World Gloves that let you stick to walls?

[WebShooterGuy]

I realised no one was discussing the idea of climbing walls, everyone was talking about web shooters, and web formula. My first idea was to lace the entire of, or front of, the gloves with reusable gecko tape, but then I thought it might stick to the web shooter trigger...

I know people are mainly focused on the web formula because that is the biggest problem, but wouldn't it be better to work on everything at once? Then we would be an army of Spider-men!!! Muhahahahaha!
(Dibs on Scarlet Spider or Reboot Movie Spider-man)
But seriously, has any thought about this??

 

[White_widow]

Honestly, the reason we are talking about web shooters vs anything else spidey is because someone bothered to start a thread about it. Try to talk about spider sense. Even spiders don't have that.

 

[Wadaltmon]

There is always the factor that we have motion sensors on the suit; or infrared in the suit.

 

[White_widow]

I disagree about the sensors. They would not give you the kind of reaction time that you would need.

 

[Wadaltmon]

Yeah, I guess that is true. It would be possible, although expensive, to build gauntlets, that would move at the sight of something. Then again, there would be very much misfire.

 

[WebShooterGuy]

I was thinking about climbing up walls ... but a spider-sense would be cool...

 

[White_widow]

Ok, well this is your thread. There are five current projects that are attempting adhesion to the wall.

1.) Buildering- This is a modern urban sport, much like parkour and free-running. A pun off the word bouldering, this sport allows you to look at architecture in a way to climb it. Play assassin's creed enough, and you will gain this ability. Then it's a matter of practice.
(http://www.buildering.net/)

2.)Vacuum gloves- though this guy completely ripped the idea off of a kid in china who made the original, the idea is the same. A vacuum on your back with create suction that forces you to cling to walls.

(http://www.likecool.com/Spiderman_Vacuum_Gloves_Climb_like_PiderMan--Video--Gear.html)

3.)Surface tension machine- This little device forces water through small holes to create strong surface tension.

(http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sp...s-wall-crawlers/story?id=9760264#.T73Dr9zDeqk)

4.) Cilia- Geckos have a strong force of adhesion coming from the hairs in their feet. Using carbon nanotubes, scientists have created them.

(http://eng.snu.ac.kr/english/bbs/ne...ews&page=9&listcnt=&b_type=&user_rpp=&b_type=)


5.) forget cilia...- One scientist figured out that while, yes, there is adhesion coming from the hairs, that was too little to go on. Keep in mind that fibers with those kind of forces get dirty. the hair is actually a backup for the structure of the foot. Geckos have tendons and skin that are both designed for adhesion. They also have a functioning prototype that can hold 700 lbs.

(http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=384623)

 

[WebShooterGuy]

Did a bit of research into your links and decided:


1. Buildering isn't the most ideal plan, because of it's variety of movement. (You only go as fast as you can climb) Also, it only works on surfaces that aren't completely flat, such as rock faces. Plan B maybe?

2.The vaccum gloves, while sufficient, are loud, and that won't help if you're trying to sneak up on the bad guys However it is the easiest to make. (DIY-wise, not including buildering)

3.This seems like the best idea, if you have the resources. While we haven't got gloves that hold up people properly, we could alter it, like having it on boots AND gloves, or maybe covering the whole suit...

 

[Ryleyw]

Just do parkour or free running, if you cant find away to stick to walls.I do parkour and it makes me look like I have spider capibilites.

 

[Wadaltmon]

If you go onto the Sony website, there is a Spider-Man game that you can play from the new movie. At the beginning, there is a picture of Spidey, and it shows a close-up of his gloves. On the fingertips, there are some kind of circular terminal... perhaps this is what channels his web-spinning ability? or perhaps it is just part of the design? I have no idea, but maybe we should look farther into this.

 

[White_widow]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57401164-1/the-holy-grail-of-adhesives/

 

[Ryleyw]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57401164-1/the-holy-grail-of-adhesives/

I read about it and then thought wow, but it would be good if it came out this year. 700 pounds!

 

[White_widow]

700lbs? I'd be more glad to hear that it could be made for 25 cents, and that it could be made from supplies at a common fabric store. That is given the peter parker seal of approval.

 

[SUP]

If you go onto the Sony website, there is a Spider-Man game that you can play from the new movie. At the beginning, there is a picture of Spidey, and it shows a close-up of his gloves. On the fingertips, there are some kind of circular terminal... perhaps this is what channels his web-spinning ability? or perhaps it is just part of the design? I have no idea, but maybe we should look farther into this.

I think they looks like some kind of tiny suction cups,maybe its a way for Spidey to climbs on majority of wall surfaces

 

[Ryleyw]

I really wanna get geckio skin pads, I thought about sewing it on to my gloves.

 

[Green_Spider]

There are those suction cups that hold cameras that people use on their cars. They have a clamp and hold so many pounds. They are fairly big and have a clamp but if someone was to find a smaller version of that and modify the clamp so it could be unclamped and clamped down by your thumb then it would work okay. You might have to add padding onto the part that touched your hand.

 

[spidey44]

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2007-10-13/science/27961304_1_adhesive-tape-glue-pads

 

[Right-Brain Man]

I don't know exactly how gecko adhesion works, but spiders (which have no real fingers or toes, in case you didn't know) utilize their "hairs" to stick to almost any surface with van der Waals force. That is, using static electricity trapped in the tiny hairs as a weak magnetic force on the atomic level to create a temporary bond that can be broken with minimal force. Enough of these hairs can hold more force than is necessary to hold up any old Peter Parker. This works on just about any surface because at least one part of an atom almost always has the opposite charge, which is enough for the force to take effect. From what I've read on gecko adhesion, they rely mostly on the musculature of their feet and proximity of tendon to skin to grip surfaces, which seems less effective than a spider.

 

[Right-Brain Man]

You know, if any of you professional scientists wants to take a crack at inventing a synthetic version of these hairs.

 

[White_widow]

Really? You really think that the hairs will work?

Scientists have been working on carbon cilia for years. They couldn't get them to work until they switched to lizard skin. It gets too dirty, too quickly even if it would work.

certain Tarantulas don't rely on hairs to climb buildings either. Despite being hairy, they use silk spigots in their legs to climb structures. This is because they are too heavy for Van Der waals forces to support if not completely stable.

Geckos also have cilia as well, but their cilia is a backup for any skin damage.

 

[That Spider Guy]

I'm just gonna throw this out there. It's not gonna help at all in anyway, just a little remember thingy: In the first Sam Raimi movie, after Peter got bitten by the spider, in the alley, he looked at his fingers and little hairs were popping out of his skin. I was always like: WTH are those for?!?! But now I know.....

 

[That Spider Guy]

Another thing we have to take into account, is that, the "Sticky Glove" or whatever is gonna hold us, but we also have to be able to pull ourselves up and lift our own body weight so we're not just dangling around. So, anyone that's gonna do this, you might want to have some upper body strength.

 

[spidey44]

why not add the stuff to your shoes?

 

[DB_]

wouldn't you just get stuck to the floor?

 

[Wadaltmon]

wouldn't you just get stuck to the floor?

You bring up a good point, how would one control when to stick or not?