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That reminds me...when Theron's character says, "they keep coming after us", I got the feeling that it was intentionl....like either she is well aware that fate, or evil gods, send people after them, or that for some reason humanity is drawn to kill them when possible.
 
The thing is in the version i saw, they mentioned nothing about names as far as i remember, didnt you see an earlier version which had less cuts? So it wasnt an issue in the screening i saw.




Hancock wasnt always coming and going, he still had immense strength left in the hospital, he flung a hospital bed like it was a spoon and they are HEAVY, and he was right next to Mary when he did it. She left after initial attack 80 years ago so he could heal so heal, and so he wouldnt die, he returned the favour in the hospital at the end.

well thats very good that they cut out the naming of gods they represented then.

he was coming and going (as in he wasnt always hanging around mary 24/7 in present day. and he still had immense strength because of that (that was my point i was saying). And your stating the obvious ;) i dont think you understood the point i was making lol.
 
I would assume that they, and those of their kind, have been the various "gods" of different cultures throughout time. As for your argument that Isis and Artemis are two very different gods; Although this might be true, people can view the same thing very differently. The Sun was considered a god also, and you can see how many forms Sun Gods have taken in various cultures throughout history, but all are based on the same object.

the sun is not a living being with abilities though. it's like making the sun god someone who worships the frost.

In Greek mythology, Artemis [(Greek: (nominative) Ἄρτεμις, (genitive) Ἀρτέμιδος)] was the daughter of Zeus and Leto, and the twin sister of Apollo. She was the Hellenic goddess of forests and hills, and was often depicted as a huntress carrying a bow and arrows.[1] The deer and the cypress were sacred to her. In later, Hellenistic times she even assumed the ancient role of Eileithyia in aiding childbirth.

Artemis was one of the most widely venerated of the gods and one of the oldest (Burkert 1985, 149). Her later association with the moon is a popular idea which has little foundation. She later became identified with Selene,[2] a Titaness who was a Greek moon goddess, and she was sometimes depicted with a crescent moon above her head. She also became identified with the Roman goddess Diana[3] and with the Etruscan goddess, Artume. [4]

Isis is a goddess in Ancient Egyptian mythology and is celebrated as the ideal mother and wife, patron of nature and magic; friend of slaves, sinners, artisans, the downtrodden, as well as listening to the prayers of the wealthy, the maiden, the aristocrat and emperor.[1] In union with her husband and brother Osiris she conceived Horus. Isis was instrumental in the resurrection of Osiris when he was murdered by Seth. The goddess Isis was the first daughter of Geb, god of the Earth, and Nut, the goddess of the Overarching Sky, and was born on the fourth intercalary day.[2]

She is also known as the goddess of simplicity, from whom all Beginnings arose, and as the Lady of bread, of beer and of green fields. Ancient Egyptians believed that the Nile flooded every year because of her tears of sorrow for her dead husband, Osiris


she fits Isis's description very well.. but Artemis was the part that through me for a loop, because i know my greek mythology pretty decently.
 
That reminds me...when Theron's character says, "they keep coming after us", I got the feeling that it was intentionl....like either she is well aware that fate, or evil gods, send people after them, or that for some reason humanity is drawn to kill them when possible.

I left it alone,... Thinking "They" would be explained in a sequel.

A good thought would be a race of "Demi-Gods" decendants of the full bloods like Hancock who age normally and only have select abilities or weakened versions of Han***** powers.

They have been around as long as Hancock and are a secret society which constantly recruits lost descendants of "the Gods".

Their Goals include gaining immortality by finding "Gods" and tearing them apart to see how they work and to a lesser degree their breeding program.

Han***** primary foe could be an Old man born somewhere in the 1800's who is a better fighter. (Not as strong or fast mind you - but he has fighting Skillz that allow him to whoop on Hancock.)

Too bad the Producer for the Sequel won't see this,...

V.
 
the sun is not a living being with abilities though. it's like making the sun god someone who worships the frost.

Okay, now you're just being obtuse.

Let's put it this way: Thunder and Lightning becomes the work of Zeus, the King of the Gods, as per the early Greeks. The same becomes the work of Thor, son of Odin (using Mjolnir, of course), for the early Norwegians.

The same thing. VERY Different takes.

It's even more plausible, in the Hancock universe, since the "object" being worshipped as a God, can actually talk, and invent her own backstory that she can then use to disguise the fact that she's someone else, somewhere else. Either that, or people can dream up the stories for her, and she can just choose to not deny them.
 
Okay, now you're just being obtuse.

Let's put it this way: Thunder and Lightning becomes the work of Zeus, the King of the Gods, as per the early Greeks. The same becomes the work of Thor, son of Odin (using Mjolnir, of course), for the early Norwegians.

The same thing. VERY Different takes.

It's even more plausible, in the Hancock universe, since the "object" being worshipped as a God, can actually talk, and invent her own backstory that she can then use to disguise the fact that she's someone else, somewhere else. Either that, or people can dream up the stories for her, and she can just choose to not deny them.

my point of discussion is Mary saying she was known as Artemis and Isis... Mary's known abilities are strength, invulnerability, and doesn't age. (These are givin qualities of a god i'd say) but her weather controlling ability, and the unexplained heat ability that pops the popcorn when her and Hancock join together doesn't realllllly go with her god description. Isis suits her just fine, but Artemis not at all... Artemis is not a reserved god who runsaway... she is the goddess of the hunt after all. She enjoys the chase. Your zeus comparison, while making sense, doesn't really compare to Mary and her gods she was called.
 
my point of discussion is Mary saying she was known as Artemis and Isis... Mary's known abilities are strength, invulnerability, and doesn't age. (These are givin qualities of a god i'd say) but her weather controlling ability, and the unexplained heat ability that pops the popcorn when her and Hancock join together doesn't realllllly go with her god description. Isis suits her just fine, but Artemis not at all... Artemis is not a reserved god who runsaway... she is the goddess of the hunt after all. She enjoys the chase. Your zeus comparison, while making sense, doesn't really compare to Mary and her gods she was called.

