Elayis
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I can't imagine them not filming the scenes as scripted in addition to improved lines. Thats about as basic as filmmaking gets. But maybe the process was different for them coming from smaller budget comedies that they wrote themselves. Maybe they never learned that you have to get what's on the page shot first before any improve happens.
I think it's probably just the generational gap and difference in shooting styles that was the issue. I think I recall Kasdan being a stickler for keeping to the script at all costs, on any project but especially a pet/vanity project like this that's being directed by somebody else. Time not spent shooting what's in the script is time/money wasted, and Kennedy probably feels the same way.
Not sure how much improv Abrams or Johnson encourage on their films. Perhaps it's an approach to filmmaking the producers at Lucasfilm have never dealt with firsthand, especially on a big budget film.
As others have stated, the thing that has all of us scratching our heads is how they didn't see this coming and why it took so long to rectify. Lord/Miller's style is patently obvious, it's hard to imagine Kennedy and Disney didn't know what they were getting into with them when they were first hired, let alone the year or more spent in pre-production. How were they allowed to work on this film for two years, complete 3/4 of the shoot and only then told that their ideas for the film didn't mesh with the studio's? Creative differences like this are usually hashed out before production begins.
It just seems like on this film they misjudged their sensibilities meshing with the directors, which is essential on these big franchise films. Kennedy and Disney seem to have miscalculated and did not do their due diligence. Lord/Miller thought they were hired to make their own movie (like DC with Nolan, Singer, Snyder, Yates) and Kennedy thought they hired team players that would be grateful to work on a Star Wars film and stay within the guidelines that were provided. But for that to work, like it does with Marvel, you either need to hire exactly the right people who see the film the same way (like Abrams and Johnson) or get relative newcomers whove never had final cut or worked on very many Hollywood movies.
All this does it make Kennedy and Lucasfilm look incompetent and overconfident in their own success. It seems like after turning a train wreck like Rogue One into a massive hit at the box office they thought they could do no wrong. If the reports are right and Kennedy was hardly (if ever) on set and only looked at the footage recently, it's clear she's not on top of the ball (you'd think after Rogue One they'd try to avoid something like that happening again).
Hopefully from now on theyll be more careful who they hire and not just get the latest hot director. Communication is key, especially when dealing with a franchise like Star Wars with billions of dollars riding on its success.
They shouldve listened to Han
I think it's probably just the generational gap and difference in shooting styles that was the issue. I think I recall Kasdan being a stickler for keeping to the script at all costs, on any project but especially a pet/vanity project like this that's being directed by somebody else. Time not spent shooting what's in the script is time/money wasted, and Kennedy probably feels the same way.
Not sure how much improv Abrams or Johnson encourage on their films. Perhaps it's an approach to filmmaking the producers at Lucasfilm have never dealt with firsthand, especially on a big budget film.
As others have stated, the thing that has all of us scratching our heads is how they didn't see this coming and why it took so long to rectify. Lord/Miller's style is patently obvious, it's hard to imagine Kennedy and Disney didn't know what they were getting into with them when they were first hired, let alone the year or more spent in pre-production. How were they allowed to work on this film for two years, complete 3/4 of the shoot and only then told that their ideas for the film didn't mesh with the studio's? Creative differences like this are usually hashed out before production begins.
It just seems like on this film they misjudged their sensibilities meshing with the directors, which is essential on these big franchise films. Kennedy and Disney seem to have miscalculated and did not do their due diligence. Lord/Miller thought they were hired to make their own movie (like DC with Nolan, Singer, Snyder, Yates) and Kennedy thought they hired team players that would be grateful to work on a Star Wars film and stay within the guidelines that were provided. But for that to work, like it does with Marvel, you either need to hire exactly the right people who see the film the same way (like Abrams and Johnson) or get relative newcomers whove never had final cut or worked on very many Hollywood movies.
All this does it make Kennedy and Lucasfilm look incompetent and overconfident in their own success. It seems like after turning a train wreck like Rogue One into a massive hit at the box office they thought they could do no wrong. If the reports are right and Kennedy was hardly (if ever) on set and only looked at the footage recently, it's clear she's not on top of the ball (you'd think after Rogue One they'd try to avoid something like that happening again).
Hopefully from now on theyll be more careful who they hire and not just get the latest hot director. Communication is key, especially when dealing with a franchise like Star Wars with billions of dollars riding on its success.
They shouldve listened to Han
