Green Lantern Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 3

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[HighFivingMF]

Not necessarily. They could just do a different hero. Perhaps a certain Scarlet Speedster who's been said to be in development but has been sidetracked for years?

The article about the GL sequel mentioned Flash's script...

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I think they are going to try to push Green Lantern forward as much as possible even if it doesn't produce a full-fledged movie franchise.

Also... WB will be more determined to try other DC characters in the hope of producing an ongoing franchise, in the wake of Harry Potter, Nolan's Batman and Superman's shaky future.

They are just going to be waaaaaaaaay more restricted with the budgets.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Everyone knows studios say things that don't always come to fruition. But they have the current incarnation of the script and you're implying that they're working on GL2 instead of Flash. They can, and possibly will, do both and at the moment they're working on both.

 

[BatmanInc]

Everyone knows studios say things that don't always come to fruition. But they have the current incarnation of the script and you're implying that they're working on GL2 instead of Flash. They can, and possibly will, do both and at the moment they're working on both.

I'm not saying they are. I'm saying it seems likely that neither will happen when they say they will.

Green Lantern doesn't deserve a sequel, and Flash is getting backtracked all the damn time. Why should I believe that they'll go through with it this time?

Hell, they're filming Man of Steel while the script is being rewritten, apparently.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I'm not saying they are. I'm saying it seems likely that neither will happen when they say they will.

Green Lantern doesn't deserve a sequel, and Flash is getting backtracked all the damn time. Why should I believe that they'll go through with it this time?

Hell, they're filming Man of Steel while the script is being rewritten, apparently.

The majority of Iron Man was not only rewritten but heavily ad-libbed while filming.

So thats not really a big deal...

 

[HighFivingMF]

I'm not saying they are. I'm saying it seems likely that neither will happen when they say they will.

Seems like. You never know.

Green Lantern doesn't deserve a sequel, and Flash is getting backtracked all the damn time. Why should I believe that they'll go through with it this time?

Believe whatever you want.

Hell, they're filming Man of Steel while the script is being rewritten, apparently.

As was said in the Superman thread, only minor touch-ups. The story, characters, and locations are already set. Also, what does that have to do with Green Lantern 2 and The Flash?

"They're never going to make The Flash because there's a writer doing touch-ups on Man of Steel."

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Hell, they're filming Man of Steel while the script is being rewritten, apparently.

That's common with these big movies?

 

[BatmanInc]

Seems like. You never know.

So the fact that they started working on this film five years ago and have gone absolutely nowhere makes it seem like they're going to make it?

Um, yeah. Not exactly giving me confidence in DC.

Hell, DC hasn't even put their three biggest heroes on the big screen yet. Yeah, DC clearly wants to explore their heroes, by not doing one of their most-recognized heroes, Wonder Woman.

FOX explores more with their characters than DC has. At least they make films just to keep the rights, to show they actually care enough about the properties to use them.

DC hasn't made a good non-Batman film that is both financially and critically successful since Superman II. THIRTY YEARS AGO.

At least when Marvel Studios explores lower-tier characters. To the GA, Iron Man and Thor are B-List heroes. Hell, after Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 in 2013, guess who they hope to try out? Doctor Strange. DC, by that point will have....another Superman film, and maybe, if we're lucky, Flash.

And I misread the article about the Superman rewrite. I thought it said it was a complete rewrite. I was thinking about how Joss Whedon said he rewrote Avengers completely after Zak Penn's draft.

 

[HighFivingMF]

So the fact that they started working on this film five years ago and have gone absolutely nowhere makes it seem like they're going to make it?

Um, yeah. Not exactly giving me confidence in DC.

I never said that...

Hell, DC hasn't even put their three biggest heroes on the big screen yet. Yeah, DC clearly wants to explore their heroes, by not doing one of their most-recognized heroes, Wonder Woman.

They've already said they're working on it, but you choose not to believe them... So there's no point in discussing that stuff with you until there's a director and cast.

FOX explores more with their characters than DC has. At least they make films just to keep the rights, to show they actually care enough about the properties to use them.

Good for Fox.

DC hasn't made a good non-Batman film that is both financially and critically successful since Superman II. THIRTY YEARS AGO.

Except Superman Returns is fresh on RT and made more than it's budget.

 

[BatmanInc]

I never said that...


They've already said they're working on it, but you choose not to believe them... So there's no point in discussing that stuff with you until there's a director and cast.

