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The Force Awakens General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation/SPOILER Thread - - Part 51

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The film has been out for over 2 weeks. I think spoilers are okay now. :dry:

If that was directed at me, the spoiler tags were only because the image is large.

Otherwise I agree, given the record breaking box office numbers, I think it's fair to assume that if you're in this thread, you've probably seen the movie by now.
 
If that was directed at me, the spoiler tags were only because the image is large.

Otherwise I agree, given the record breaking box office numbers, I think it's fair to assume that if you're in this thread, you've probably seen the movie by now.

Sorry. I thought you were hiding the Reylo fight scene. :O
 
Going back to the previous thing. Do you think the republic planet destruction was meant to be, not a PT bash but a sign to the viewers that the series will no longer focus on the rich and powerful, but only underdogs? Also (I am a fan of the PT btw and obviously they are canon) do you think there could be a clash between Disney wanting repect them to keep their PT fan customers and the specific writer/directors of the films wanting to (subtley) diss the PT?

I believe it's Kathleen kennedys job to run this franchise so I think they would make sure anyone who Writes or directs will respect the prequels as part in this franchise

If the writers or directors clash with Disney in a big way then they are likely off the project
 
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So Marx and I were seeing this for a second time over the weekend, and he saw something i hadn't seen... and wondering if he was just seeing things, or if it's even been discussed.

But he swears up and down that he saw, during Rey's send off to find Luke, in the giant group shot, a familiar furry little body... thought he saw an Ewok, in fact Wicket.

I'd have to see a freeze-frame or watch it for a 3rd time to tell.. but idk. I've not heard anyone else talk about this
 
Sounds like a good enough excuse for a fifth viewing.

(I don't think so, though. I think people would've made articles about it)
 
Going back to the previous thing. Do you think the republic planet destruction was meant to be, not a PT bash but a sign to the viewers that the series will no longer focus on the rich and powerful, but only underdogs? Also (I am a fan of the PT btw and obviously they are canon) do you think there could be a clash between Disney wanting repect them to keep their PT fan customers and the specific writer/directors of the films wanting to (subtley) diss the PT?

that had nothing to do with the PT...

the planet that exploded was the current planet (and system) of the New Republic. with the New Republic destroyed, it made the New Order the Higher Power.... but with the Starkiller Base destroyed... the rebels/resistance and the new order are now on a much more even playing field... now that both "home bases" so to speak, are destroyed.
 
Sounds like a good enough excuse for a fifth viewing.

(I don't think so, though. I think people would've made articles about it)

I would have thought so too.. but i guess someone always has to be the first to catch something...

he also didn't say if he saw the whole body.. or not.. which makes things a bit more difficult
 
Given that Disney hasn't been shy about bringing in elements from the PT/TCW into their other media (books, comics, the current TV show, etc), and even TFA has some subtle references to them, no I don't think that Disney/Lucasfilm/Kathleen Kennedy/etc to send any kind of statement. Heck it wasn't even Curoscant, it was a planet called Hosnian Prime.
 
The film has been out for over 2 weeks. I think spoilers are okay now. :dry:

In here yes...but we still have a problem with people wanting to not tag spoilers in other forums.

Please people, be considerate and put spoiler tags on things in other forums...or be even nicer and not derail other forums by talking about Star Wars where it isn't what the topic of conversation is supposed to be about anyway.
 
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Hmmm. :thf:

I like it.
 
Interesting bits of info in this:

In a recent Q&A with J.J. Abrams, Lawrence Kasdan, and Michael Arndt, the screenwriter revealed some pretty intriguing details about early drafts of ‘The Force Awakens.’ The most eye-opening is that in earlier versions of the screenplay, Luke Skywalker was a much bigger force (pun intended) in the movie.

“Early on I tried to write versions of the story where [Rey] is at home, her home is destroyed, and then she goes on the road and meets Luke. And then she goes and kicks the bad guy’s ass,” Arndt said (via EW). “It just never worked and I struggled with this. This was back in 2012.” Apparently the issue was Luke’s presence was always upstaging everyone in the script. “It just felt like every time Luke came in and entered the movie, he just took it over,” Arndt continued. “Suddenly you didn’t care about your main character anymore because, ‘Oh f–k, Luke Skywalker’s here. I want to see what he’s going to do.’”

EW also says there were other big plot ideas dropped: "a search for Darth Vader’s remains, or a quest to the underwater wreckage of the second Death Star to recover a key piece of history about sacred Jedi sites in the galaxy." These of course, totally different movies and one could argue fairly different from the remake and remix-ness of 'The Force Awakens.'

And apparently R2-D2 and C-3PO were far more linked in the movie as well. “I had originally written R2 and C-3PO showing up together, and Larry [Kasdan] very intelligently said, ‘You want to keep them separate from each other. And of course I’m like, ‘No, no, no, Larry. You don’t get it at all!’” Arndt joked.

Abrams got into the convoluted story of R2-D2. Essentially he’s in a grief-stricken kind of coma because of Luke vanishing. And the data in his system is apparently tied into ‘A New Hope,’ when he plugged into the Death Star and apparently downloaded all kinds of secrets — one of them being intel on location of Jedi Temples.

