Higher moral standard required of teachers?

[FunBobPants]

A teacher in Texas has been fired after topless pictures of her were found by a student.

Hoover said Friday the photos are art and made no apologies.

"I'm an artist, and I'm going to participate in the arts," Hoover said. "If that's not something they want me to do, then I want to be told that. I don't feel as if I was doing anything that was beyond expectations."

The school district said the photos were inappropriate and violate the "higher moral standard" expected of public-school teachers. As she was escorted out of class last month she was told she's become an ineffective teacher.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003067346_teacher17.html


So what do you think? What are these higher moral standards that are required of teachers? What kind of out-of-school actions or behaviour do you think could be used to justify the firing of a teacher...if any?

 

[Hobgoblin]

I'm not sure if morality is the problem here. She has a right to take nude photos of herself because she is an artist, but posting them online where students could see them was just bad judgement. If she is going to do something like post nudes of herself, she needs to be careful about it.The teacher should do it under an alias or something, or submit the pics to an artistic magazine.

As for what things a teacher could get fired for, anything that endangers the student. For example, a teacher in a nearby town was just arrested for throwing a party, serving alcohol and having sex with some of her handicapped students.Thats unacceptable for any student, but especially for special needs students.

 

[Kelly]

I'm a teacher.....


She should be fired for stupidity, not lack of morals....

 

[Carter]

My cousin who worked for CVS was telling me one day that while developing pictures he found some of my next door nieghbor naked.
He goes, "your neighbor has a bit of a wild side"

True story
Wish I'd seen them
Hawt

 

[Mrh7448]

I'm not sure if morality is the problem here. She has a right to take nude photos of herself because she is an artist, but posting them online where students could see them was just bad judgement. If she is going to do something like post nudes of herself, she needs to be careful about it.The teacher should do it under an alias or something, or submit the pics to an artistic magazine.

As for what things a teacher could get fired for, anything that endangers the student. For example, a teacher in a nearby town was just arrested for throwing a party, serving alcohol and having sex with some of her handicapped students.Thats unacceptable for any student, but especially for special needs students.

Well even in a magazine, or at a gallery show they could still be seen by her students. I agree that it was stupid to post them online in such a public forum. There are sites dedicated towards artistic endeavours and that's where they should have been posted if anywhere

 

[Master Chief]

My cousin who worked for CVS was telling me one day that while developing pictures he found some of my next door nieghbor naked.
He goes, "your neighbor has a bit of a wild side"

True story
Wish I'd seen them
Hawt

The one reason and one reason only I'd like to work at a picture developing place.

 

[Danalys]

i don't see why nudity is a moral issue. why would nudity be considered immoral?

 

[War Lord]

i don't see why nudity is a moral issue. why would nudity be considered immoral?

In that case, why would sex at all involve any moral issues?

 

[Danalys]

because sex has implications.

 

[ProductionMusic]

I'm a teacher.....


She should be fired for stupidity, not lack of morals....

Her being a Teacher should not matter shes a fully grown woman shes not stupid. She did that on her own time what she does is her business. One would wonder why would a Student be looking up Pictures of his Teacher in the first place. The site the article mentioned looks very random. I can see Teachers becoming one of the more hardest professions for Females in the future. There may come a day where there are no Female Teachers at all

 

[War Lord]

Her being a Teacher should not matter shes a fully grown woman shes not stupid. She did that on her own time what she does is her business. One would wonder why would a Student be looking up Pictures of his Teacher in the first place. The site the article mentioned looks very random. I can see Teachers becoming one of the more hardest professions for Females in the future. There may come a day where there are no Female Teachers at all

Obviously the teacher likely made mention of it in class and one only needs to know a few facts about the teacher to find her in the search engine.

 

[ProductionMusic]

Obviously the teacher likely made mention of it in class

If she did that then that would be stupid. Its one thing to do things lke this quietly & on your own time but if she mentioned / brought this up in class then she can definitely blame this on herself

 

[logansoldcigar]

did anyone actually read the article? she didnt post the pics, her partner did.
even if she had, she shouldnt have been fired for it, IMO. It aint against the law. (unless, of course, there are contractual clauses that prevent a teacher from doing this, but her statements suggest otherwise).

Obviously the teacher likely made mention of it in class and one only needs to know a few facts about the teacher to find her in the search engine

Know that, or speculating, jonty?

cos it could be easy to speculate and say her partner posted them without her knowledge, and the first she heard was when she got hoofed.
and again, even if she did, so what? its a spot of nudity. The only thing that should actually matter is whether or not she is a good art teacher.


again, it shows how warped the balance in America is getting. Ok to have a movie with a body count, and decapitations, but cant show a pair of boobs.

