The Amazing Spider-Man Green Goblin: Live or Die?

[LegendAssemble]

Assuming Goblin and the events of the Night Gwen Stacy Died unfold in AMS2, we are left with the question of the Goblins fate? Given the status in the comics Gwen is still dead, but Goblin is has been back for about twenty years now. So, should Norman pay the piper or should he be taken away to jail to terrorize another day?

Personally I'd like to see Uncle Ben's killer die in the next movie and have Peter feel some what responsible and learn a lesson on revenge. Then when Goblin kills Gwen, have him have the chance to beat him to death and let him die, but have let him rot in jail instead to show he's grown as a character.

EDIT: Also I think Sam Raimi did a good enough job adapting his death and I fear it would feel a bit redundant. Maybe a homage like when Batman throws the joker off the building in TDK (no way that wasn't a homage to Tim Burton's film!)

 

[spidergeek232]

It actually be pretty interesting to see Goblin in prison instead of dying. But they would need to put him in the super high security Rykers Prison. Thats if he's mutated with green skin and super strength, etc. He didnt die at first in the Ultimate comics so that would be following the comics still.

 

[AnneFan]

It actually be pretty interesting to see Goblin in prison instead of dying. But they would need to put him in the super high security Rykers Prison. Thats if he's mutated with green skin and super strength, etc. He didnt die at first in the Ultimate comics so that would be following the comics still.

I'm thinking like you. I'd like to see him live this time.

 

[Dagenspear]

And what would this accomplish exactly? What would be the purpose of him living? Blow him up. Simple. Big chemical explosion. Nuke the bastard. Done and done.

 

[Human Torch]

He should die,just as he did in the comics.But,much like Spidey's origin in ASM,they'll re-write it simply to differentiate it from Raimi's version.

 

[©KAW]

DIE. I want death all around Peter Parker, as to not have a happy-go-lucky ending come ASMIII.

 

[psylockolussus]

Die, so they could easily move on to the next villain.

 

[SpiderBat]

Since he's died on screen once I wouldn't expect him to die again.

 

[Oscorp]

I'd prefer him to "die" the way he did in the comics.

 

[LegendAssemble]

And what would this accomplish exactly? What would be the purpose of him living? Blow him up. Simple. Big chemical explosion. Nuke the bastard. Done and done.

What happened to something better than what they did in the comics?

Also it all depends on how its done, having him live or die could be equally satisfying given the context of the story.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

It's harder to keep a villain alive and not use them. If you want a villain like Magneto, that you're gonna use in each installment, obviously keep them alive. But if you have no foreseeable plans with using Goblin in a future film after his debut, kill him. It would raise too many questions and the general audience may feel it's not conclusive enough. This isn't the comics.

 

[Dagenspear]

What happened to something better than what they did in the comics?

Well, that wouldn't be better, so, what are gettin' at? The audience is going need a sense of biblical and karmic justice, especially after going through the horrifying and traumatic experience of watching Emma Stone DIE right before their very eyes. Unless you're talking about a fate worse than death like being brain dead his whole life, the film will suck by sheer default. But if Gwen lives, then sure. That still doesn't change the lack of purpose behind it though.

 

[TheForgotten]

He should die the same way in the comics, and be the only villain in this series of Spider-Man films to die. That, or one of the few. Gets too repetetive when the villain always dies.

 

[LegendAssemble]

Well, that wouldn't be better, so, what are gettin' at? The audience is going need a sense of biblical and karmic justice, especially after going through the horrifying and traumatic experience of watching Emma Stone DIE right before their very eyes. Unless you're talking about a fate worse than death like being brain dead his whole life, the film will suck by sheer default. But if Gwen lives, then sure. That still doesn't change the lack of purpose behind it though.

You're a big fan of the death penalty aren't you? Theres nothing biblical about that and karmatic isn't a word. Really what is it with you and Gwen, she isn't that great a character and she's totally expendable. Theoretically everyone's expendable but Peter. Whats the big deal about watching her die? We saw Maggie Gyllenhall die, we see people die in film all the time. The audience doesn't need any justice, its all dependent on the theme of the story.

If they're going to do Norman straight from the 60s and similarly to Spider-Man 2002 then, yeah he should die right after killing Gwen. But if they're playing him up to be this big mastermind then he shouldn't die until the third film.