You still don't get it. You're still equating God Power A to Mary Power B, etc. What I am telling you, people have embellished on what their chosen god can or cannot do.

Mayans used to worship their kings as gods. Think about that. HUMANS as gods. Do you think these humans remotely match what the people who worshipped them have assigned as their "abilities" or "personalities?"

I get it now.

People who do not enjoy this movie are stuck in their own paradigms, and therefore are unable to mold themselves to this movie. You want the movie to conform to you, or what you expect instead.

Where I see possibilities as far as their backstories go, you see inconsistencies. Explains a lot.
 
You still don't get it. You're still equating God Power A to Mary Power B, etc. What I am telling you, people have embellished on what their chosen god can or cannot do.

Mayans used to worship their kings as gods. Think about that. HUMANS as gods. Do you think these humans remotely match what the people who worshipped them have assigned as their "abilities" or "personalities?"

I get it now.

People who do not enjoy this movie are stuck in their own paradigms, and therefore are unable to mold themselves to this movie. You want the movie to conform to you, or what you expect instead.

Where I see possibilities as far as their backstories go, you see inconsistencies. Explains a lot.

same exact thing can be said for you, but your molding the movie to make sense to you.

i see alot of confusion and "thrown in" info thats not very well thought out. I can't really explain it much more... i mean yeah i totally get the concept as "people" as gods... so not sure why your going there.. and can easily see 2 gods representing the same "ability" being really the same guy, with just a different name... but Isis and Artemisis really have nothing alike other then the fact there women. and who we know mary to be, doesn't fit at all into Artemis's depiction in history.
 
same exact thing can be said for you, but your molding the movie to make sense to you.

Its called interpretation. Its an ok thing to do especially with most fiction. Im sure over millions o years of passing on these "stories" and translating them to however many languages, certain details get lost or changed
 
I think people are looking way too deep into a popcorn movie.
 
I think the fact that this isn't based on an earlier comic, we're forcing ourselves to give it a backstory.
 
And the moment of clear convo on topic is over as others come in to insult individuals for enjoying the film,...

Oh well.
 
Ha ha, just making myself a coffee now, but i'll still take the donut!



Dont have a clue how to do them, sorry, try Rezzo or Hunter Rider.

I'll check with them thanks!

As far as Hancock and Charlize being hurt and pursued by humans throughout history, I took it as it was their fate. Fate and Destiny caused humans to come after them and hurt them in either random acts of violence or in mobs, battles, and/or wars throughout history. It was there fate that brought them together and it was fate that bad things happened to them.

Think of it as a consequence of having superpowers. 1) They could never be fully powered or immortal if they decide to pursue their love and 2) They could never necessarily live in peace and love with each other because Karma would eventually come after them, as it was just plain fate.

The filmmakers should have explained it more this way IMO [now that I think of it] because if they had it would have made their love for each other and the reason why things have happened a lot sadder and easier to accept.

Basically, they are cursed if they stay apart because they can not fill the empty void that is to be with their other halves. AND they are cursed if they are together because can they can no longer be immortal and/or live in peace.

This really would have made their existence sadder rather than amazing compared to a normal human life as many of us think how cool it would be to have super powers, not realizing the consequences.
 
...but Isis and Artemisis really have nothing alike other then the fact there women. and who we know mary to be, doesn't fit at all into Artemis's depiction in history.

Oh my ****ing god, man. I am well and truly exasperated with your utter *insert pejorative here*. You keep sitting there beating the dead horse that "Mary doesn't fit Artemis." Well guess what? Mary doesn't even fit MARY. At least the Mary that Ray has known all these years.

Did you ever watch either Stargate The Movie or either Stargate TV series? Were the "gods" that each Go'auld played EVER exactly like the gods that were depicted in history?

Have you ever played the little game, where people will pass something said to each person in a whisper? Notice how different the message received by the last person was, in relation to the original message? Imagine that spanning hundreds of years (the length each civilization worshipped each god, before they perished), and thousands of people.
 
I think people are looking way too deep into a popcorn movie.

Exactly. They're called the cast/crew :woot:

But seriously, when the movie shifts geers, they scramble and imo fail at explaining the past. This doesn't mean I didn't get it (I got it), but the attempted explanation created a disjointed film. All I wanted was a jerk superhero whom redeems himself & have some popcorn fun. Instead, they went a whole other direction with the film's 2nd half.
 
I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I didn't like the movie until his past came up. Once everything came out I thought the movie got immensely better. I hope that they make a sequel, because I really want them to explore the whole god aspect and what they are further.
 
This was a cool movie, more story next time and less action that means nothing.
 
even if there is a sequel we will have to wait at least 5 years.
 
Well you know, I'm sure we'll be doing more than sitting around waiting for the next hancock for the next five years...
i am just saying. this is will smith. he has every year a movie. and he likes to do new stuff.
 
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