy's body is without cover.
And IMO with the ideal modifications this will scream badass as any other.

 

[Marvin]

Hoping for something like the War design but with the single cloth from flash point.

 

[jaymes_e06]

i still think that's awesome but it needs pants though.

 

[Wise]

i still think that's awesome but it needs pants though.

I agree it's awesome. But I disagree about the pants.

 

[Masone]

Hoping for something like the War design but with the single cloth from flash point.

I just love that costume.

i still think that's awesome but it needs pants though.

Agreed.

 

[Marvin]

Joker, Two-face and Catwoman are A-list. As are Penguin and the Riddler. Batman's most iconic rogues make the A-list I'd say.

I rank by universe and general audience awareness, you seemingly rank by how relevant they are within said characters world. For example wolverine has a bunch of wolverine relevant villains, very few of which I consider A list villains. The more relevant the hero... We'll disagree about the listers.

And Asgard and Krypton are as different as night and day. No were in MOS is it established that Kryptonian science even reaches what Thor called "...the same as magic" in the movie. And if it did, it would suck as much as WW being Kryptonian. Kryptonians weren't supposed to be Gods and should not display a powerlevel or "advanced technology" of that kind. Because then, them being destroyed would make even less sense than it does now.

Never said Kryptonian science needs to be magical or super advanced.
I said that you can have non terrestrials, such as new gods or something similar however, be at that level! You can have creatures from parallel dimensions such as mxyplyzyk(in canon) be at that level.

Like a woman that can change men into animals? Sorry bit cloning and evolution don't give you a free pass to add every kind of haire brained superpower to a character you like.

Hair brained super power? I simply suggested this Cheeta lady can derive from all sorts of grounded meta equivalents in pop culture even, especially given the dna based birthing chambers and sheer amount of time at play. I would go so far as accepting a cheetah's dna falls into a birthing pod by accident (Cronenberg style). I don't need super science/magic to explain manbat or the various gene spliced shape changers in spiderman. Same deal here. Is all that much lost if she isn't some divine enchantment of a villain?

Lamest... Odyssey... ever. i'd at least go with the birth defect.

A giant man with a missing eye, would be how Wolfgang could do it was my point to answer your question. Very simple

I think the scifi magic in this movie would suffice imo

you don't need raw greek mytholgy as is to pull off/do justice to wondy's fantasy element. but that's me.
I can see the costume being some variant on this btw

 

[John-An]

something like this could be great too..

 

[MrsKent26]

It's too one piece for my taste, I'd rather armor be designed closer to this:

(not my manip, just did a simple google search, and yes...I know it's Hippolyta,but imagine that for Wonder Woman in her own colours).

I like this one. It could be good with WW colors.

 

[InJustice]

Don't agree. if you take out the heels, the piercing, and the spikes, adding the tiara or modifing the helmet.
Actually it has blue but darker at the back of the suit.
I see this more discreet than the classic Wonder Woman suit where almost all Wondy's body is without cover.
And IMO with the ideal modifications this will scream badass as any other.

No, those are simple things that do nothing to improve the costume. The fundamental problems are still there, with the segmenting of the armor and the terrible colour combination. As for the blue, that's not blue, that's almost gray at the back of the costume.

And I disagree, it doesn't look discreet at all, it still looks like a one piece costume and the breasts are still exposed. That to me emphasizes sex appeal than practicality. I'd want more practicality in the sense that armor is put around vital areas (let's be serious, vulnerable or invulnerable, who fights with their cleavage exposed?). Wonder Woman is a part warrior after all...and she should look that way, not a lingerie model.