Hackers to Ashley Madison website: Pay up or we reveal the name of all your cheaters!

[terry78]

Except playing video games isn't cheating on your spouse. No one is going to be shocked to find out that I play video games.

I would not want my porn stash outed. Just leave it at that.

 

[Grievous]

I don't pity them in fact I like that the hackers are doing this. Yes I said privacy being violated isn't right but I meant that more as privacy in general. Still doesn't change me from supporting this.

 

[KevanG]

I think to would be hilarious if over 90% of the people on there are single and just looking to hook up and used being in a fictional relationship to get some.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I would not want my porn stash outed. Just leave it at that.

Oh my God, a guy on the interwebs is is looking at pr0n! Stop the presses!

You and the state of Utah, my friend.

 

[terry78]

It's quite unorthodox.

 

[James]

Terry, you monster.

 

[Marvolo]

I don't pity them in fact I like that the hackers are doing this. Yes I said privacy being violated isn't right but I meant that more as privacy in general. Still doesn't change me from supporting this.

I doubt you support people being murdered because they committed an affair. Husbands and wives harm and kill spouses over an affair. Its not the hackers place to put anyone who commits an affair in harms way.

Once again we have social justice warriors and essentially mob justice being dealt out with no context or information about why these people are cheating, how they are using the site, and no consideration of the life destroying consequences that their actions will mete out.

If a cheating spouse gets caught due to their own stupidity that is on them, but having their private information illegally hacked and spread across the world wide web resulting in potential life threatening harm is wrong and not justice. And some spouses legitimately do not want to know if their spouse is cheating. Theyd rather live in ignorant happiness than know for sure. For those people their lives are about to be turned upside down.

Also, Im willing to bet that some swingers use these sights. So these couples who have entirely open marriages who use these sights will have their private information uploaded on the web. Imagine what will happen if they have young kids, if that info gets back to the kid's school, if that info gets back to their employer's, or their less open minded family and friends.

What these hackers are doing isnt justice. Its dangerous.

 

[tzarinna]

First time I heard about this site was from a friend who had an open marriage. That was almost 10 years ago. I do find it odd that AM is so in your face about their existence.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I dunno man. Going on a site dedicated to cheating, and giving all your personal information... that's pretty stupid. I also think you then, at least morally, you deserve what you have coming to you.

I think cheating is bad enough if it's a one time thing. A crime of passion so to speak. But if you actually premeditate it to the point that you sign up to a website which exists solely to facilitate cheating, then, you really have no moral defense.

So, yeah. I'll play a tiny violin for them.

 

[James]

I dunno man. Going on a site dedicated to cheating, and giving all your personal information... that's pretty stupid. I also think you then, at least morally, you deserve what you have coming to you.

I think cheating is bad enough if it's a one time thing. A crime of passion so to speak. But if you actually premeditate it to the point that you sign up to a website which exists solely to facilitate cheating, then, you really have no moral defense.

So, yeah. I'll play a tiny violin for them.

Do their children deserve to be bullied?

I'm using an extreme example, but as I said in my original post (and as Marvolo has also talked about here) the consequences of such information being released are potentially much worse than a few cheaters getting their spouses mad at them. Let's say a person's information is released to the public, and the kids at this person's school learn about it -they then go about bullying said person's kid because their mum or dad was using a website to (allegedly) get sex.

And that's just one possibility. Cheating isn't cool, I don't think anyone here is saying it is. The situation isn't about moral defense, it's about the huge amount of potential harm that could come about to not just the people using the website, but those close to them as well.

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

I love how conservatives were all up in arms about how the gays were going to ruin the sanctity of marriage yet this site had 37 million registered users

 

[Thundercrack85]

Do their children deserve to be bullied?

I'm using an extreme example, but as I said in my original post (and as Marvolo has also talked about here) the consequences of such information being released are potentially much worse than a few cheaters getting their spouses mad at them. Let's say a person's information is released to the public, and the kids at this person's school learn about it -they then go about bullying said person's kid because their mum or dad was using a website to (allegedly) get sex.

And that's just one possibility. Cheating isn't cool, I don't think anyone here is saying it is. The situation isn't about moral defense, it's about the huge amount of potential harm that could come about to not just the people using the website, but those close to them as well.

Isn't that rather farfetched? Maybe times have changed, but I never give any thought about my classmate's parents' sex life. I never met any of them except my personal friends. I mean, how are bullies even going to make that connection? Even if for some reason they release pictures with names, it's not like kids are going to be scrolling through them in hopes of finding someone's dad or mom.

I'm not saying this is a good thing. I'm just saying I find it hard to sympathize.

I think people have a right to privacy. I think they should be able to watch porn. Couples should be able to send each other nude photos if they want. All that is fine and dandy, and I don't judge people for that. I don't think they should be fired, or penalized, or whatever.

But cheating? No. They can go **** themselves.

 

[James]

Isn't that rather farfetched? Maybe times have changed, but I never give any thought about my classmate's parents' sex life. I never met any of them except my personal friends. I mean, how are bullies even going to make that connection? Even if for some reason they release pictures with names, it's not like kids are going to be scrolling through them in hopes of finding someone's dad or mom.

I'm not saying this is a good thing. I'm just saying I find it hard to sympathize.

