Ghost Rider Fans Should Pay Attention to AVP-R

[Midnyte_Sun]

Well I'm not sure if any of you have seen the trailers for AVP: Requiem, but it looks like a gory, bloody R-rated mess (which is absolutely AWESOME).

Check out the R-rated trailer here:

http://www.toxicshock.tv/news/2007/08/25/alien-vs-predator-2-requiem-movie-trailer/

The movie's predessessor was Aliens vs Predator, which unfortunately was directed Paul W.S. Anderson. That movie was also forced to be a nuetered PG-13 flick by the studio and Paul Anderson, being the tool that he is, made it exactly that way..and with financial success to boot.

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Now lots of you might be asking, what does Aliens vs Predator have to do with Ghost Rider? I'll I'm going to say is...both movies share the same curse..and that is they are both horrific sci-fantasy icons that were unjustly PG-13'ed by the Studios and directed horribly by men who have been known to nullify great action heroes, albeit with relative financial success. Coincidentally, both AVP and Ghost Rider have the exact same movie rating on IMDB: A dismal 5.4 out of 10

AVP got a sequel, but luckily new hungry directors, the Strausse Brothers (risky since their biggest achievements were Music Videos), have said the movie has to be rated-R and they allow the characters to roam naturally in an adult-horror-themed environment the way they were meant to be. The Strausse brother's vigilance is a trailer that personally blew me away. This is what I expected of the AVP franchise, and we are finally getting it.

Is the story going to be shallow? Ofcourse..the name itself tells the story in 3 words - ALIENS vs PREDATOR...derived from a dark and violent comic book exploring their worlds and battles. 'nuff said.

But is that okay so long as the characters are shown the way they should be? Yes.

Lets get to the bottom line: Will this movie make money? I certainly hope so because studios & directors who understand the material and how it should be portrayed deserve a nice financial boost.

Ghost Rider deserves a director who understands the material and the story and wants to portray the character in the environment he was meant to be in.

Bottomline, Ghost Rider deserves a Rated R adult themed story. A character as horrific as Ghost Rider deserves the most outrageously evil villains that don't hesitate to wear the skin of their fallen victims (ie. Skinner, Kazann, etc), and it deserves a director (or directors) who understand that a man with his face burning off is not PG-13.

If AVP-Requiem is a success, its time for Sony to rethink their silly PG-13 policy for Ghost Rider.

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

It was Cage & Johnson that wanted Ghost Rider to be PG-13 family friendly.

 

[crazy sock]

that AVP-R trailer looked awesome. my only complaint if any is that it seems to reveal too many of the human kill scenes. i know it doesnt rele matter so much n most ppl prob dont rele focus in on that while watching a trailer. but less they have a more awesome human death scenes i dunno. its like when they have all these diff trailers for comedies and show practically all the funny parts n jokes and you see the movie and that scene comes up yer like "ehh, i know its funny but ehh" i dunno. whatever. AVP looks awesome.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

AvP-R does look much better than its predecessor, plus it looks about $30 million more expensive than AVP when actually the budget is $20-25 million lower. HOWEVER, a trailer does not make a movie, AvP-R could still be a poor movie.

As of now though, it does look awesome and HUGE improvement over the first.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

that AVP-R trailer looked awesome. my only complaint if any is that it seems to reveal too many of the human kill scenes. i know it doesnt rele matter so much n most ppl prob dont rele focus in on that while watching a trailer. but less they have a more awesome human death scenes i dunno. its like when they have all these diff trailers for comedies and show practically all the funny parts n jokes and you see the movie and that scene comes up yer like "ehh, i know its funny but ehh" i dunno. whatever. AVP looks awesome.

The humans aren't that important in this movie since the two main characters are the Aliens and the Predator. From the looks of the trailer, the humans simply just 'get in the way.'

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^I hate the fact that its in small town on MODERN earth though.

 

[crazy sock]

The humans aren't that important in this movie since the two main characters are the Aliens and the Predator. From the looks of the trailer, the humans simply just 'get in the way.'

yea, i dont care about the humans character wise. what i meant was that the trailer seemed to show alot of awesome death scenes involving the humans. its like the equivalent to jokes and funny scenes in a comedy. sometimes a certain comedy has a trailer that shows too many of the jokes and by the time you see the movie you dont laugh as much yknow. whatevs. still gunnah see AVP-R regardless.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

It was Cage & Johnson that wanted Ghost Rider to be PG-13 family friendly.

Initially during the hype of this movie MSJ admitted it was he who wanted it to be PG 13, citing how Ghost Rider was never very violent and was catered to teens. Then later after the reviews he claimed it was the Studio's wish and that no matter how badly fans want it Rated R, Sony would not make it that way.

Most likely it was the Studio's wish and MSJ just went along with it because he wanted to make the movie so badly.

 

[SuperFerret]

I have a strong dislike the trailer for one reason and one reason alone: the Predators are killing humans that do not look like proper sporting kills (specifically the one with the girl and the spin-disk-thing of death). Part of what I liked in the original AvP was that the Predator was honorable, a trait they've had since Pred 1.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

I think its too early to judge the Predator's character from a trailer..but we can agree that the violence is upped substantially which makes it more 'at home' than AVP, which was marketed to early teens and kids.

Ghost Rider also has this problem, as the character is so cool...studios cant help but try to market it to so many age groups...unfortunately, when they do this, they alienate the character from its base and it just comes out very cheap and generic.