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You think that having most of his scenes edited out of BvS's theatrical version, barely being present for JL, mainly being absent from the promotion of the first live action JL film, and having most of his scenes refilmed in favor for a bad CGI Mustache cover up is being utilized well in all media?
Furthermore, he was portrayed as a irredeemable villain in the latest Injustice Game against the incorruptible Batman and wad literally replaced by Supergirl who became Earth's new symbol of hope.
The ONLY place where I believe that he is being used well is the animated death of Superman films.
Furthermore, if you recall on what I was like on the forums before MOS came out, then you would know that I was one who wanted and enjoyed being happy for Superman when it looked like he had a bright future ahead of him.
But once it was confirms that he was going to die in BvS, I knew right away on what that meant and I have been COMPLETELY right about every bad thing that has come so far.
You think I enjoy the fact that nearly every character is considered to be more popular than him nowadays? I don't. Not one bit.
I never said they were perfect and I think the issues with Superman in the BvS theatrical weren't there in the 3 hour cut. Snyder intended to release the full film into cinemas. The CGI moustache was all down to Cavill not been able to shave, I look at the content of those scenes and I like those scenes. Snyder didn't kill Superman as some slight to Superman fans either even if you like to act like it was done for that reason.
Injustice is a game, its just another version and its elseworlds. Its also clear in the game that that Superman isn;t the Superman of the normal DC earth.
What does popularity matter FFS, thats just childish. How do Aquaman, Green Lantern, etc fans feel.
Again these are all superficial traits with your Superman fandom IMO. The constant paranoia and pessimism is annoying.
I think some of what you said is part of the problem. You can see in each one of these cases that you mentioned (aside from the Death of Superman animated movie), it's more Superman adjacent or Superman taking a lesser role. We get MOS, and in the follow-up, we get Batman who got much more of the screentime and before the movie came out, there was a report that WB suits wanted more Batman, even if at the expense of Superman. Then we get the extended cut and find out that it was Clark/Superman scenes that were cut. Then, in his third movie, in the finale of a trilogy of movies around him, this glorious trilogy, it gets all kinds of screwed up between changing directors, Superman's scenes being reshot, mustache gate and all, and so on. So Superman played less and less of a role in these movies as time went on. The focus has been put elsewhere while we are still waiting for a true Superman sequel.
In Supergirl, you are right, he showed up. But he is in another person's show. It's still cool that we get to see him, but it's a small part. I wouldn't really count that.
Krypton is a good show so far, imo. I do like it. But this is pre-Superman, so it's more Superman adjacent. Still good though, but I wouldn't really count it as "Why Superman fans have it good."
All in all, I've maintained for a long time now that WB/DC has this weird relationship with Superman as they are simultaneously overprotective and underprotective. It's frustrating.
I'm not saying what they have done is perfect at all, I'm just saying as Superman fans we have a lot of content what do fans of Green Lantern have? A bad film from 2011, a short lived animated series and various appearances on animated series.
Superman is constantly been reinvented, we had George Reeves in the 50s, Christoper Reeve films from 78-87, Superboy, Lois & Clark, Smallville, Supergirl, Krypton. In animation we so many different series and appearances.
WB are idiots IMO but we they constantly go back to Superman. We don't have it bad at all.