A Necessary Evil
One. Bad. Day.
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oh okay. I was about to say...lol
God that makes me plain old giddy! I hope we get a DC when the final film is released on ONE Blu-ray.
There's the hand shake that some people disliked about not being in the movie.
I am gladded they filmed it. I was making a point about people dissing Yates about not getting Harry Potter and butchering the books...well he filmed it.
Got my copy of the OST today. After listening to it -- I honestly consider Desplat a huge upgrade from Nicholas Hooper and can't see why some fans prefer Hooper over the new guy. Hooper's score was nice underscore in OOTP and HBP and occasionally rose above that, but Desplat took it so much further. Now I wish Desplat had scored OOTP and HBP too.
It was a necessary loss to the overall movie, but I'm glad both the handshake and the thing with Petunia are in the deleted scenes. I loved those scenes too much to never see them.
Why were these necessary loses?
Because, like Doctor Jones said, it would've disrupted the flow of the opening Harry/Hermione/Ron montage.
I liked Desplat more than Hooper, but I really don't see why people considered his music garbage.
I think people were still ill about Desplat since he worked on a Twilight film and dumped Carter Burwell's theme for his own themes. Not to mention some of them were apprehensive that Desplat was going to do the same with Deathly Hallows, which wasn't going to happen anyway. (And a lot of them were getting used to a third composer working on the series.)
I think Desplat is one of the best rising composers on the Hollywood scene. Hopefully, after HP is done, he'll do a superhero film next.
Probably Part 2, just like thedeath of pettigrew.
Oh, and deleted scenes aren't the only thing to watch out for.
- EXTRAS on BD:
Maximum Movie Mode: Voldemorts Secrets
Sneak Peek: First scene of HP7.2 (TBC)
Behind the Soundtrack
The Flight of the Seven Harrys
Exploring Godrics Hollow
The Women of Harry Potter
Rupert Grint: Not Your Average Guy
Join the Cast at the WWoHP Grand Opening
Additional Scenes
i love reviews from this site, they are very lengthy and really breakdown every aspect of the score.To summarize Hooper's music for The Order of the Phoenix as disappointing is a disservice to the fact that his achievement for the franchise was adequately functional. But that score remains a disappointment because of the legacy created by John Williams and decently emulated by Patrick Doyle previously for the concept. Simply put, Hooper's score wasn't comparable to the emotional depth or orchestral mastery of the first four scores. His work was sufficient but not memorable. Large but not resounding. Careful but not precise. In short, Hooper earned his paycheck. When you're dealing with a franchise that is grounded in the sonic spirit of Williams, however, simply earning a paycheck is not enough. Doyle realized this dilemma when he expanded the scope of the soundscape in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, and if only he had better integrated Williams' original material, he could have matched the maestro in terms of overall quality for the realm of Hogwarts. Hooper doesn't earn style points in either regard. He, for the most part, continues to disregard Williams' material and, unlike Doyle, doesn't replace it with a powerful enough new identity to compete with it or compliment it. Thus, in the end, Hooper's music has to be classified as a disappointment. This not only applies to The Order of the Phoenix, but to The Half-Blood Prince as well. Most of the same problems that inhabited the fifth score are pivotal factors in the sixth. These include the lack of truly dominant thematic presence, leaving this score as bereft of an identity as the previous one.
You're not alone Snape, I very much enjoyed Hooper's music. Love this track:
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dude i think you are, but don't get me wrong either, there are moments in both of Hooper's scores that I loved. There just aren't enough of them.
I think every composer after Williams strayed too far away from what some would call well established source material to work from as far as music. I can understand each composer feeling like they wanted to create their own identity and interpretation of this world for their scores but I just think the biggest mistake all of em made was not incorporating Williams stuff. So even though I really liked Doyle's and Desplat's scores, their homages to JW are too subtle and Hoopers stuff just comes in last place for me out of all the scores as a whole. Again, loved some of his more memorable moments in both OotP and HBP but considering the stuff that came before his take on HP he just wasn't the best guy for the job. He didn't really "advance" the music for these movies, he took it down a notch and it just wasn't a good match for the movies. His best bit imo in HBP was the quidditch game and brewing living death potion. Those two and maybe Harry and Hermoines talk were the ones that get stuck in my head the most and I think they are wonderful additions to the entire catalog of music we've been from every one of the movies.