Godzilla (2014) - - - - Part 13

[Wildcard]

I think the segment on the train with the lost asian child alone gave Johnson's character more depth than any of the films being referenced in this thread.

Olsen's character had very little substance, but they cast someone good enough to atleast make the emotional trauma that the character was going through somewhat memorable.

Absolutely. I thought it was a nice touch & showed what kind of man he was that he promised to return the boy to his parents & did everything he could to make good on that promise.

Honestly can't see why so many have gripes with ATG in this movie. Again, it's not a perfect performance or the best in movie history/his career but it's not bad at all & he didn't come off as wooden or boring. Well, at least in my opinion.

And I think no mater who you cast as Elle, it would've been the same. The character didn't seem like she was meant to be a main player. She only has a few scenes that give a quick perspective of the average person who has no major insight into the situation.

I do think she did good with what she was given, though.

 

[Deserana]

Even though it didn't bother me Im happy to see that Edwards is aware maybe he was wrong with killing Cranston early.

“The decision was to kill Joe Brody, the character in the movie [not Bryan Cranston]. Then we were all, ‘Who’s going to play him?’ And you look around, and Bryan’s a phenomenal actor and we thought we’d be blessed if he did it. I’ll be honest with you: we tried versions in the screenplay where he survived. And in every one we did that with, there was nothing else that character could do without being silly. If he sticks with Ford, it becomes Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade, and the tone of the movie becomes fun, but not the tone we were trying to do. And if he sticks with the military guys, he’s like a fifth wheel. His job was done in the storyline there. And retrospectively, when you get to see the movie, I understand [why people are upset].

“We did try to make it work. It was “all ideas welcome”, even with Bryan. But as a story beat, he becomes redundant once he’s handed over the baton to the rest of the cast.

http://www.empireonline.com/features/godzilla-secrets-gareth-edwards/p2

 

[Breaker]

Wonderfully touched on by Matt Frank:

A lot of my fellow fans, even those who enjoyed the movie, can't help but wonder about WHY the MUTO's have this natural EMP ability - the power to disrupt electronics - when they're from a time LONG before electronics were even a glint in the eye of whatever passed for mammals back then.

Well, in the novelization, which is based closer to the script and early concepts than the final film, they presented something rather interesting - bioelectricity. One could argue that a creature with the ability to interrupt the electrical systems of a machine could do the same to an animal that uses bio-electricity (electric eels, electric catfish, etc). Aaaaaand, in the novelization, Godzilla's atomic breath isn't merely an exhalation of nuclear energy - it's "ignited" by a bioelectric "spark" in the back of his throat. When using it against the female MUTO, he is unable to press the advantage because the male flies overhead, and the energy of his own pulse douses the spark in Godzilla's throat, forcing the monster king to continue a physical assault.

Yay! Expanded fiction solves all plot holes with TOTALLY AIRTIGHT SCIENCE

If MUTOs have a bio-electrical system with capabilities tied to them, that would explain the developments of evolution within some selective species that evolve in forming defenses in dealing with enemies of similar biology.(This case being the MUTO that Godzilla fought) Creatures have been known to evolve and adapt from similar conditions and environments in real life. I really need to pick up that official film novel.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Inflatable Godzilla suits.

LOL
I wanna buy one and go around knocking people over in it.

I think the segment on the train with the lost asian child alone gave Johnson's character more depth than any of the films being referenced in this thread.

Olsen's character had very little substance, but they cast someone good enough to atleast make the emotional trauma that the character was going through somewhat memorable.

Agreed. ATJ didn't bother me at all in this, he didn't come off as wooden or phoning it in. Nor anyone else, really. Everyone was perfectly fine in the film.

And oh yeah, Killing Cranston off so early peeved me, but he would've been redundant. His point in the story was finished.

 

[X Knight]

Wonderfully touched on by Matt Frank:



If MUTOs have a bio-electrical system with capabilities tied to them, that would explain the developments of evolution within some selective species that evolve in forming defenses in dealing with enemies of similar biology.(This case being the MUTO that Godzilla fought) Creatures have been known to evolve and adapt from similar conditions and environments in real life. I really need to pick up that official film novel.

yeah. me too. that sounds very interesting about the MUTOS.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

box office figures this weekend

itle Weekend Total
1. Maleficent $70,000,000 $70
2. X-Men: Days of Future Past $32,600,000 $162
3. A Million Ways to Die in the West $17,069,000 $17
4. Godzilla $12,225,000 $174.6
5. Blended $8,425,000 $29.6
6. Neighbors $7,715,000 $128.6
7. The Amazing Spider-Man $3,775,000 $192.7
8. Million Dollar Arm $3,700,000 $28
9. Chef $2,009,000 $6.9
10. The Other Woman $1,425,000 $81.1


X men had a really similar drop like Godzilla, a bit less maybe but it shows the strong competition during the summer, no matter how glowing your reviews are. If Godzilla can reach 200 million it would be a really positive thing with so much competition.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Godzilla would have dropped over 70% without the holiday aided Sunday helping it out and it had another terrible drop this weekend. Yikes.

