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Discussion in 'Misc. Comics Films' started by The Overlord, Jan 17, 2008.
Has Akira Toriyama said anything about the movie?
Not recently - I believe that he had his creative influence removed from the project a little while ago though No idea what he thinks about the current plot and actors etc. I'd like to find out though!
He was given the boot from the project a few years ago... I think it's a slightly good thing because he admitted himself he doesn't remember much about Dragon ball and much of it was written off the top of his head.
no way...really? lol
Not surprised. He's gettin' old.
dude's not that old. he's 52...
...imo, not having Akira Toriyama involved at all is a mistake. i know he might've forgotten some of the story and the characters, but he's still the originator and anytime you make adaptation you should try to get as close to the source as possible. if anything, he would've provided some much needed visual inspiration.
I don't see what him being involved would do.. not like Stan Lee had much input on all the marvel flicks.
as i said...it would have provided some much needed visual inspiration. as for Stan Lee, he's an 85 y/o former comic book WRITER. there's little he could contribute to the Marvel movies than what he's contributed through his work at Marvel. Akira Toriyama, however, is still an active artist.
Quit being a negative nancy and try to at least enjoy the fact that the movie is even being made. There are always sequels
Chow & Co. aren't deviating too far from the manga/anime look. They are remaining faithful... while putting their own take on the details.
Besides, if I wanted this movie to mimic the source material to a T, I'd go watch the anime and not bother with a live action interpretation.
This is what i said to every people that want a copy of the anime in live movie, i mean why see a history that I allready know, give me something base on that but also give me something new.
Of course that does not mean any new thing is good, but that is the hope.
i'm so tired of the "you should be glad it's even being made in the first place" type of comments. with everything we know about this film so far, i'd rather they not have made it at all.
another post i have to at. if that's your logic, then they shouldn't have even bothered with Batman Begins, Lord of the Rings, Sin City, 300, or A History of Violence.
None of those you cited mimicked the source material to a T.
The diferent is that all of those were books make into movies,they were never animated before, DB was made and animated allready from the manga.
You are correct in your concerns, and I hope you are wrong about your predictions, but nothing that you can say will change the fact that the movie is made the way is being make now.
I ask if all your concerns and predictions are confirm, are you still Going to watch the movie?
nothing is mimicked to a T, but i never said that they should mimick DB to a T. however, those movies were undeniably faithful up to at LEAST 90%.....while this movie looks to be more around 50 to 60%. regardless of the faithfulness, it still would've been nice to have Toriyama around if anything to add more legitimacy to the production. after all, none of the people involved have expressed that they were avid fans of the cartoon before taking on this project.
i'll see it just because it's Dragon Ball related and the stunt team should be able to cook up some great fights....but i'm gonna go into this movie the way i went into watching AvP, with the mindset that the only thing worth watching will be the action scenes.
Where are you getting the 50-60%? What exactly has been changed rather than the gi? (which was hardly altered).
the fact that it's taking place in a semi-realistic world with no talking animals, no dinosaurs and no traveling cloud already takes away at LEAST 10% of the faithfulness. no Krillin is another 5%, no signature long spikey hair and Goku being in high school takes away a crap load. if they don't incorporate oozaru that's even MORE faithfulness taken away and it's questionable how they're going to handle the dragon itself.
so as much as they're being faithful, they're also not. you just have to look...
Absent anthropomorphicism is a 1% in my book. The Dragonball story can stand alone without them. Krillin was rather important as a side-kick friend to Goku... but if they don't include him, no sweat off my sack personally. The way they do the H.S. will be a new incorporation that in no way will detract from the aim of Dragonball. It's basically an outlet for the love interest/crush Chi Chi.
well if that's how you think, then you have less expectations or standards of faithfulness, but none-the-less there are a lot of elements from the anime and manga that are either being left out or changed for the live action film. considering movies like Underworld, King Kong, Chronicles of Narnia and Hellboy can be made now-a-days, there's no reason they can't bring ALL of the DBZ world to the big screen other than lack of vision.
You're an adaptation perfectionist. That fringe group will always be in for assloads of disappointment. As far as I'm concerned, your complaints are based on absolutely nothing.
nothing wrong with being a perfectionist. can you honestly say you'd be disappointed if they made a decent live action Dragon Ball movie that incorporated everything that was covered in the shows?
once again....check out those movies i listed. those are FAR from disappointments. in fact, i've only been disappointed with a few of the recent adaptations. most of them have been solid. this one being an acception...
actually...they're based on this movie being half-assed and rushed, but luckily, for me, i could care less what you're concerned about.
All your opinions after that were worthless.
In this case, I'm replying to carry on a discussion. Initially I was testing to see just how narrow you were.
Shoving things into a movie just to have them there, like arbitrary and whimsical things, is one of the worst mistakes a writer/producer/director can make. George Lucas is an example that comes to mind.
Obviously we'll need characters and subjects in the movie that aren't completely needed, but are there to give the movie substance. And that's okay. But if you overdo that method it will cloud the focus. Talking animals, freakishly long DBZ hair translated into reality, etc. fall under that category.
You asked me if I'd be disappointed if they incorporated everything from the anime into a live action movie. I would be, to an extent. I want to watch this movie to discover Dragonball again, from a new aspect, a new vantage point, and that's less likely to happen if it's 100% anime turned into live action.