The Dark Knight Goyer off FLASH -- 'new project' Batman?

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Someone had to do it.

Well, I've been waiting a few months to relate this news -- but I am sad to say that my version of The Flash is dead at WB.

And...

But in happier news, I'll soon be able to report on what I've been doing INSTEAD of The Flash. Stay tuned.

Jumping back onboard THE DARK KNIGHT crew? More active involvement? Probably neither (however I suspect Goyer will want more involvement) but hey, speculation was bound to happen.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=18724
 
He may come in for some more input but Im not sure how much he's even needed at this point.
 
Awwww, that makes me sad.

I was looking forward to Goyer's flash. It was right up his alley.
 
Darn, I was looking forward to Flash. Hopefully a good Flash movie will be made.
 
I have my doubts that a Flash movie would be cool, but I was still curious to see what he came up with. Hopefully a script will get leaked online somewhere.
 
Maybe with Goyer off the case, Michael Rosenbaum can get involved with the next Flash movie.

Damn I wish he could play movie Lex, but Flash would work too.
 
Frankly, Goyer was not the best choice for the Flash--but he was an acceptable choice, and now it's far less likely we'll get a Flash movie at all, so this is depressing. I suspect the creative differences between Goyer and WB involved them not being interested in a faithful interpretation of the Flash (who else recalls the proposed Flash TV series set in Gotham about a kid--Wally?--going back in time to stop crimes?).

Now, if we do get a Flash movie, it will probably suck balls and star Jack Black.
 
Frankly, Goyer was not the best choice for the Flash--but he was an acceptable choice, and now it's far less likely we'll get a Flash movie at all, so this is depressing. I suspect the creative differences between Goyer and WB involved them not being interested in a faithful interpretation of the Flash (who else recalls the proposed Flash TV series set in Gotham about a kid--Wally?--going back in time to stop crimes?).

Now, if we do get a Flash movie, it will probably suck balls and star Jack Black.

Yup :( Let Steven DeKnight (Smallville) do a Flash movie.
 
...I can't tell if that's sarcasm. I really hope it is.
 
Frankly, Goyer was not the best choice for the Flash--but he was an acceptable choice, and now it's far less likely we'll get a Flash movie at all, so this is depressing. I suspect the creative differences between Goyer and WB involved them not being interested in a faithful interpretation of the Flash (who else recalls the proposed Flash TV series set in Gotham about a kid--Wally?--going back in time to stop crimes?).

Now, if we do get a Flash movie, it will probably suck balls and star Jack Black.

Maybe they didn't like his script. Goyer isn't that good of a writer and only seems to produce really good stuff when working with great directors.

...I can't tell if that's sarcasm. I really hope it is.

Me too.
 
Goyer is overrated. BB's brilliance was due more to Nolan's direction than the story/script.
 
Maybe they didn't like his script. Goyer isn't that good of a writer and only seems to produce really good stuff when working with great directors.
Somehow I doubt the men who greenlit "Catwoman," "Steel," and "Batman & Robin" kicked Goyer out on his ass because his script wasn't good enough. You're right, he does do lower quality work when working on his own, but those employed by WB are required to have the section of the brain responsible for detecting quality surgically removed--it could be the worst script on Earth, and they wouldn't know it.

No, if they gave Goyer the boot it's probably because Goyer wanted a movie called "The Flash" and WB wanted a movie called "The FINO." Expect a forthcoming announcement on the Schumacher-directed version with Ben Stiller as a Whacky speedster.
 
I don't know about Flash getting his own movie. That's like Green Lantern getting his own movie out the gate. I'd rathe they do a Justice League film or something, and see how the world takes to all these different characters. If any one of them stands out, give them their own film.

The Flash is cool and all, but I'm not too fond of the quality of comic book films that have been released to date. I'd hate to see it yet another character get lamed-up.

my 2 cents.
 
A Justice League movie would be a disaster. Everyone not named "Batman," "Superman," or "Wonder Woman" would have their roles filled by third-rate actors to keep the budget under control. Bale would likely decline involvement and have to be recast.

WB's meddling would dumb the League down to street level and clad them in "hip" leather costumes (see the attrcious Smallvile episode--as if that isn't redundant). Few people are qualified to write or direct such a film, and even if such people were involved, they would be crippled by WB interference.

Furthermore, The Flash and Green Lantern are among DC's primary cast of characters. They've been consistently popular since their creation, and the idea that they couldn't support their own films is ridiculous. If Daredevil and Ghost Rider can do it, so can Green Lantern and The Flash.
 
A Justice League movie would be a disaster. Everyone not named "Batman," "Superman," or "Wonder Woman" would have their roles filled by third-rate actors to keep the budget under control. Bale would likely decline involvement and have to be recast.

WB's meddling would dumb the League down to street level and clad them in "hip" leather costumes (see the attrcious Smallvile episode--as if that isn't redundant). Few people are qualified to write or direct such a film, and even if such people were involved, they would be crippled by WB interference.

