Has anyone really tried to cure the Hulk?

[Sundancer]

Instead of blasting him into space, haven't any of the big guns tried curing him--Tony Stark, Reed Richard, Dr. Strange etc.?

 

[3dman27]

many times it never works out for long though

 

[Red Mask]

Yeah, it's always failure, failure, failure.

 

[November Rain]

There probably is a definitive cure out there.

It'd be nice if it was known by the leader or dr doom or someone along those linnes

similar to how ultimate doom knows how to revert the experiment which gave them their powers but will never tell reed.

 

[Elijya]

I've always wondered this a little bit more about the Thing. Supposedly, Reed's been working on a cure for him since the FF formed, over a decade ago in their time. Reed can seemingly invent ANYTHING in less than 20 minutes, but he can't figure this out? And it's not like he doesn't have leads - on several occasions, Thing has found cures, or ways of switching to human form at will. Reed can't duplicate these things? What a moron.

Here's one: we've seen at least one story arc where Reed invented a device that allows the FF to switch powers. If Reed's really so tormented about the situation, why doesn't he just use that every once in awhile to let Ben have an afternoon with Alicia as human, and Reed can be the Thing for a few hours?

 

[November Rain]

I think the writers have made crazy stories in the past to sell comics but haven't realised that the inventions they have made reed make could serve as substitutes for temporarily dealing with ben's status.

similarly with the hulk.

I mean in onslaught, wasn't a blow caused by a really hard punch enough to cause banner and the hulk to separate?

or did banner gain another hulk persona after that, can't quite remember.

 

[Alex Summers]

I think the writers have made crazy stories in the past to sell comics but haven't realised that the inventions they have made reed make could serve as substitutes for temporarily dealing with ben's status.

similarly with the hulk.

I mean in onslaught, wasn't a blow caused by a really hard punch enough to cause banner and the hulk to separate?

or did banner gain another hulk persona after that, can't quite remember.

They separated.

 

[November Rain]

but did he gain another persona?

i remember there might have been a fight between two separate hulk entities at one point

edit:according to this article, i was right, separating them out really had no effect and banner still had a hulk persona (infact a much stronger one).

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?i...?q=heroes+reborn&svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&safe=off

 

[CBG]

Well. . . Reed with the Infinity Gauntlet had his chance in Illuminati #2.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I've always wondered this a little bit more about the Thing. Supposedly, Reed's been working on a cure for him since the FF formed, over a decade ago in their time. Reed can seemingly invent ANYTHING in less than 20 minutes, but he can't figure this out? And it's not like he doesn't have leads - on several occasions, Thing has found cures, or ways of switching to human form at will. Reed can't duplicate these things? What a moron.

Here's one: we've seen at least one story arc where Reed invented a device that allows the FF to switch powers. If Reed's really so tormented about the situation, why doesn't he just use that every once in awhile to let Ben have an afternoon with Alicia as human, and Reed can be the Thing for a few hours?

They've done several stories about Ben pretty much choosing to be the Thing in spite of a chance to be normal again. He knows he can help more people as the Thing, and he's too good a person to just dash that all away for personal happiness.

Probably a better story at this point might be if Ben returned to human form but somehow retained his super-strength. I don't think that's happened before, and I'd be interested in seeing how he deals with having both the ability to help people on the same level as when he's the Thing and some personal happiness.

 

[ElectroFlare]

Wasn't there a story arc that revealed that any cure for the Thing will not be permanent because he is more interesting that way? I didn't read it myself, but have heard of it on the boards...sounded a little hokey to me...

 

[Manic]

I remember when Reed invented the machine that allowed them to switch powers. Reed was willing to become the new Thing, but Ben told him not to because the rocky skin wouldn't allow him to feel the hugs of his own children or something like that.

Basically, Ben wants to stay the Thing. Reed's the only one trippin.

 

[storyteller]

Many times has bruce been cured but for one reason another they never try it twice nor does he decide to say screw it. I remember his power was drained by those mole people and he was rendered powerless. He chose to take the power back so the mole people would be accused of the destruction(they were all fine by the way, they werent violent but they all looked like the hulk). I think banner has used up the cure excuse. Because every time he is cured, as opposed to letting someone else deal with it he takes back the power and has a field day with it. At least they dropped the well written arc where nightmare had played with his memories(where bruce actually had enough control of the hulk and there werent a billion personalities running around) then this current hulk would have made no sense.


But yeah he's been cured multiple time and well Banner has f'ed up every chance he has gotten. Blasting the hulk off was probably the best choice but they were idiots for not asking bruce first and then if he didnt agree drug him.

 

[Kitsune]

Instead of blasting him into space, haven't any of the big guns tried curing him--Tony Stark, Reed Richard, Dr. Strange etc.?

They were going to show him Cheeezy movies, the worst that they could find.


But that didn't work out.

 

[Spade]

In their first fight, the Surfer would have cured Banner of his Hulk ailment had it not been for the Hulk lashing out at him before he cured him.

 

[GNR]

Bruce went to Tony for help back then and it turned into a classic Iron Man/Hulk slugfest.

I have the issues,but forget the number,I think it was immediately after the Demon in a Bottle arc.

 

[Sundancer]

Huh.

Obviously the writers dont' want to "cure" him since they'd lose a marketable character, but I didn't know if they had or could make it so Bruce (or Ben) could become normal and change at will or WANT to remain as they are.

I'm guessing that's been done before too...?

 

[Manic]

I was under the impression Bruce and Hulk could already change at will, more or less.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Sometimes he can, sometimes he can't. It's usually whenever he finally manages to accept the Hulk as a part of himself that the changes happen more consciously, since Bruce has to be willing to change or his human side and his Hulk side will just fight each other while staying in whatever physical state they're in at the time.

It'd be cool if Ben could transform into the Thing when he wanted, but I'd still rather see him just retain his powers as a regular human. Something about the latter really appeals to me for some reason.

 

[BrianWilly]

More or less. It's usually more the Hulk's will than Bruce's, though.

Reed does know how to cure Ben. He knows exactly how; he could transfer the cosmic energy around Ben into another person. But since that would make someone else the Thing, Ben would never allow that. Add in all that other wangst about Ben thinking that he's more helpful to the FF and to the world as the Thing, we have a pretty solid and understandable reason as to why Reed "isn't able" to cure him through all these years.

 

[Manic]

Can Bruce still manifest the Professor Hulk?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Presumably he can manifest any Hulk since Jenkins gave him a thousand personalities. But he only ever seems to manifest the green/gray (grain, if you will) Hulk mixture of a green body and an angry adolescent's mind since Peter David's "Tempest Fugit" arc.

 

[PhotoJones]

More or less. It's usually more the Hulk's will than Bruce's, though.

Reed does know how to cure Ben. He knows exactly how; he could transfer the cosmic energy around Ben into another person. But since that would make someone else the Thing, Ben would never allow that. Add in all that other wangst about Ben thinking that he's more helpful to the FF and to the world as the Thing, we have a pretty solid and understandable reason as to why Reed "isn't able" to cure him through all these years.

Why not transfer all of the cosmic energy into a corpse? Or is that taboo? Or, if Reed really wanted to take responsibility, he'd just transfer that energy into himself.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It'd probably not work on him, since that same cosmic energy is already saturating him, making him stretchy. I'm kind of wondering why Reed doesn't just transfer Ben's energy to Doom or the Wizard, myself. Let them deal with being an ugly freak while his buddy gets to bang hot blind chicks every night.

 

[PhotoJones]

Corpse.