Green Lantern Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[merced]

I think some figure that if MOS does really well, they'll want to reconcile even more because there's more money. Happy days for everyone, etc.

But generally, people will fight much more vigorously over a million dollars than they will over a quarter.

That's true.

WB/DC will be fine w/o Superman. he's not a flagship character for them.

Batman, Flash, Green Lantern, JLA and Aquaman all outsell Superman now.

That tells me that the future for another solo DC franchise is not Supes anyway but one of these other more popular and relatable characters. IMO they could be far more lucrative than Superman if developed over time.

Easier said than done as we just saw with GL.

But the right actor, script and director and I think WB could find itself with it's own Ironman.

I'm sad for the heirs as this will be in the courts for a decade to come. Costing them a bundle. And when they finally get the OK to use their rights they'll have 5 or 6 years only to exploit them. When it's all said and done, the heirs are not going to make a lot from having recaptured the Superman rights.

 

[KalMart]

That's true.

WB/DC will be fine w/o Superman. he's not a flagship character for them.

Batman, Flash, Green Lantern, JLA and Aquaman all outsell Superman now.

That tells me that the future for another solo DC franchise is not Supes anyway but one of these other more popular and relatable characters. IMO they could be far more lucrative than Superman if developed over time.

Easier said than done as we just saw with GL.

But the right actor, script and director and I think WB could find itself with it's own Ironman.

I'm sad think for the heirs as this will be in the courts for a decade to come. Costing them a bundle. And when they finally get the OK to use their rights they'll have 5 or 6 years only to exploit them. When it's all said and done, the heirs are not going to make a lot from having recaptured the Superman rights.

They can't do anything with it anyway without WB. They're not publishers or a production company, and its not like Marvel or some other name will want to develop half a Superman and pay WB a fortune to use the other half. Toberoff really throws a big monkey wrench into everything. Just the fact that the heirs agreed to his 'take' tells you that they can't buy it back from him if they couldn't afford to just pay him as a lawyer...especially if nothing's being done with Superman while in legal limbo. So yeah, they're pretty-much screwed either way.

But anyway, it's not like WB will fold altogether if nothing happens with Superman...or even if no other DC characters make it big outside of Batman. They're still making money hand-over-fist in areas outside of comics/DC.

I wonder if the author of Harry Potter has any other books?

 

[merced]

They can't do anything with it anyway without WB. They're not publishers or a production company, and its not like Marvel or some other name will want to develop half a Superman and pay WB a fortune to use the other half. Toberoff really throws a big monkey wrench into everything. Just the fact that the heirs agreed to his 'take' tells you that they can't buy it back from him if they couldn't afford to just pay him as a lawyer...especially if nothing's being done with Superman while in legal limbo. So yeah, they're pretty-much screwed either way.

But anyway, it's not like WB will fold altogether if nothing happens with Superman...or even if no other DC characters make it big outside of Batman. They're still making money hand-over-fist in areas outside of comics/DC.

I wonder if the author of Harry Potter has any other books?

ITA. WB doesn't need Superman. They also don't need to try to put out a superhero film every year. That s not their forte. Their strength is more in adapting novels such as HP.

I noted not a word about Cavill being optioned for sequels. In prior times with Routh, RR and Bale and others when they were signed on shortly after the news would come out that they had options for 2 more films after the first.

Cavill's agent knows what going on with the legal stuff and that there is little chance for a sequel so I'd guess he's refused to tie himself into a contract that isn't going to come to pass and that will prevent him from taking substantial film roles in the years out from MOS.

 

[The Sage]

And I noted that this isn't the Superman thread. Carry the conversation to that section folks.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I wouldn't be surprised if GL missed that 120mil mark.

 

[chiefchirpa]

.. and certainly missed 100 million Overseas target.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

That wouldn't be suprising either.

 

[KangConquers]

It's pretty sad that DC has spent their last 4 or 5 years trying to develop Green Lantern into their franchise player and his movie isn't even going to beat Ghost Rider for attendance.

 

[Herolee10]

Wow; in terms of quality, the stories for both GL and Transformers 3 were about the same for me, and yet Transformers 3 has made 399 million worldwide in about one week, whereas GL hasn't even passed the 200 million mark for their total gross throughout its entire time in the BO (at least, from the last time that I had checked).

 

[Mysteryman]

The story just didnt resonate for the general audience.
Sad but true.

 

[Nemesis Prime]

The story just didnt resonate for the general audience.
Sad but true.

Yeah.. Thor did a much better job of explaining the Asgard imo.

 

[CaptainCraig]

It's pretty sad that DC has spent their last 4 or 5 years trying to develop Green Lantern into their franchise player and his movie isn't even going to beat Ghost Rider for attendance.

Heck, at the rate it's going it may do well to make the same money ($115m) 4yrs later and with 3-D.

