Green Lantern Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 1

[Cain]

That said, the Green Lantern Mythos deserves several movies...At least 3, maybe more...just not like this...It's such a wasted opportunity for one of DC's greatest properties, and has caused me to lose faith in DC Entertainment. This was the big one for me.

I agree with this.

 

[craigdbfan]

It's like you're implying that every NZ-shot film could use WETA. You've apparently missed the fact that several film productions never shot a frame of footage in NZ/Australia, but got WETA to do CGI work. Productions like X-Men: The Last Stand, Eragon, Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and X-Men: First Class for example got WETA to do some key CGI scenes.

Your argument doesn't hold water.

True.

Jesus Christ relax, especially since you don't have the facts. WETA was finalizing their deal with WB for GL when production was slated for New Zealand. The reason WETA was NOT going to follow GL across the world was because they are too busy utilizing their major resources for The Hobbit. Since the GL cast and crew were going to be in the company's backyard it facilitated their work on the film. Once production moved to New Orleans to save a couple of bucks, WETA pulled out.

Now you know

False.

 

[Tony Stark]

He was definitely not the man for this job. I keep saying that he is probably one of the main problems. Some people are giving major flak to WB which is understandable to a degree but they gave him all the resources to make this possible and he screwed up big time.

Then again WB ruined the movie by churning out a terrible script due to hiring subpar screenwriters for this project.

The people who should have been involved should of had a passion and a general know how in the sci fi genre in general.

So many things went wrong. I know the "concept" of Green Lantern isn't to farfetched or flawed because people have gone with even more fantastical ideas in films in the past its just that the execution was dirt poor.

Martin Campbell is a great director, anyone who says otherwise is fooling themself. However, at some point on this project he went AWOL and said **** it, and cashed in. As I said on other threads, this tells me all I need to know about the guy.

WB does bear the brunt of the resposibility, because it's up to them and the producers to have fired him before this film went out.

He was not the only problem, the script writing was beyond horrible, and probably that led to Campbell's decision to cash in.

The problem is there is no one single element you can point to on why this film is such a monumental failure. It's an amalgamation of hundreds of bad decisions leading to one giant cluster you know what.

 

[Poni_Boy]

True.



False.

Ha! Keep telling yourself that

EDIT: I don't usually reveal sources but this information can be found on the net anyway. Here's an email from last year between one of WETA's PR handlers and myself:

Pietro,
Weta Workshop isn’t involved in Green Lantern at this point in time. Unfortunately our agreement never came to pass after it was decided production would stay across the pond. Still don't know the status of Avengers but will keep you posted.


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[craigdbfan]

Martin Campbell is a great director, anyone who says otherwise is fooling themself. However, at some point on this project he went AWOL and said **** it, and cashed in. As I said on other threads, this tells me all I need to know about the guy.

WB does bear the brunt of the resposibility, because it's up to them and the producers to have fired him before this film went out.

He was not the only problem, the script writing was beyond horrible, and probably that led to Campbell's decision to cash in.

The problem is there is no one single element you can point to on why this film is such a monumental failure. It's an amalgamation of hundreds of bad decisions leading to one giant cluster you know what.

I've said repeatedly that he's a great director just incredibly ill suited for this movie.

I also wrote in that post that he's just one of many problems with this entire production.

 

[Tony Stark]

53M for the actuals. A little higher than previously thought, still a bomb considering it tanked on Saturday. I have a feeling the monday dropoff will be even worse, probably in the 4M range.

I think this will end up in teh 110M range domestically and only 230 WW.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Martin Campbell is a great director, anyone who says otherwise is fooling themself. However, at some point on this project he went AWOL and said **** it, and cashed in. As I said on other threads, this tells me all I need to know about the guy.

WB does bear the brunt of the resposibility, because it's up to them and the producers to have fired him before this film went out.

He was not the only problem, the script writing was beyond horrible, and probably that led to Campbell's decision to cash in.

The problem is there is no one single element you can point to on why this film is such a monumental failure. It's an amalgamation of hundreds of bad decisions leading to one giant cluster you know what.

GL needed a Sci-Fi man on the project. I don't mean someone who has necessarily done 100mil Sci-Fi films. I mean someone who has passion for Sci-Fi and has a mind for what makes Sci-fi work. Martin Campbell, while talented, isn't a Sci-Fi guy. He does more grounded films.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Martin Campbell is a great director, anyone who says otherwise is fooling themself. However, at some point on this project he went AWOL and said **** it, and cashed in. As I said on other threads, this tells me all I need to know about the guy.

WB does bear the brunt of the resposibility, because it's up to them and the producers to have fired him before this film went out.

He was not the only problem, the script writing was beyond horrible, and probably that led to Campbell's decision to cash in.

The problem is there is no one single element you can point to on why this film is such a monumental failure. It's an amalgamation of hundreds of bad decisions leading to one giant cluster you know what.