 

[Dispatch Ninja]

So was x-men's huge drop because of bad word of mouth? Oh wait.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

So was x-men's huge drop because of bad word of mouth? Oh wait.

Oh wait, what?

The answer to your question is I don't know because the X-Men series has always been more frontloaded than others. One thing is forsure people don't like it as much as the critics did.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

Godzilla would have dropped over 70% without the holiday aided Sunday helping it out and it had another terrible drop this weekend. Yikes.

It had 2 new releases to go against, plus Xmen second week. Unless you are Frozen which has unnatural legs, i don't think you can do much against so many new releases . I think the movie deserves more box office, but if it reaches at least 200 million it would be a solid start.

 

[C. Lee]

I saw Godzilla on Friday and XMDOFP on Saturday.....so I did what I could for both.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Your movie has to be Frozen to not have two 60% dives in a row? Well that's not true.

 

[Dispatch Ninja]

Oh wait, what?

The answer to your question is I don't know because the X-Men series has always been more frontloaded than others. One thing is forsure people don't like it as much as the critics did.

Really? I've seen nothing but praise for it. Maybe I haven't frequented its threads enough. I just don't think bad word of mouth on the internet has as much of an impact as you think for the casual movie goer. It dropped so much because it had tough competition with x-men. Same reason x-men dropped so much because of maleficent coming out. I expect x-men to have as much of a drop again as godzilla did because of edge of tomorrow and fault in our stars releasing this friday.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Who is talking about bad word of mouth on the internet? Don't put words in my mouth because I'm not stupid enough to go by messageboards.

 

[Dispatch Ninja]

Oh, my bad. My point still stands though that competition had way more to do with the big drops than bad word of mouth did.

 

[Jaspertian1105]

Your movie has to be Frozen to not have two 60% dives in a row? Well that's not true.

I think they are different scenarios, and very different type of movies. Obviously Frozen has stronger WOM, no doubts there, but Godzilla wasn't a bad movie at all. In my opinion was a very good movie, and most people agree that it was at least a good movie. In another scenario maybe the drops would have been less, but as it is, its still a good run.

These summers are getting more and more crowded and next year its going to get even worse, movies really have to make 100 million right out of the gate this days, but anyway that's just my view of it

And Xmen drop was almost the same, with even better reviews. The movie was pretty good so unless critics saw another movie, competition from maleficent and the west movie seems the major reason for the drop

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm just like talking about the box office numbers. I like talking about box office numbers and other related things, it's what I do. Bringing up X-Men in no way negates my opinion that poor word of mouth as well as competition of course has caused Godzilla's horrible falls. People are free to disagree of course.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

I'm just like talking about the box office numbers. I like talking about box office numbers and other related things, it's what I do. Bringing up X-Men in no way negates my opinion that poor word of mouth as well as competition of course has caused Godzilla's horrible falls. People are free to disagree of course.

DOFP's massive fall completely undermines your theory you parade around as fact.

B.O. numbers aren't an exact science. The fact that almost everything this summer has had a massive drop indicates that competition is the main factor here, not bad word mouth.

Nobody is saying that Godzilla didn't garner mixed opinions, but to conclude that bad word of mouth and only bad word of mouth is the sole cause of it's drop is absurd.

 

[C. Lee]

When a new blockbuster type movie appears every week...something is going to suffer. There is just so much money and time to go around.

 

[Liam_H]

For the movie to drop another 60% this weekend is just not good. ASM2 which has mixed WOM didn't come close to that. Even more so when Godzilla dropped 66% the weekend before. It should've stabilized to around the 50% mark, we'll see if it can do that next weekend.

 

[Defacto]

Even though it didn't bother me Im happy to see that Edwards is aware maybe he was wrong with killing Cranston early.


http://www.empireonline.com/features/godzilla-secrets-gareth-edwards/p2

Ehh, just goes to show how they should have shifted the attention from the lame ass human characters to the character in title more. And even if Cranston's character wouldn't have had nothing to do for the rest of the movie, I would still rather had watched him do nothing then watch Mr. Only one who can dismantle the bomb man.

 

[Dispatch Ninja]

For the movie to drop another 60% this weekend is just not good. ASM2 which has mixed WOM didn't come close to that. Even more so when Godzilla dropped 66% the weekend before. It should've stabilized to around the 50% mark, we'll see if it can do that next weekend.

Not likely. Way too much competition next weekend along with the movies that just came out.

 

[Liam_H]

So bad WOM then? Movies don't keep dropping 60% weekend after weekend just because of competition.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

When a new blockbuster type movie appears every week...something is going to suffer. There is just so much money and time to go around.

Exactly. What's going to do more business? A film based of a cult figure whose only other American release was almost universally hated or films with built in fanbases liked Cap, Spidey, X-Men and Maleficent?

 

[Dispatch Ninja]

So bad WOM then? Movies don't keep dropping 60% weekend after weekend just because of competition.

Sure they do. You have x-men, maleficent, edge of tomorrow, fault in our stars, and the seth mcfarlane movie that will be eating up most of the box office because they're newer.