I choose not to believe they're working on it as hard as they say they are because they've said it so many times before. At least with The Hobbit, they said they were having problems with it. I don't recall them saying 'we're writing the film' and then nothing happening, only to say it again every year.

Except Superman Returns is fresh on RT and made more than it's budget.

Okay, financially and critically that was actually liked by fans.

X3 had more action than Superman Returns, for god's sake. Hell, Superman IV was more exciting. At least it had a villain. A crappy, terribly written, bull**** villain, but at least Superman actually did something more exciting than catching a plane.

 

[Willi Berg]

As a Wonder Woman fan, I don't believe it's a priority for Robinov and WB to risk making her movie. It has been reported that he only wants to make a WW movie when her name is more established within a Justice League movie. Same with Aquaman. He's always bringing up JL because he does want to make that before WW.

I think they don't want to make a GL sequel on a smaller scale, with a smaller budget. If anything, they are probably hoping to find a director with a vision on a large scale and I don't see that happening in the near future.

All I see is them biting the bullet and deciding to make Flash next, then seeing how Batman and Superman do before making sequels for them. Anything like a Justice League movie or a GL sequel seem really ambitious and too big to tackle right now.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I just find it odd how WB IMHO hasn't made one good modern comicbook film outside of Nolan's Bat-flicks. I mean their movies haven't even been really, really decent, not even 7 out of 10 decent. And WB is such a good creative studio that there is no reason that Batman should be their only success.

They got the wrong directors for both GL and Superman Returns (I'm looking forward to the Man of Steel and hope that ZS and Nolan create something special. Hopefully MOS isn't added to this list.)

They need to stop getting the wrong directors for these projects and letting out these goofy scripts. They could be on there 3rd Superman film if they got another director/screenwriters and made it a complete reboot. It's frustating to see them reboot Superman 7 f**king years to late.

 

[Willi Berg]

It's too bad WB only seem to be learning lessons after their massive-budget movies are released and turn out to be disappointments. It never seems to be before.

 

[The Sage]

As a Wonder Woman fan, I don't believe it's a priority for Robinov and WB to risk making her movie. It has been reported that he only wants to make a WW movie when her name is more established within a Justice League movie. Same with Aquaman. He's always bringing up JL because he does want to make that before WW.

I think they don't want to make a GL sequel on a smaller scale, with a smaller budget. If anything, they are probably hoping to find a director with a vision on a large scale and I don't see that happening in the near future.

All I see is them biting the bullet and deciding to make Flash next, then seeing how Batman and Superman do before making sequels for them. Anything like a Justice League movie or a GL sequel seem really ambitious and too big to tackle right now.

Agreed. I imagine if Man of Steel does well, that'll determine if they push a Flash movie, and it'll hopefully influence how they approach future movies including a GL one.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

I just find it odd how WB IMHO hasn't made one good modern comicbook film outside of Nolan's Bat-flicks. I mean their movies haven't even been really, really decent, not even 7 out of 10 decent. And WB is such a good creative studio that there is no reason that Batman should be their only success.

WB just has a bizarre idea of what a comic book movie is and should be. IMO they may be a worse force for executive meddling than even Fox, and that's saying a lot.

 

[Willi Berg]

Agreed. I imagine if Man of Steel does well, that'll determine if they push a Flash movie, and it'll hopefully influence how they approach future movies including a GL one.

It is frustrating since WB said GL was the "wait and see" movie in terms of how other properties go. But now we're still in the same situation (if not worse) in terms of seeing how the next property goes before moving forward with the others.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

WB just has a bizarre idea of what a comic book movie is and should be. IMO they may be a worse force for executive meddling than even Fox, and that's saying a lot.

It's sad but that seems to be true. They need to hire a strong director who is right for the peice and like Nolan let him or her do most of what they want to do.

Love or hate Superman Returns that wasn't the right film to make at the time it was released. Singer doesn't have any Superman sensibillites as a director. He's obsessed with moody outcasts and Superman just isn't that. His movies are also somewhat solem affairs, too solem for the Man Of Steel and yet he got the gig and they approved his story idea and let him do whatever he wanted to with the character. I don't blame him for taking on Superman and nor do I think that it's a bad idea to give a director alot of say on his project but it has to be the right director and right project.