This is so bad.
I laugh at people who still are taking to heart that this has a shot at a sequel.
I've read numerous times something like, "Warners needs a franchise with Potter ending, may as well be GL."
Warners would be losing even more money on a GL sequel, how do they not comprehend that? Warners would be best concerned with better managing of funds, solid script and less suits entangled in production for a Flash, WW, Aquaman, Swamp Thing (this may be the sleeper franchise potential imo). Something, even a smaller character like Blue Beetle, Resurrection Man, Booster Gold, Manhunter....anything would be better than throwing more good money after bad in the form of a GL sequel.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

For over 15 years I've looked at the decisions Warner Brothers have made concerning DC comics on tv and film and I just can't fathom how they still haven't learned from many mistakes. I mean yeah there's a lot off corporate turnover and changes in power but you'd tyhink some of the new guys could look at the errors of the past and adjust accordingly. But I see some of the same mistakes they were making 15 years ago.

Something I can't shake off my perception of WB over the years is how I believe they see comic book movies in general, going back to the horror stories of the pre-Nolan/Singer development hells for the Batman/Superman sequels. More than any other major studio, they seem to view CBMs as nothing more than 2 hour commercials for toys and merchandise, or a linchpin for some new multimedia bonanza (for the lack of an appropriate term).

 

[Gamma Burst]

Wow; in terms of quality, the stories for both GL and Transformers 3 were about the same for me, and yet Transformers 3 has made 399 million worldwide in about one week, whereas GL hasn't even passed the 200 million mark for their total gross throughout its entire time in the BO (at least, from the last time that I had checked).

It hasn't even reached 150M, actually...

 

[CaptainCraig]

^^^^
True, out 3 weeks and still not over $150m worldwide!!!

Sad, so, so, so sad.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

It's pretty sad that DC has spent their last 4 or 5 years trying to develop Green Lantern into their franchise player and his movie isn't even going to beat Ghost Rider for attendance.

At this point, im wondering if it's even going to beat Green HORNET...

 

[chiefchirpa]

At this point, im wondering if it's even going to beat Green HORNET...

Hornet got the better date in this case.

Mediocre films like Green Lantern and Green Hornet shouldn't ever dare to be sandwiched or worst like it is now, superseded by films like Cars 2, Transformers 3 and Harry Potter 7.2

 

[KalMart]

Heck, at the rate it's going it may do well to make the same money ($115m) 4yrs later and with 3-D.

This is so bad.
I laugh at people who still are taking to heart that this has a shot at a sequel.
I've read numerous times something like, "Warners needs a franchise with Potter ending, may as well be GL."
Warners would be losing even more money on a GL sequel, how do they not comprehend that? Warners would be best concerned with better managing of funds, solid script and less suits entangled in production for a Flash, WW, Aquaman, Swamp Thing (this may be the sleeper franchise potential imo). Something, even a smaller character like Blue Beetle, Resurrection Man, Booster Gold, Manhunter....anything would be better than throwing more good money after bad in the form of a GL sequel.

Or just stop with so many superhero movies and concentrate more on original film projects.

 

[Octoberist]

It's pretty sad that DC has spent their last 4 or 5 years trying to develop Green Lantern into their franchise player and his movie isn't even going to beat Ghost Rider for attendance.

It's very pitiful.

 

[Herolee10]

SR had less action; a controversial kid, and a rehash villain, and yet I think it did much better than GL in a shorter amount of time as well if I'm not mistaken.

 

[HighFivingMF]

It's Superman after all.

 

[KalMart]

It's just Superman after all.

Fixed. t:

 

[Silver Surfer]

It's pretty sad that DC has spent their last 4 or 5 years trying to develop Green Lantern into their franchise player and his movie isn't even going to beat Ghost Rider for attendance.

Truth be told, DC made two big mistakes. One was making GL the first non Supes/Bats character to get a movie. It should have been Flash or WW, two characters who are not only popular in the GA but their concept is almost universally known and understood. GL falls short on both accounts.

Second mistake was making Hal Jordan the lead, it should have been John Stewart. I know that Hal is the most prolific Lantern in the comics and I will even agree that he "deserves" it BUT looking at it strictly from a business stand point, John was the safer bet. John was the most popular Lantern in the eyes of the GA thanks to JLU: The Animated series, I can't tell you how many times I have heard from friends or read online that: "Why is a white guy playing GL?" I remember when IM2 came out there was so much buzz around War Machine because people wanted to see a Black Superhero, even if he was a sidekick. If DC/WB heralded GL in as the first comic book Black superhero in the lead role, it would have drawn a lot of buzz.

Almost every review I have read says Hal is a cheap knockoff of Tony Stark or Peter Parker, John would have automatically distanced himself from the typical super hero build because of his military background and rough upbringing. John as a whole would have had an edge and a uniqueness to him, something Hal didn't, at least not in the eyes of the GA.

 

[jacobed]

Until this movie was announced I had no idea there was a white GL. I always thought John was the only GL and I loved him in the Justice League cartoon.

 

[Liam_H]

^Very true that the GA would have gravitated more towards John Stewart due to JL cartoon and that he has a different background compared to Hal that is very similar to other heroes. But I still think you can tell interesting stories with Hal (which they failed at miserably) and at the end of the trilogy probably have the ring pass on to Stewart when Hal retires from the Corps.