Game of Thrones - Book Readers' Thread - - - Part 20

[Roose Bolton]

Have you been biting your fingers again Reek?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Why do you need proof in the finale? You and the rest of us already know he survives.

I already knew Cat survived as well, and that Stannis didn't burn his daughter. Or that Selmy was still alive.

 

[Reek]

Have you been biting your fingers again Reek?

No... No m'lord.. i just walk is all...

 

[Roose Bolton]

No... No m'lord.. i just walk is all...

Better. To sound a proper peasant you must say it as though you had mud in your mouth, or were too stupid to realise it was two words, not just one. Your stench is quite appalling.

 

[Reek]

Yes, m'lord. forgive me. Lord Ramsay prefers me this way.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I knew the first Reek. He stank, though not for want of washing. I have never known a cleaner creature, truth be told. He bathed thrice a day and wore flowers in his hair as if he were a maiden. Once, when my second wife was still alive, he was caught stealing scent from her bedchamber. I had him whipped for that, a dozen lashes. Even his blood smelled wrong. The next year he tried it again. This time he drank the perfume and almost died of it.

 

[dude stannis]

I don't care who does it, I just want proof that Jon survives. They have done too many stupid things this season for me to trust them fully in this regard.

[BLACKOUT]Kit Harrington is signed on until Season 7.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Plenty of people have been signed on for multiple seasons. Doesn't mean they will appear. People do realize this right?

 

[Marvolo]

I already knew Cat survived as well, and that Stannis didn't burn his daughter. Or that Selmy was still alive.

None of those things are the same as killing the single central character that the Wall plot revolves around. None of the characters you mentioned were anywhere near as central to the plot as Jon. So you're being silly if you think D&D would even consider killing Jon permanently in season 5. He has about as much chance of being permanently killed in the finale as Dany does.


About all those people mentioned, Cat didn't survive in the books. Selmy likely dies in WOW, and Stannis may yet burn his daughter. Martin told D&D she is burned and D&D said the information was shocking so Stannis could be involved despite wanting to put her on the throne in ADWD. There are still two books to go, after all.

 

[Roose Bolton]

It's standard for most cable shows, and especially HBO, for all the key cast to sign on for 6-7 seasons. Ultimately it comes down to the showrunners and HBO if they want to utilize the actors for the extent.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

None of those things are the same as killing the single central character that the Wall plot revolves around. None of the characters you mentioned were anywhere near as central to the plot as Jon. So you're being silly if you think D&D would even consider killing Jon permanently in season 5. He has about as much chance of being permanently killed in the finale as Dany does.


About all those people mentioned, Cat didn't survive in the books. Selmy likely dies in WOW, and Stannis may yet burn his daughter. Martin told D&D she is burned and D&D said the information was shocking Stannis could be involved despite wanting to put her on the throne in ADWD. There are still two books to go, after all.

How exactly is Stannis going to burn her in the books? They are no where near each other.

I think she will burn, but Stannis won't do it.

 

[dude stannis]

Plenty of people have been signed on for multiple seasons. Doesn't mean they will appear. People do realize this right?

Considering who the publicised actors that signed onto Season 7 where originally contracted for 6 seasons. It's every obvious all of them are the ones who will be around for the end game.

 

[Marvolo]

How exactly is Stannis going to burn her in the books? They are no where near each other.

I think she will burn, but Stannis won't do it.

And that can change at anytime. He can always end up back at the Wall. Hell for all you know he could send a raven telling Mel he needs R'hllor's help and orders her to be burnt out of desperation.

 

[Roose Bolton]

None of those things are the same as killing the single central character that the Wall plot revolves around. None of the characters you mentioned were anywhere near as central to the plot as Jon. So you're being silly if you think D&D would even consider killing Jon permanently in season 5. He has about as much chance of being permanently killed in the finale as Dany does.


