Giuliani's Police State

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  1. jaguarr

    jaguarr Be Your Own Hero

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    http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/4661

    Giuliani=Police State

    Welcome to Giuliani's police state: No public criticism of the Mayor allowed, no marches or demonstrations by groups the Mayor doesn't like, no right to privacy on the streets, no information provided that might prove embarrassing to the Mayor, no monitoring of city policies by outside groups.

    It's important to remember the mind-set that devised these assaults on our freedoms because Giuliani is now seriously considering running for higher office -- U.S. Senator or even President. America should beware a politician whose trademarks are controlling access to information and intimidating those who disagree with him.

    Giuliani's Police State


    A recent example of Giuliani's overkill is his response to an AIDS demonstration a few weeks ago. First, it took a federal court order before the city would grant a permit for several hundred demonstrators to march. Then the marchers were not allow to congregate on City Hall steps. Instead, the police forced them into spaces between concrete barricades, videotaped the proceedings, and positioned snipers armed with rifles on the roof of City Hall looking down on them. This is the sort of reaction we would expect of a third world dictator.
    The barricades are just the latest evidence that Giuliani has allowed his official position to go to his head. There's the suppression of public information, the harassment of street artists and vendors, and a fence around City Hall Park. He's even banned playing stick ball in the streets!
    Then there's the city's response to the numerous lawsuits brought to enforce the laws impartially or provide information that belongs in the public domain. Typically, Giuliani loses the case in court, appeals the decision, and continues his actions. His strategy is to wear down the opposition.


    Last July, the city was forced to end an unevenly enforced ban on public gatherings on the steps of City Hall. Rather than comply with the court order, Giuliani decided that all gatherings on City Hall steps would be banned. In defiance of his edict, several members of the City Council held a meeting on the steps but weren't arrested. Apparently even Giuliani saw how silly he'd look arresting Council members for gathering on the steps of City Hall.


    The news media, nonprofits, and other public officials have had to go to court to pry loose data from the city. To evade having to disclose information, the city says it doesn't collect data in several areas, including the tracking of former welfare recipients and the job progress of WEP workers. The idea is that the city can't turn over information that it doesn't have.


    CSSNY


    Keep in mind this article was written in 1999. Several years before the MOSSAD/CIA attack on NYC.

    Giuliani's unquenchable lust for power makes him the least fit candidate for president.

    He'd take the state security apparatus that the Bush/Cheney cabal has instituted and make it even more draconian.

    Giuliani is a ruthless despot that will have no qualms about shredding what is left of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    And being a draft dodger like Cheney--SIX deferments--means Giuliani will be another war monger serving up death and destruction to please his Zionist masters.


    Just an article of interest I came across.

    jag
     
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    so, in the comics- Batman once turned Gotham City into a police state...




    Kidding, police states would suck. But, Bats actually did do that-
     
  3. SoulManX

    SoulManX The Inspector!

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    Yes and his corrupt Commissioner...9/11 was a blessing for him in some ways.

    I doubt he will get the keys to the Big House even with Patty Robertson in his pocket.
     
  4. jaguarr

    jaguarr Be Your Own Hero

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    I hope you're right. Rudy's brand of fascism makes Bush look like an amateur.

    jag
     
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    Boston is trying to be New York and New York is trying to be Boston.
     
  6. jaguarr

    jaguarr Be Your Own Hero

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    This thread must live so that Rudy's political career must die!

    jag
     
  7. raybia

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    jag do you believe all of this especially the highlighted portions?
     
  8. jaguarr

    jaguarr Be Your Own Hero

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    The CIA/Zionist crap isn't something I buy into but, having friends and family in NYC, I know that he pulled most of this stuff while he was Mayor long before 9/11 ever happened.

    jag
     
  9. Arkady Rossovich

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    People often try to swade other's thoughts to their own.
     
  10. jaguarr

    jaguarr Be Your Own Hero

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    Huh? :huh:

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    So whats this i hear about Fox News secretly helping Giuliani win the election? they were talking about it on MSNBC and that its a criminal offense of what they did, but i missed pretty much the whole story so i wasnt sure what Fox News actually did. :huh:

    but its not like i was shocked :whatever:
     
  12. C.F. Kane

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    I think any source that calls 9/11 a "Mossad/CIA attack" should not be taken seriously.
     
  13. jaguarr

    jaguarr Be Your Own Hero

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    Excellent. Aside from the obvious conspiracy stuff, which I think we've all agreed is asinine, I invite you disprove any of the things that are put forth about his tenure as Mayor of NYC.

    jag
     
  14. jaguarr

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    Haven't heard this. Do you have a link?

    jag
     
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    this doesn't surprise me. murdoch and ailes are surprisingly upfront about their use of fnc to shape politics in this country.
     
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    Wow. Very damning for Newscorp if it turns out to be true. They said that a prosecutor has said that he has evidence of the allegations, which could really turn out badly for them. All these little side stories surrounding Giuliani and dirty business dealings from his cohorts and running buddies should be sending up red flags for anyone who doesn't think he's dirty as all hell.

    jag
     
  18. Docker2.0

    Docker2.0 Watchin' you!

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    He's been dirty since he was mayor of NYC. I don't think he had anything to do with 911, but he damn sure benefitted from the disaster. He was all of a sudden "strong during the storm" and could do no wrong. Dude is a shark and shouldn't win any office. :mad:
     
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    That's when the article became meaningless to me.
     
  20. jaguarr

    jaguarr Be Your Own Hero

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    So, you guys do realize that the article itself is from the New York Amsterdam News circa December '98/January '99, making no mention of the "Mossad or CIA", don't you? The whole "Mossad/CIA" thing is the ramblings of the person who reposted the article in the previous link I gave. The article itself doesn't make those references.

    http://www.cssny.org/pubs/urbanagenda/1998_12_31.html

    jag
     
  21. raybia

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    Come on jag, leave them with some excuse to dismiss the article.
     
  22. jaguarr

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    No! :cmad:

    jag
     
  23. Badger

    Badger Side-Kick my Ass!

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    Also, if you've seen the video that the International Association of Fire Fighters put out about Giuliani's role in 9/11 you'd know just how immoral the guy is. I'll see if I can hunt it up, for those you haven't seen it.

    Edit: Here it:

    [YT]vaCYEEO-58I[/YT]
     
  24. Venom'sDad

    Venom'sDad Enter The Sym

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    Exactly... this article sounds like the rumblings of someone who detest Rudy. There are more serious articles with known evidence of his Socialist views. One can't just believe and accept everything you read about a particular person just because one dislike that person as well. This sounds like someone rant disquise as truth.

    We tend to assign blame to Presidents for leading this country and those that seek the Presidency, preparing this country, to an inevitable Socialist Society. However, the biggest contributor to this path are the Bankers/Financial Institutions who control the money-flow and market, but more important, the Congress/Senate... who legislate the laws. They are the one that deserve more scrutiny than Presidents.

    I seriously would not doubt the validity that FOX is helping Rudy; with that said, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, and numerious print medias, all are helping Hillary. The media as a whole is influencing this election towards two Socialist, a Rudy vs Hillary election. There are candidates that speak to the concerns of real Americans that are not given the light of day. They are portrayed as second tier candidates. With that much backing from the media outlets, of course the majority will support Rudy & Hillary, cause the media have told America that the others can't win or not a real contender.
     
  25. SuperMonkey

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    Yeah, in most cities (esp. crime infested ones like NY) you need a permit for public demonstations over a certain amount. :huh:


    But, I was probably paid off by big oil sooooooo....... :o
     

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