High school and such thread

Discussion in 'Misc. Comics Films' started by spiritmight, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. spiritmight I don't get it

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    Although alot of you have expressed abject dismay at the fact that goku is going, to school, I kinda look forward to it. I hope they make Goku a complete ****** in class or something, and I hope he karate-chops the **** out of the bullies

    Thoughts/discuss/kthxbai

    ( yeah you can bash the fact that goku is going to school in here, just don't say OMFG THIS MOOVE WIL EPIC PHAILZ or something like that)
     
  2. DorkyFresh Sum Dum Goy

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    my opinion is that it's a waste of screen time and a drastic departure from the manga/anime. it's a clear indication that Wong is grounding this movie too much in reality when what should have been done is to make it more fantastical. Goku going to school is a fine example of "change for change sake". there's no good reason for Goku to be in high school. it doesn't benefit the script or the character, it actually hinders both. there are constant complaints about how stupid this change is and a few people saying that it's not a big deal and it could be interesting, but i guarantee that no one would have a problem if they had decided to keep Goku a nature boy...including those defending the idea of Goku going to high school. keeping him a mountain boy would've kept a unique trait that most characters don't have. putting him in a regular setting like a high school, even though he ultimately turns out acceptional, grounds him and adds a "typical" trait to Goku regardless of him being an outcast (so cliche').

    like i said...it's a waste of valuable screen time and a good indication that the people in charge don't really understand the material.
     
  3. spiritmight I don't get it

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    I really doubt they don't understand the material even if they have Goku in school for no reason
     
  4. Adam Registered

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    o snap goku is supposed to be a 10 year old ****** who runs around naked in the woods. stupid hollywood.
     
  5. DorkyFresh Sum Dum Goy

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    anyone can understand the material, but i said that it's an indication that they don't REALLY understand the material. it's the same thing as listening to a song and HEARING the song. you can listen to a song but not HEAR (or get) it. it seems like James Wong has LOOKED at the original material, but has not WATCHED it.
     
  6. DorkyFresh Sum Dum Goy

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    i just realized something. in the manga/anime, Goku is a nature boy. he obviously spent most of his youth in the wilderness becoming in tune with mother nature. this is a hugely missed opportunity to capitalize on the climate/nature issue in the world today. instead of making Goku a sort of spokesperson or voice for nature and reason, they seem to have lowered him to a high schooler who just can't seem to fit in. with Goku being in a modern high school, we can only assume that (like most of us) he's grown accustomed to relying on technology for his needs.

    when people say that Goku's supposed to be stupid or somewhat of an idiot, it's in the sense that he's not technologically advanced like we are. he doesn't understand the way the sophisticated world works but instead understands the workings of nature. i'm not saying they should've pushed the nature vs technology issue in our faces, but in a subtle way like LotR did. for instance, Saruman carelessly cut down all these trees so he can build his army but in a twist of irony the ents (talking trees) used mother nature's most powerful weapon (water) to destroy everything that Saruman worked so hard and diabolically for. they could have easily implemented something similar in Dragon Ball for Goku, but instead had to resort to playing towards the MTV crowd by including scenes of Goku being the cliche'd unpopular savior of his high school.

    like i said, a huge opportunity that wasn't taken.
     
  7. Adam Registered

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    I hope you aren't like this for everything, DorkyFresh. EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD can be done better.

    You can't change what it is, so enjoy it for what it is or do not see it.
     
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    This might sounds stupid but I also always thought that Goku had a deep understanding of nature and had a huge amount of respect for it. I know the Dragon Ball film "Coolers Revenge" wasn't canon. But when Goku falls victim to Coolers great strength. While Goku is on the ground he sees a dying bird he goes on to grab this dying bird and gives it life once again while he is turning Super Saiyan. Like you said Dorky it would have been quite interesting if they would have gone in that direction.
     
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    sad, but true. With a little more thought and planning DB/Z could have been real epic. The blueprints are already there. Oh well, as long as its not any worse than FF2 I won't be too disappointed.
     
  10. DorkyFresh Sum Dum Goy

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    no, only for things that disappoint me...

    especially this movie....but you're right. everything CAN be done better.....it's called evolution.

    that's not stupid at all. it's a conclusion that you came to through observation. it's not an out of left field idea (like Goku going to high school). i'm glad that we can agree on this issue.

    problem is that i don't have much confidence that it will be much better than FF2. i'm sure the action will be there but action w/out substance can only go so far.
     
  11. MoPlaYa Crazy Guy

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    LMAO @ this thread
     
  12. DorkyFresh Sum Dum Goy

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    thanx for your thought-provoking and insightful post, moplaya. you never cease to amaze!
     
  13. RonStoppablefan Harry Potter fan

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    I'm not sure what to think about this really. I mean I'm not excited about it becuase none of this happened in the series. Why change the series for a movie? It doesn't make sense, the fans will know what happened in the series. The people who are seeing it for the preview that they like will think Goku has always went to high school, while it might make Goku look um good??? When kids go to watch the series that just saw it from the movie will be mighty confused. Well any ways I'm willing to give things a chance so whatever, might be main focouse to the plot some how.
     
  14. MoPlaYa Crazy Guy

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    Almost ever series changes when its made into a movie look at X-Men,F4, Spiderman and so on
     
  15. MoPlaYa Crazy Guy

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    Plus...Goku has to go to school. Granpa Gohan would go to jail if he didnt
     
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    Yeah, my favorite part of the Fellowship of the Ring was when Frodo tripped in the hall at school and eveyone totally laughed at him! It was hilarious!
     
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    Dragonball is really hard to do because there's elements of everything in it, sci-fi, ancient magic, etc.

    My solution was to have Dragon Ball Z take place like 500 years in the future. it's still Earth, but not necessarily the U.S. or Japan, kind of an amalgamation of everywhere. The technology would be incredibly advanced (the entire Capsule Corp.) Animals would have evolved to human-like forms in a lot of places (either from nature or human experimentaion) and they would have gained all human rights by then, allowing them to take jobs as police officers. This would have given the Dragon Ball films a real style and imagination like the Chronicles of Narnia with a ton of creatures running around, but it still could have been a futuristic story grounded in reality.
     
  18. tekken Registered

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    just think of the school part as a filler episode. lol.

    one of the weirdest fillers was when gohan gets mixed up with the homeless orphans. that was so weird and out of place..but yeah.
     
  19. Adam Registered

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    Exactly. Dragonball had many crappy filler episodes.
     
  20. Hectorminator Registered

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    NO.

    Do we put up with crappy filler episodes for the show? Sure.

    But do we HAVE to put up with crappy filler for the FREAKIN' LIVE ACTION-MOVIE?? NO!! I hate that all us geeks have to settle for crap and we're just happy with that!!

    Goku in high school = Frodo in high school.
     
  21. Adam Registered

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    Frodo in highscool would be hilarious. LOL
     
  22. RonStoppablefan Harry Potter fan

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    LOL It showed kids needed to have parents and homes. I think it was meant to be a lesson for Gohan some how. To protect his loved ones yada yada yada. Any who Gramps Gohan never sent Goku to school in the series and he never went to jail, he just got killed by his adoring adopted son.
     
  23. MoPlaYa Crazy Guy

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    I said ALMOST
     
  24. Koosla Registered

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    I sort of like the idea...



























    ... as much as casting Vegeta as a social worker :woot:
     
  25. Adam Registered

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    Hahaha. I would pay 10 dollars to see Vegeta as a social worker. Don't try to tell me you wouldn't.
     

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