Furthermore, The Flash and Green Lantern are among DC's primary cast of characters. They've been consistently popular since their creation, and the idea that they couldn't support their own films is ridiculous. If Daredevil and Ghost Rider can do it, so can Green Lantern and The Flash.

Well ****ing said.

I'm very, very surprised that WB hasn't gotten their **** together yet and done a GL or FLASH film. Perhaps it is because there aren't enough talented, willing directors able and interested in taking on the property(s) -- they aren't nearly as popular as Batman and Superman, and thus I'm sure a director or writer wouldn't be as familiar with the concept of each as well as one would with Batman and/or Superman. I mean, really, who doesn't know Batman and Superman's origins?

These films (i.e. GL, FLASH, WW) require a director and/or writer with a vision and talent capable of bringing these heroes to the big screen. They also need to respect the character(s), remain objective and still faithful without screwing up the core epicenter of each character's mythology (remaining true to the spirit of the character, etc etc). Which is going to be hard to find for these characters, like I said, because they haven't had the media exposure that Batman and Superman have had -- GL especially, who hasn't had a film yet nor a cartoon or a television series -- FLASH and WW have more clout in that regard because both have had more media exposure i.e. television shows and such.

GL has not, and thus only real comic-book fans would really understand and recongize the merits of a GL film and how to pull it off, and let's face it, there aren't many diehard, sincere, reverent comic-book fan directors out there who aren't hacks or David Goyer. The best directors who've adapted comic-books into films have, for the most part, beeen filmmakers largely disassociated with comic-books themselves (i.e. Chris Nolan, Bryan Singer, Tim Burton, Richard Donner, etc etc). Sam Raimi being an obvious exception.

I'd say give it time. Let WB try and find the right guys for these jobs. Joss Whedon and David Goyer obviously weren't, or they just weren't at the right spot at the right time. But this isn't Batman or Superman -- a very good reason why we got amazing films is because we had directors like Nolan and Singer APPROACH Warner Bros. about doing a film, which happened to be damn good, and WB had the balls, finally, to listen. Unless we have another Nolan or Singer approach WB about doing GL, Flash, or WW, count out these superheroes on the big screen for the time being.

Sucks, but that's life.
 
Here's the real truth: Joss Whedon should direct all currently unclaimed comic book movies. That man walks on water, I swear to God. He craps gold. It's ridiculous.
 
Here's the real truth: Joss Whedon should direct all currently unclaimed comic book movies. That man walks on water, I swear to God. He craps gold. It's ridiculous.

I keep saying, now that Whedon's off Wonder Woman (a lame character undeserving of his talent), give Green Lantern to him.

WB's meddling would dumb the League down to street level and clad them in "hip" leather costumes (see the attrcious Smallvile episode--as if that isn't redundant). Few people are qualified to write or direct such a film, and even if such people were involved, they would be crippled by WB interference.

I dont think it's fair to compare Smallville to the films. Smallville is afraid to acknowledge it's a comic book show, and would rather clad everyone in lame hoodies as opposed to real costumes.

I say give most characters their own films, then just combine them into a Justice Leauge movie. They'd already be introduced, so you could get right into the good stuff.

Damn I wish he could play movie Lex, but Flash would work too.

Yeah, but then you'd have to fire Kevin Spacey, and that's just blasphemy. Not to mention he's far too young.
 
I been saying for months Whedom was NOT the right guy to make WW. Say whatever you want of his talent, he just didn´t have the right sensibility, it´s like putting Richard Lester to do Superman, he was a brilliant guy, but he was a cynical, he didn´t really believe in it the way you´re supposed to do.

As for Goyer, I always thought of Flash as something lighter and simpler than the Batman franchise, so I didn´t think it was above Goyer´s talents, even if it was really Nolan who made Batman Begins what it was. I wonder if WB´s sudden changes in approach to their DC-related movies have to do with the fact SR wasn´t quite the megahit they were hoping for.
 
Yeah possibly. Maybe they were banking on SR making enough money to the point where they could take a chance and give Goyer and Whedon a lot of freedom. They made a big mistake giving Singer so much freedom and they probably don't want to make it again.
 
IMO Wonder Woman has a lot of potential as a property, its just the right approach needs to be taken.
 
I don't think they made a mistake with Singer at all. SR was a great film. I really don't understand the negative viewpoint about it around here.
 
I don't think they made a mistake with Singer at all. SR was a great film. I really don't understand the negative viewpoint about it around here.

Well I am not really getting into the quality aspect...even though I did hate it. I am talking about the huge amounts of money pumped into scenes that didn't even make it into the theatre. Going by past reports I have seen he was given A LOT more freedom. The budget was WAY too bloated but they gave it too Singer because he was coming off the highly successful X-Men franchise and it sort of blew up in their faces.
 

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