It would have been the classic case of doing something less effective, more complicated, with more screen time, just to have an extra character show up. The crew shows restraint, a rarity in films, and then people get mad for actually having the guts to do what was best for the film. I get wanting the character, but not one thing about this film indicates the Rogue stuff would have added anything other then runtime and a character.
The future narrative is simple, but extreme effective. It was on Kitty and Logan. Everyone else was irrelevant. They were depending on them, and everyone else was there to simply buy them the time they needed. It worked beautifully. Over-complicating that just to have another character reeks of fanboy logic imo.
I feel that the film doesn't miss having Rogue at all, so adding her adds nothing to the movie we don't already have. THIS is why it was cut.
I don't really think Rogue was needed in the story at all. It actually added to the tensionby having Kitty be injured.
The sequence with Rogue may have been as good as anything else in the film, but it still could have impacted the quality of the film if it interrupted the flow of the film or didn't fit (which are the reasons it was cut). I'm not sure what the "need" reason you are referring to but perhaps it has something to do with wanting to create a tight narrative with no extraneous subplots. Kinberg himself referred to Rogue as the "MacGuffin" in that sequence (essentially meaning that he considered her to be of no importance to the plot).
I disagree. I felt that Kitty being injured also felt forced.
It's funny Singer and Kinberg also called JLaw a MacGuffin.
I mentioned this in another thread but now that the thought has me, I am very remiss that it did not play out this way.
After Magneto gets stabbed, Rogue takes his powers and goes to buy them time while he dies inside and we see Magnetic Rogue fighting Sentinels to the death with Blink and co.
I was fine with cutting Paquin, but now that I put two minutes of logic to it, they missed a golden opportunity to redeem her like they did everyone else in X3. If she could have had her hero moment, at Magneto's expense no less...wow. That would have been cool.
I mentioned this in another thread but now that the thought has me, I am very remiss that it did not play out this way.
After Magneto gets stabbed, Rogue takes his powers and goes to buy them time while he dies inside and we see Magnetic Rogue fighting Sentinels to the death with Blink and co.
I was fine with cutting Paquin, but now that I put two minutes of logic to it, they missed a golden opportunity to redeem her like they did everyone else in X3. If she could have had her hero moment, at Magneto's expense no less...wow. That would have been cool.
But that is why I feel my idea seems so obvious. Magneto was already done fighting, he was stabbed and dying. She takes his power, which is fitting since her introduction to the series was as his victim where he used her power to essentially physically abuse her, and then uses it to save the day and die heroically while Magneto has his tender moment with Charles.
It is a win-win. Other than budgetary constraints of having her fight to the death too, I see no reason why that could not have been a brilliant solution instead of having her in the background to sub in for Kitty if the time would come.
So, I guess this is going to be good bye to Rogue growing as a character in the cinematic X-Men universe? Shame, she started as my favorite character.
There are many things Rogue could have done in this movie, but just like in X3, Anna Paquin simply wasn't available for an extended role. There is no way they could have shot such a huge action piece in just the few days she was on set.
It is not that simple. Redeeming Rogue is about more than just giving her someone else's powers for for a minute or two . The problem a lot of people had with her was her behavior and characterization. If you can't get the writing and acting right for her she can have all the superpowers in the world and it still won't work. Why do you think they gave Halle Berry so much grief about Storm, who was fully load? I would add January Jones as Emma Frost to that list, too.
Plus, it was more compelling in the end to see old Magneto and Professor X (played by two great old pros), who have been to hell and back with each other for over 60 years, together and saying what could have been their final words to each other.
There are many things Rogue could have done in this movie, but just like in X3, Anna Paquin simply wasn't available for an extended role. There is no way they could have shot such a huge action piece in just the few days she was on set.
Agree to disagree but I really liked what they did with Rogue in X1. I thought her relationship with Logan was the heart of the movie, and it was both sweet and something you really rooted for them to overcome in. She ended the movie a victim of Magneto's and in the second she was getting stronger and standing up for herself more but was still cracking under pressure.
For me the answer was not her flying or being just more like the comic. It was her overcoming her insecurity about herself and her ability. That was ruined by X3 when she gave into it and both sought and got the cure. Worse still, Wolverine acted like he didn't give a crap what happened to her and shrugged it off.
Agree to disagree but I really liked what they did with Rogue in X1. I thought her relationship with Logan was the heart of the movie, and it was both sweet and something you really rooted for them to overcome in. She ended the movie a victim of Magneto's and in the second she was getting stronger and standing up for herself more but was still cracking under pressure.
For me the answer was not her flying or being just more like the comic. It was her overcoming her insecurity about herself and her ability. That was ruined by X3 when she gave into it and both sought and got the cure. Worse still, Wolverine acted like he didn't give a crap what happened to her and shrugged it off.
Redemption would have been showing her in 2023 as battle hardened but strong. A survivor and a hero, who could even have (for expediency's sake) knowing looks to Logan and Iceman who is now with Kitty, but her comfortable with herself.
In this context, if she was able to take Magneto's powers (the man who first wronged her) and use them for good without hesitation in the face of almost certain destruction?
Yes, I do think it would have redeemed her for X3. Because I thought X3 should have been her growing comfortable in her own skin and growing independent. They could have done that in a handful of scenes in DOFP. And honestly, not how it was written. The idea of her being a counterbalance to Kitty was a bad idea from the word go, which is probably why it got cut, sadly enough.
Kitty Being injured was always going to happen.That's how rogue entered picture.
Ah...that was my point. They kept Kitty being injured even though they got rid of the Rogue taking over scene.
Kitty being injured ultimately led to nothing other than scenes of Kitty wincing in pain.
Well, it could have also been used to show how tough she was, and that she held on despite her injuries and loss of blood to make sure the mission was complete. Don't know about you, but when I get a deep cut from a knife, and see my blood, I actually get a little fuzzy in the head. She actually kept her composure to not lose focus at the task at hand.