Heroes a rip off of.......

[He-Man]

Carnivale?

Don’t get me wrong I love Hereos but it does reminds me a lot of Carnivale (loved that show too bring it back HBO!)

Peter = Ben Hawkins…Main good guy is somehow linked/connected to the main bad guy

Sylar = Brother Justin Crowe…Main bad guy is somehow linked/connected to the main good guy

Nathan = Lodz…Played both sides of the fence and do whatever they can to get a head.

Mohinder = Sampson…General Manager…Keep things in order

Linderman = “Management” (never seen but powerfull and mixed in everything that’s going on)

Issac & Matt = Sofie. She shares a telepathic link with her mother that allows her to predict the future

Niki/Jessica = Gabriel. She has split personalities. Gabriel has the IQ of a 6 year old but they both are super strong.

Hiro= Henry Scudder. Disappears/reappears at different times throughout…

Heroes everyone is trying to meet in New York = Carnivale everyone is destine to meet in California.

Heroes has people with different powers…Carnivale had different “freaks”
All on a course to stop some kind of destruction/evil

I read somewhere that HBO canceled Carnivale because it was too complicated and a lot of people had a hard time picking up on what was going on.

Any thoughts?

 

[ragdus]

What exactly has Mohinder Generally Managed or kept in order yet?

Peter and Sylar had no connection at all until they bumped into each other. The only link here is that each show had an antagonist/protagonist. But when you're dealing with god v. evil, you sort of need that.

Issac & Matt equal Sophie? Simply based on telepathy? Isn't telepathy RAMPANT in the fictional heroic universe?

So because Niki and Gabriel were both strong, that;'s a rip? Hardly.

I could go on, but you could easily drum up a case for this show ripping X-Men, or any number of good vs. evil concepts that have portrayed in various mediums.

It's not a new concept, so parallels probably abound. What makes it unique is the execution.

It's not a rip.

 

[He-Man]

Sofie can also read peoples future...Maybe rip wasn't the best choice of word but it does remind me of that show.

 

[ragdus]

But again... mind reading, telepathy, super strength, split personalities, good vs. evil, outcast heroes, celebrated villains; none of those concepts were in any way unique to Carnivale either.

 

[lars573]

I read somewhere that HBO canceled Carnivale because it was too complicated and a lot of people had a hard time picking up on what was going on.

Any thoughts?

I'm fairly certain they cancelled it because it was an incomprehensible poorly written POS. I mean some people complain about heroes moving slow. Carnivale took 2-3 episodes to cover the narrative ground that Heroes covers in 1 ep. Then there was Ben Hawkins dream about the man-eating circus bear in a WW1 trench. Which they would 5 seconds to in every episode. How that related to anything I'll never know.

 

[PLAS]

okay, so far it has been mentioned that Heroes is a copy of:

X-Men
Rising Stars
The 4400
Supreme Power
etc
etc
etc

now this other show that lasted a season?

Heroes Bashing is the new trend

 

[USMC]

Can't see why... the show is just so good!:heart:

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I loved Carnivale, but the only connection I see between the two shows (other than the same actress who played Sophie on Carnivale plays the female FBI agent on Heroes) is the good vs. evil story.

 

[PLAS]

I loved Carnivale, but the only connection I see between the two shows (other than the same actress who played Sophie on Carnivale plays the female FBI agent on Heroes) is the good vs. evil story.

then, according to many, it's a rip-off

 

[USMC]

Any good story is a good vs. evil story...

 

[Abaddon]

the only aspect riped-off is the mutation thing.

 

[Majik1387]

No it's not a rip off at all. Heroes is a good show, Carnivale sucked ass.

 

[The Question]

Any good story is a good vs. evil story...

That's not true at all.