Also theres no reason he should be the only villain to die if he does. It's not like this going to go on forever and even if it did it's not like these villains are getting reused. The Lizard most likely isn't coming back, Dr.Connors is a big supporting character so most likely he will, but the studio does have some say and they're not going to be able to market "Spider-Man vs the Lizard round 2", plus it would needlessly take away from any other villains they might have.

 

[Dagenspear]

You're a big fan of the death penalty aren't you? Theres nothing biblical about that and karmatic isn't a word. Really what is it with you and Gwen, she isn't that great a character and she's totally expendable. Theoretically everyone's expendable but Peter. Whats the big deal about watching her die? We saw Maggie Gyllenhall die, we see people die in film all the time. The audience doesn't need any justice, its all dependent on the theme of the story.

I'm adamantly AGAINST the death penalty. I would NEVER support the taking of a human life, and don't you DARE accuse me of something so disgusting. Which is why I never said Peter should kill him, he should cause his own death.

 

[Dagenspear]

You really need to stop making assumptions, especially considering you, well, ya know, ALWAYS BEING WRONG and all.

1. That me wanting Gwen to live has anything to do with me liking her. Which is wrong. I don't particularly. Nor do I feel any real attatchment to the Peter/Gwen relationship in any version. I kinda hate "first love" relationships, and never find myself fond of the idea of first love being true-love. I also don't really like pure, good girl types, I find it annoying and fake, and despite that Emma's fabulous in her performance, and the character is written in a good way, I find the only reason for me to actually like the character is because she's played by Emma Stone. So, it's not really a matter of liking, I didn't want BDH Gwen to die, I didn't want the SSM Gwen to die, nor did I want Ultimate Gwen to die, although she was pretty awesome and I loved her so much, so that's not really fair.

It's a matter of principle. She shouldn't die, so I don't want her to.

 

[Dagenspear]

You're absolutely right. "Karmatic" isn't a word. The word I typed, however, "karmic," is. Google it, kid, and stop embarassing yourself.

 

[Dagenspear]

If they're going to do Norman straight from the 60s and similarly to Spider-Man 2002 then, yeah he should die right after killing Gwen. But if they're playing him up to be this big mastermind then he shouldn't die until the third film.

That's what I said. He kills Gwen in the third movie, and then dies. Your point?

 

[Valkyrje]

I'd like Peter to kill him. I'd like him to become angry, mad, sick ... something like : 'take off your mask Osborn and face me' and then 'you're the creep who's going to pay' ..... 'you killed the woman I love' .

 

[LegendAssemble]

That's what I said. He kills Gwen in the third movie, and then dies. Your point?

Because she shouldn't die in the third film she should die in the second. Peter should have lows in his life but it shouldn't end of that note. He needs at least one film to move on in someway or another.

 

[LegendAssemble]

You're absolutely right. "Karmatic" isn't a word. The word I typed, however, "karmic," is. Google it, kid, and stop embarassing yourself.

How was I embarrassing myself? You said something grammatically incorrect and it stands. Jeez didn't know you felt so strongly about a fictional supporting character.

 

[The Joker]

Impale him with the glider ASM #122 style. SM-1 did a good job with that scene.

 

[Web face]

I would prefer to die from his own doing, but not the way it was done in SM1. We already saw that on screen and that plan wasn't really great anyway, if he wasn't planning to kill himself at least, which I think he wasn't. Wouldn't the glider go through Spider-Man and impale Gobby anyway, if he didn't move? I want him to die mostly because it wouldn't make sense for a such a powerful and dangerous man to stay alive and not come back. I would assume he isn't coming back after Spider-man's last fight with him because the movie makers might want to use different villains. Also, it gives a little more closure to his story.

 

[Oscorp]

I would prefer to die from his own doing, but not the way it was done in SM1. We already saw that on screen and that plan wasn't really great anyway, if he wasn't planning to kill himself at least, which I think he wasn't. Wouldn't the glider go threw Spider-Man and impale Gobby anyway, if he didn't move? I want him to die mostly because it wouldn't make sense for a such a powerful and dangerous man to stay alive and not come back. I would assume he isn't coming back after Spider-man's last fight with him because the movie makers might want to use different villains. Also, it gives a little more closure to his story.

I thought that too! :P

 

[Web face]

I thought that too! :P

High five!