I support Snyder but I'm still somewhat worried about him because his films have a violent meanness that I just don't seeing fitting into a true Superman film. But unlike Singer atleast his films have real somewhat bright engery to them that could fit, he's a fine action director and his movies look colorful and pretty. I can see something in him as a director that could fit if all goes well. But Campbell and Singer didn't fit their respective franchise and I don't see how a bunch of millionares who run the company couldn't see that.

I'm not saying that all movies have to hit but either GL or SR should have made some real impact. GL failed at the boxoffice and with critics and moviegoers and Superman Returns, although succeeding with critics and actually grossing a not bad 200mil in 2006 failed with half of it's viewers and made sequel prospects dicey.

As much as I b**ch and will continue to about Marvel's medicore to bad output I'd still take Captain America, TIH, Iron Man and maybe Thor ever so slightly over GL. GL is exactly like Batman Forever and Batman and Robin in thats it's a happy meal movie with no soul what-so-ever.

Imagine if they got somebody who gave a damn? Even if they weren't a fan of the character they would want to make an amazing peice all the same and were adept at handling the extreme sci fi trappings. Imagine if they actually hired the very talented Ryan Reynolds to play a character instead of himself?

It's sad because they don't even know why GL failed. They think it failed because it wasn't like TDK but thats not the case. GL shouldn't be like TDK or like Iron Man, it should be it's own film and the sooner WB realizes that the better off they will be.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

The majority of Iron Man was not only rewritten but heavily ad-libbed while filming.

So thats not really a big deal...

Iron Man also had Robert Downey Jr and Jeff Bridges, so they could get away with it.

Man of Steel doesn't.

 

[Octoberist]

WB just has a bizarre idea of what a comic book movie is and should be. IMO they may be a worse force for executive meddling than even Fox, and that's saying a lot.

I know that Jeff Robinov of Warner Bros isn't the greatest speaker - which has been documented by the LA Times - but he just sounds dumb. Edgar Wright and Duncan Jones made fun of his 'darker' and 'edgier' comment because it's just a cliche thing to say. What the heck does edgy mean anymore in Hollywood? Contrived and pandering is more like it.

I like WB and Robinov overall but they sound like your grandparents trying to define 'hip hop' to another old person.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I just find it odd how WB IMHO hasn't made one good modern comicbook film outside of Nolan's Bat-flicks. I mean their movies haven't even been really, really decent, not even 7 out of 10 decent. And WB is such a good creative studio that there is no reason that Batman should be their only success.

They got the wrong directors for both GL and Superman Returns (I'm looking forward to the Man of Steel and hope that ZS and Nolan create something special. Hopefully MOS isn't added to this list.)

They need to stop getting the wrong directors for these projects and letting out these goofy scripts. They could be on there 3rd Superman film if they got another director/screenwriters and made it a complete reboot. It's frustating to see them reboot Superman 7 f**king years to late.

People on this website know that (how you feel about DC Comics movies in general), it's no secret.

 

[S.A.A.D.]

I know that Jeff Robinov of Warner Bros isn't the greatest speaker - which has been documented by the LA Times - but he just sounds dumb. Edgar Wright and Duncan Jones made fun of his 'darker' and 'edgier' comment because it's just a cliche thing to say. What the heck does edgy mean anymore in Hollywood? Contrived and pandering is more like it.

I like WB and Robinov overall but they sound like your grandparents trying to define 'hip hop' to another old person.

Edgar and Duncan shouldn't talk, because imo, they haven't made jack **** that is actually worth watching. I'll give the two of them a break once they finally make what I think is a watchable movie. Something that actually looks and sounds entertaining.

 

[MadVillainy]

People on this website know that (how you feel about DC Comics movies in general), it's no secret.

classic SAAD

Edgar and Duncan shouldn't talk, because imo, they haven't made jack **** that is actually worth watching. I'll give the two of them a break once they finally make what I think is a watchable movie. Something that actually looks and sounds entertaining.

Edgar Wright made Shaun of the Dead which was critically and commercially successful as well as Hot Fuzz which is another hit for him

Duncan Jones has made Moon which was critically acclaimed and Source Code which was critically acclaimed and commercially successful. And Jones has been pursued for both Man of Steel and The Wolverine

So yeah I would say they've made "jack ****" that many find to be worth watching.

 

[Man in the Suit]

Edgar and Duncan shouldn't talk, because imo, they haven't made jack **** that is actually worth watching.

Are you kidding me?