I think people have a right to privacy. I think they should be able to watch porn. Couples should be able to send each other nude photos if they want. All that is fine and dandy, and I don't judge people for that. I don't think they should be fired, or penalized, or whatever.

But cheating? No. They can go **** themselves.

I did say it was an extreme example, and so is Marvolo's murder scenario. They could both happen, but yes they are far fetched. The specific examples were made to make a point though, which is that you (nor I) can fathom the fallout of such information being released. People will get hurt, potentially people who had nothing to do with it. It's something I feel the hackers, and people supporting them, aren't taking into account -innocent people will suffer too, and not just the immediately wronged parties.

 

[KevanG]

I love how conservatives were all up in arms about how the gays were going to ruin the sanctity of marriage yet this site had 37 million registered users

Obviously the gay hackers forced them to do it.

 

[Sawyer]

People need dating sites to find other people to cheat on their spouses with?

Is that not what bars are for?

 

[Soapy]

No, you're thinking of Facebook.

 

[KevanG]

I thought FB was just for stalking?

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Maaaaaaaaaaaaan **** society.

 

[KevanG]

I just go by the idea that everyone is an idiot in their own way and it makes things much more understandable when stuff like this happens.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I did say it was an extreme example, and so is Marvolo's murder scenario. They could both happen, but yes they are far fetched. The specific examples were made to make a point though, which is that you (nor I) can fathom the fallout of such information being released. People will get hurt, potentially people who had nothing to do with it. It's something I feel the hackers, and people supporting them, aren't taking into account -innocent people will suffer too, and not just the immediately wronged parties.

Oh I'm sure. But in the grand scheme of things happening on this planet, I honestly can't be moved to care about the hypothetical family problems of a rather determined adulterer.

 

[Marvolo]

I dunno man. Going on a site dedicated to cheating, and giving all your personal information... that's pretty stupid. I also think you then, at least morally, you deserve what you have coming to you.

I think cheating is bad enough if it's a one time thing. A crime of passion so to speak. But if you actually premeditate it to the point that you sign up to a website which exists solely to facilitate cheating, then, you really have no moral defense.

So, yeah. I'll play a tiny violin for them.

No more stupid than giving personal information on any site, but due to moral and social stigmas we perceive this as being more stupid when it's really no different. In both cases a person is putting personal information on the web and on company servers that could be used to harm them.

As for cheating, I don't see it as a black and white issue. Marital affairs are grey. People get married too young, get stuck in a bad marriage and can't afford divorce, or have kids and don't want to divorce for the kid's sake, grow apart from their spouse, can no longer please their spouse sexually, some people are just lonely even in marriage and want to feel wanted etc. And I get why most spouses engaged in affairs sneak around rather than asking permission. Even broaching the subject of having other partners can make an already unstable marriage worse or cause a break. And beyond a certain age being single is a terrifying prospect. I do think under ideal circumstances the right thing to do would be to discuss it with one's spouse, but circumstances can vary.

People that have a fetish for married people and repeatedly act on it, or a married person that enjoys the thrill of cheating obviously aren't good people but some people who have or are cheating aren't the scrum of the earth. And no I don't expect everyone to share this view.

As for the murder scenario, it's not as far fetched as y'all might think. Spouses can turn violent. Especially over an affair. Near my area a soldier was doing his tour of Iraq and his wife cheated on him. He found out and waited for his opportunity. His tour was over. He came home and he found the guy she slept with and stabbed him to death and cut the guy's head off. That's an extreme case, but when you're dealing with a website with potentially thousands of members you're dealing with a large group of humans who will react in a variety of different ways to finding out that their spouse is cheating on them. And news articles have been posted on here about angry women cutting their husbands penis off, shooting their spouse,stabbing their spouse etc. And consider what would happen if an already abusive spouse finds out that his wife is cheating on him.

So yeah these hackers are putting people in danger. Even if only one member of that site is physically harmed because of these hackers that is one person too many imo. And it can be argued that they got themselves into this situation but like I said not everyone who cheats does it is a scumbag and even if they are they don't deserve to be put in harm's way by hackers. If they are going to be punished it should be in a court of law not by hackers with certain morals.

 

[James]

Oh I'm sure. But in the grand scheme of things happening on this planet, I honestly can't be moved to care about the hypothetical family problems of a rather determined adulterer.

Not caring and showing support are two different things. The people showing support for the hackers are encouraging this behavior where innocent people can be harmed as a result -which is what I was trying to illustrate; maybe supporting these people isn't so good when it's thought through a little more.

If you're not bothered about the situation one way or the other, it's not a big deal -I'm not really fussed what happens either. My interest in this goes as far as trying to explain to the hacker-supporters, hey folks, maybe it's not as cool as it first appears.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

But James, it's far cooler to be a social justice warrior on the web, it's hype to be judgmental about stuff that doesn't concern you, damn be the consequences since it will have no impact on "me".
The equation is as simple as these people mind : cheating bad ergo it's fine to break privacy law.
This holier than thou attitude sicken me.

 

[DeadPresident]

'Innocent'.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

But James, it's far cooler to be a social justice warrior on the web, it's hype to be judgmental about stuff that doesn't concern you, damn be the consequences since it will have no impact on "me".
The equation is as simple as these people mind : cheating bad ergo it's fine to break privacy law.
This holier than thou attitude sicken me.

Yeah, those stupid social justic warriors who want everyone to have equal rights.

What a bunch of morons.