We've seen him at his best

GoldenEye
Casino Royale

We've seen him at his worst

Legend of Zorro
Green Lantern

"Edge of Darkness" was partially Gibson backlash

 

[craigdbfan]

GL needed a Sci-Fi man on the project. I don't mean someone who has necessarily done 100mil Sci-Fi films. I mean someone who has passion for Sci-Fi and has a mind for what makes Sci-fi work. Martin Campbell, while talented, isn't a Sci-Fi guy. He does more grounded films.

Exactly.

 

[Tony Stark]

I've said repeatedly that he's a great director just incredibly ill suited for this movie.

I also wrote in that post that he's just one of many problems with this entire production.

Yeah, I was essentially agreeing with what you wrote. Sorry if it seemed like I was contradicting you. You're assesment is 100% spot on.

 

[craigdbfan]

Yeah, I was essentially agreeing with what you wrote. Sorry if it seemed like I was contradicting you. You're assesment is 100% spot on.

No problem.

 

[Tony Stark]

GL needed a Sci-Fi man on the project. I don't mean someone who has necessarily done 100mil Sci-Fi films. I mean someone who has passion for Sci-Fi and has a mind for what makes Sci-fi work. Martin Campbell, while talented, isn't a Sci-Fi guy. He does more grounded films.

Agreed, there are several options they could have went with, and probably spent less money than they did on Campbell.

Sufice it to say, I don't think Campbell will have another directing job with WB for a long, long time because of this. The studio knows when they've been taken for a ride.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think one thing that really hurt this film was the villain selection. Parallax (as a full villain and not a lurking force) was used way too early, and Hector Hammond wasn't a good choice. Someone like Attrocitus would have worked much better for the film. Parallax should have been a looming threat that got expanded upon in the 2nd film as he taints Sinestro into using a yellow ring. Hector Hammond as a mirror Hal was a good idea, but once again...poorly executed. I think if we were to have a villain tied to Abin Sur, Attrocitus would have worked better.

 

[Delete]

I think one thing that really hurt this film was the villain selection. Parallax (as a full villain and not a lurking force) was used way too early, and Hector Hammond wasn't a good choice. Someone like Attrocitus would have worked much better for the film. Parallax should have been a looming threat that got expanded upon in the 2nd film as he taints Sinestro into using a yellow ring. Hector Hammond as a mirror Hal was a good idea, but once again...poorly executed. I think if we were to have a villain tied to Abin Sur, Attrocitus would have worked better.

Making it a buddy cop film the veteran, Sinestro, and the rookie, Hal, looking for the killer of Abin, Attrocitus, would have worked so much better.

 

[TheVileOne]

So kind of like First Flight basically? .

But yeah way too much time on Earth. Not enough time in outerspace or Oa. We should've seen other planets and other races. Sort of like MIB but set in space . . . with less comedy.

 

[craigdbfan]

First Flight >>> GL live action

 

[Marvin]

We've seen him at his best

GoldenEye
Casino Royale

We've seen him at his worst

Legend of Zorro
Green Lantern

"Edge of Darkness" was partially Gibson backlash

Mask of Zorro is my favorite of his.
one of my favorite of the superhero category, seeing a character you watched on TV as a kid get a movie while your still a kid and handled like that...
pure bliss

 

[Doctor Jones]

If Campbell is so good at grounding things and capable of creating great character moments as seen in his best films, then why the hell did the Earth scenes suck?

 

[CaptainCraig]

First Flight >>> GL live action

I've not seen it yet but according to Neflix it's going to be in my mailbox tonight.

 

[Spider-Fan]

If Campbell is so good at grounding things and capable of creating great character moments as seen in his best films, then why the hell did the Earth scenes suck?

Even the Earth scenes had to blend with the overall plot, which expanded passed the confines of Earth. This film struggled to find a medium between Earth and space. I felt there was a vast universe in the film, but the narrative never found a way to make both places work.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Aww bummer... Green Lantern should have been DC's Iron Man.

But they did pretty much everything wrong.

Ah well... In Nolan WB/DC will now worship.

 

[Episode29]

Campbell is a highly competent journeyman. He gets the job done, but is only ever as good as the material he's given to work with. There's nothing wrong with that, but GL needed someone with vision. Campbell doesn't have that. He's a hired gun who works best under strong, hands-on producers. The Broccoli clan with the Bond films and Spielberg for Zorro.

Beyond those three titles, the man's filmography is spotty at best.

And, frankly, I'd place blame for GL more on the producers than Campbell.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Very weird...

 

[Karelia]

Maybe it's Mark Millar.

I sure hope this doesn't keep DC from trying other properties. Maybe they'll go for cheaper characters like Green Arrow/The Question. Or just not put so much into one film. I mean c'mon GL seemed like it should have taken almost all in space with the amount of money into it. I don't know.

 

[GreenKToo]

Stupid, WB. I remember reading about this.

Which is kinda ironic when you think about it..they moved to N.O. to save money, a new FX company had to be hired as a result, and it all may have cost them way more money now in the long run.