About all those people mentioned, Cat didn't survive in the books. Selmy likely dies in WOW, and Stannis may yet burn his daughter. Martin told D&D she is burned and D&D said the information was shocking so Stannis could be involved despite wanting to put her on the throne in ADWD. There are still two books to go, after all.

Martin also told Ian Mcelhinney that his role in the books was going to become a central one in the later installments, which was he was so upset when he found that they were killing him this season. He wrote them a letter and everything expressing how he felt it went against what George was doing, and why he ultimately said that people shouldn't read the books when watching the show. GRRM also recently said that people shouldn't expect the Night's King to appear in the books, and implied that what D&D are doing is akin to Peter Jackson using Azog as the physical antagonist for Hobbit films.

"Da books are Da books, and Da Show is the Show" as old Georgey would say.

 

[dude stannis]

And that can change at anytime.

He'll have his hands on someone else with King's blood currently.

I'm guessing Melissandre sees the pink letter and burns Shireen to bring back Stannis, but it ultimately has some kind of affect on Jon.

 

[Marvolo]

Martin also told Ian Mcelhinney that his role in the books was going to become a central one in the later installments, which was he was so upset when he found that they were killing him this season. He wrote them a letter and everything expressing how he felt it went against what George was doing, and why he ultimately said that people shouldn't read the books when watching the show. GRRM also recently said that people shouldn't expect the Night's King to appear in the books, and implied that what D&D are doing is akin to Peter Jackson using Azog as the physical antagonist for Hobbit films.

"Da books are Da books, and Da Show is the Show" as old Georgey would say.

Oh I'm fully aware of all that.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I will say this though, the cast listings for season 5 featured Varamyr Six-Skins. So nows as good a time as any for that Warg element to be utilized.

 

[Marvolo]

I will say this though, the cast listings for season 5 featured Varamyr Six-Skins. So nows as good a time as any for that Warg element to be utilized.

I'm not sure Jon will warg in the finale, but I can see Varamyr being used to plant the idea of Jon warging into Ghost in Jon's and the viewer's heads. That way the viewers aren't left without any hope at all.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think Jon coming back will mirror when Bran woke up in the second episode. The scene might even involve Bran.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I actually wouldn't mind if they have Bran/Bloodraven/The Children be the ones to resurrect his body in the show. At the same time, Bloodraven could possibly show him his origin.

 

[Marvolo]

I think Jon coming back will mirror when Bran woke up in the second episode. The scene might even involve Bran.

I actually wouldn't mind if they have Bran/Bloodraven/The Children be the ones to resurrect his body in the show. At the same time, Bloodraven could possibly show him his origin.

I've been wondering if Bran might show up in the finale in some capacity. I wouldn't mind him being involved in the resurrection.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I agree with both of you, though because of this I think they will wait until next season to do it.

 

[dude stannis]

GRRM has made everyone wait since 2011. What's 11 months between seasons?

 

[Drz]

How exactly is Stannis going to burn her in the books? They are no where near each other.

If Stannis is ever going to burn his own daughter, it's going to be a last resort againts the Others, but i think Melisandre/Selyse will just burn Shireen as it is predicted.

GRRM also recently said that people shouldn't expect the Night's King to appear in the books, and implied that what D&D are doing is akin to Peter Jackson using Azog as the physical antagonist for Hobbit films.

"Da books are Da books, and Da Show is the Show" as old Georgey would say.

Thanks for telling! I had missed this. I hope we're going to see Bran the Builder in the books.

Here's my thoughts about how this season could end: End it with you know who dying, cut it to black with us hearing the character's breathing and give a cliffhanger ending with the breathing stopping.

Things like the Cersei's trial by combat, a certain character's warging, etc. You can do those as a Season opener!

 

[Roose Bolton]

It *could* end with Varys going on his murderous rampage, though I feel like they may need to build Kevan up a little bit more for that, possible have it as the cliffhanger for Season 6 Episode 1.