“We had the idea about R2 plugging into the information base of the Death Star, and that’s how he was able to get the full map and find where the Jedi temples are,” Arndt said. Abrams didn’t want all this backstory bogging down the plot so it was included indirectly. He didn’t want the story to devolve into, “how s–t happened 30 years ago.” But the idea was that in that scene where R2 plugged in, he downloaded the archives of the Empire, which was referenced by Kylo Ren,” Abrams explained.

So the idea is that BB-8 awakens R2-D2 from his coma by telling him about a loved one — Luke — and his potential whereabouts. “BB-8 comes up and says something to him, which is basically, ‘I’ve got this piece of a map, do you happen to have the rest?’” Abrams said. “The idea was, R2 who has been all over the galaxy, is still in his coma, but he hears this. And it triggers something that would ultimately wake him up.”


I don’t know if I totally buy that, and it sounds a bit silly — thankfully they didn’t lean hard on that in the movie — but to hear their intentions, and some of the development process, is really fascinating. I would really kill to interview Arndt, so I’ll put that out there. Thoughts? Does any of this change the experience of “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” at all?


http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayl...m_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_823474
 
I actually really wish JJ wouldn't have bothered explaining R2's awakening at the end. It was more mystical without his explanation, which the film didn't do a very good job of conveying anyway.

It's a pretty glaring deus ex machina, but I was willing to shrug it off as The Force playing its role. The delayed wakening up thing is weak, they should have built up to that more if R2 was slowly trying to turn on the whole time.
 
I didn't mind the stuff with Artoo being shut down and then his awakening. Played well enough for me.
 
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Hmmm. :thf:

I like it.


With as much as Disney/Lucasfilm are pushing Rey as a role model/hero for young girls, there's no way in hell they would ever consider that. Rey will definitely be tempted by the dark side and I believe her struggle to not succumb to it will be even greater than Luke's, but that's as far as they'll go with it. As for Kylo Ren being redeemed, now that is something I can see, though like Vader, his ultimate redemption will likely cost him his life. Having said that, it would be kinda nice to have him NOT be redeemed.
 
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/star-wars-rogue-one-2016-anticipated-movies-1201670942/

Most Anticipated Movie:

1. “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story” (December 16)

2. “Finding Dory” (June 17)

3. “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” (March 25)

4. Untitled Jason Bourne Movie (July 29)

5. “Captain America: Civil War” (May 6)

6. “Star Trek Beyond” (July 22)

7. “Independence Day: Resurgence” (June 24)

8. “X-Men: Apocalypse” (May 27)

9. “Zoolander No. 2” (February 12)

10. “The Jungle Book” (April 15)
 
I agree with their #1. Disagree with the other nine.
 
list looks pretty legit (my personal preferences aside) this is probably how i'd rank the GA

I think people are eager to see bourne return, and I think BvsS has a higher anticipation level than Civil War... which to the General Audience looks like "more of the same" and "yet another superhero vs superhero thing. So i can see why it would have less anticipation. for me personally it ranks much higher than BvsS which i feel will frustrating me and be less rewarding to me than civil war will be.
 
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I agree with their #1. Disagree with the other nine.
It is a survey by Fandango. Far from scientific but if Rogue One really is the most anticipated, that is rather impressive. Obviously Bourne shouldn't be ahead of Civil War if we are talking box office, but I could totally see Rogue One and Finding Dory being #1 and #2.
 
I think it's kind of inevitable that Rogue One's stock skyrocketed hot off the heels of the TFA explosion, but still impressive to see it no. 1 over the likes of Finding Dory, BvS and Civil War for sure.
 
It is a survey by Fandango. Far from scientific but if Rogue One really is the most anticipated, that is rather impressive. Obviously Bourne shouldn't be ahead of Civil War if we are talking box office, but I could totally see Rogue One and Finding Dory being #1 and #2.

Oh sure, I'm just comparing it to my personal list.

I'm surprised to see Bourne so high.
 
did BB-8 really wake up R2??

if it was because of BB-8, how come R2 didn't wake up when BB-8 first tried to wake him?

it was only AFTER Rey touched down on the base and hugged Leia that R2 woke up.....
 
did BB-8 really wake up R2??

if it was because of BB-8, how come R2 didn't wake up when BB-8 first tried to wake him?

it was only AFTER Rey touched down on the base and hugged Leia that R2 woke up.....

Probably just took him a bit to power up. The visual dictionary says he was "dreaming" while in low power as his "mind" organized and compartmentalized 70 years of memories.
 
Oh sure, I'm just comparing it to my personal list.

I'm surprised to see Bourne so high.
Thinking about it, it is probably a domestic only survey, which actually makes Bourne make some sense. Been a while since the last real film in the series, and it went out on a box office high. So it could do some crazy numbers domestically. It won't win any box office crowns because of formats and such, but it could do really, really big.
 
Probably just took him a bit to power up. The visual dictionary says he was "dreaming" while in low power as his "mind" organized and compartmentalized 70 years of memories.

eh. I still think it really has to do with Rey. just too much of a coincidence.
 
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