Hero to Villain

Doombringer said:
He was not just an anti hero, he was in the process of becoming evil. Transcending into it. Please he wanted to destroy the Shocker later on too, "You cant defeat me! Ill chase you to the ends of the EARTH!!" I remember it vivdly. The Symbiote was influencing him. He would arrive on the scene as Spiderman, then gradually during the action he would start gettin carried away and turn dark. He beat Rhino and after Rhino was down, he was gonna crush him. But he stopped himself and realized what he was about to do. He even pondered it when he left, something to the effect of i cant believe what i just did back there, i almost did something i woulda regretted for my whole life. To Spiderman killing the Rhino would have been an evil or villainous act in itself.

I think Ghost Rider would make a pretty crazy villain. Killing not only demons, but any one, heroes included, that get in his way.
See. He wasn't evil. He was chasing down villains who he might have killed if he didn't get control of himself. He was an anti hero. He wasn't robbing banks or murdering innocent bystandards.No he was attacking bad guys in a ruthless manner no different than the hulk or blade. Hell, Sentry is more diabolical than him based on that. Remember how he killed carnage. And he still managed to overcome the symbiotes influence with his good nature in the end anyway.
The only time Spiderman was ever evil was in alternate universes.
 
Sloth7d said:
See. He wasn't evil. He was chasing down villains who he might have killed if he didn't get control of himself. He was an anti hero. He wasn't robbing banks or murdering innocent bystandards.No he was attacking bad guys in a ruthless manner no different than the hulk or blade. Hell, Sentry is more diabolical than him based on that. Remember how he killed carnage. And he still managed to overcome the symbiotes influence with his good nature in the end anyway.
The only time Spiderman was ever evil was in alternate universes.

I understand fully what your saying, but im just simply disagreeing with you.
 
Sloth7d said:
See. He wasn't evil. He was chasing down villains who he might have killed if he didn't get control of himself. He was an anti hero. He wasn't robbing banks or murdering innocent bystandards.No he was attacking bad guys in a ruthless manner no different than the hulk or blade. Hell, Sentry is more diabolical than him based on that. Remember how he killed carnage. And he still managed to overcome the symbiotes influence with his good nature in the end anyway.
The only time Spiderman was ever evil was in alternate universes.

I agree with Doom on this one, but I see your point too. The symbiote was turning pete evil tho which is why he took it off. He was wanting to kill them, not wanting to apprehend them. At that point he was basically a murderer at heart, having evil intentions he only stopped when he took back control to stop himself from doing what he was about to do. Now Punisher is an anti-hero or vigilante, he kills because he sees it as necessary, he doesn't necessarily crave the death of his victims, he may be doing a bad thing but he's doing it with best intentions (which in a way leans him more torwards bad then good in a way lol). Spiderman in that cartoon he was talking about wanted to crush Rhino and put an end to his life, it wasn't necessary, he just wanted too.
 
But still Spiderman was only targeting villains. He was an anti hero. And eitherway the symbiote didn't turn him evil yet. He demerged from it before that happened. So eitherway, Spiderman has never been evil while under the symbiotes control.
 
Seems logical. When Eddie and the symbiote were doing the "lethal protector" bit and helping innocents, they were dubbed an anti-hero. Spidey and the symbiote were far less extreme, so it stands to reason that they'd be an anti-hero, too.
marvelman418 said:
An evil Vision would be cool...
oh wait ultron. What about a evil hank pym.
The Vision started out evil and pwnt the entire roster of the Avengers at the time. :p
 

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