 

[redmarvel]

In most of Europe nude beaches are accepted. There are even nudist colonies in North America. Nudity has been depicted in art for centuries. Nudity is not a reason to fire someone, even if they are a teacher.

However, teachers should adhere to a higher morality standard. They should do their best not to break any laws or advocate the breaking of laws. Since taking nude pictures and posting them is not illegal, morality isn't an issue here. If she had been caught smoking pot, drinking and driving or downloading copyrighted music then they would have the right to fire her.

 

[Danalys]

i've been thinking of going to a nudist beach.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Noooooo. I like my teachers being degenerates.

 

[logansoldcigar]

I has sex with one of my teachers when i were a schoolboy

 

[logansoldcigar]

didnt half make my catflap sore. i couldnt sit down for a week

 

[Angry Sentinel]

Editted...did anyone actually read the article? she didnt post the pics, her partner did.
even if she had, she shouldnt have been fired for it, IMO. It aint against the law. (unless, of course, there are contractual clauses that prevent a teacher from doing this, but her statements suggest otherwise).

and again, even if she did, so what? its a spot of nudity. The only thing that should actually matter is whether or not she is a good art teacher.


again, it shows how warped the balance in America is getting. Ok to have a movie with a body count, and decapitations, but cant show a pair of boobs.

Partially agree, but don't you think she should have some repercussions for her actions(Probably not firing of course, but something). I agree that it's not about legality, or morality... but the simple fact that she is in a position to influence minors (does the article say what grade she teaches, I didn't read it either).

The Simpsons: "Will someone please think of the children??!!"

Here's my problem, I think the world is allowing and influencing children to grow up too quickly nowadays. Teenage sex, teenage parenthood, drug abuse, teenage mortality, random violence and anything in general that truly should be more for adults to contend with, are becoming bigger and bigger social problems for teens and more importantly children. I agree with your statement about violence and how imbalanced the law is, but all in all, I would really like to see a harder line drawn for encouraging children to be more protected or censored from this type of influencing.

I has sex with one of my teachers when i were a schoolboy...didnt half make my catflap sore. i couldnt sit down for a week

LMAO

 

[logansoldcigar]

the punchline to the joke is actually the funny bit. you missed that off

i do agree that we are sexualising kids too young (thongs with "sexy thing" printed on the front for the under 10s? ), especially as we scream out about the need for sarahs law or megans law or whatever..ie, its ok for the media to present kids as objects of desire, but its wrong for you to think of them as such (I say curb the media on that, btw)

BUT: in the story, its implied the kids are older, by the fact this got out cos one of the kids gave a picture to another teacher, suggesting they had access to fetch them online., and what a teacher does in her own time is up to her. what next? sack a teacher that is openly gay (remember, this WAS in Texas), or is an admitted user of a nude beach (a student might be a peeping tom and spot her), or whatever? its harmless, she did no wrong, and its not contributing to the collapse of civilisation. blame the media for that one

 

[Erzengel]

So um....are there links to the picture?

 

[logansoldcigar]

try flikr, i suppose.

maybe sacking is acceptable if the teacher is a floppy boobed minger

 

[Angry Sentinel]

Oh yes, I agree. Especially if we're talking about highschool students, it's practically ridiculous to think that there is a reason to react this seriously. It's just my 'save the children' alarm goes off whenever I read one of these things. Ultimately the reaction is so severe that we're actually making the problem worse. Now there'll be a hundred naked teachers with a hundred horny boyfriends posting pictures just because this 'incident' was exposed (lol) and treated so harshly.

And I editted my post, but the first line got me more than the second for some reason... I guess I seen too many naked teacher when I is a child

 

[logansoldcigar]

sometimes, fella, trhe "save the children" alarm is the worst one we have, cos its the one that leads to overreaction more often than not. im in me 30s. the alarm went off a hell of a lot less in those days, and i did stuff. some of it i kept doing, some i stopped cos it were rank. Now, they dont do stuff, and unfortuantly, the good intentions that led to stuff not being done got warped n perverted along the way.

well, i understand it, anyways. i think

 

[X-Punisher]

A teacher in Texas has been fired after topless pictures of her were found by a student.



http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003067346_teacher17.html


So what do you think? What are these higher moral standards that are required of teachers? What kind of out-of-school actions or behaviour do you think could be used to justify the firing of a teacher...if any?

LEts see they must be:
-virgins
-never drank
-never smoked
-never protested against the government
-no personal opinion on anything(Bible says it's wrong)
-must not build up a friendly relationship with student