Hooray for Orthodox jews!!

[kainedamo]

Whoever said I was anti-sematic was wrong!! These guys kick ass!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dSHl3C9kgY

 

[kainedamo]

Wow!! Look at this great educational video guys...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiGgDtsKvog

 

[Speedball]

I think it's time for a ban!

 

[Gamma Ray]

I think it's time for a ban!

 

[kainedamo]

A ban for what???

 

[JLBats]

A ban for what???

You. Because you're not man enough for some people

 

[Superman4ever]

I think it's time for a ban!

A ban for what? For posting a video of peaceful Orthodox Jews standing aginast Zionism, and who get lambasted by a so-called "real" Jew?

 

[kainedamo]

I'm as confused as you are.

 

[Speedball]

All you are doing is posting propoganda, and instigating people to fight.
You say you want peace? then why do you post this crap that will only draw lines again?

 

[Superman4ever]

This is not a rare occurance BTW, http://www.nkusa.org/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...5/AR2006072501923.html?nav=rss_print/asection

They have a huge protest against zionism every year (at least once) in NY in front of the Israeli Embassy.

 

[Superman4ever]

All you are doing is posting propoganda, and instigating people to fight.
You say you want peace? then why do you post this crap that will only draw lines again?

How though? He's not being anti-semitic, he just posted a video of JEWS against Zionism.

There have been WAY worse crap posted about Judasim, Christianity, and Islam, religion in general, and I've never seen you storming in there carring the torch of peace and reason!

There was a thread about Che Guevara that was propaganda, and were you in there calling for a ban against Man-thing?

NOTE: I'm not a Che/ communist supporter; I'm just asing a question!

 

[hippie_hunter]

I would never call you anti-semetic though extremely misguided. You sig especially shows that.

 

[kainedamo]

I can't win!!

 

[kainedamo]

I think Hippie_Hunter would benifet greatly from watching the second video I posted.

 

[Speedball]

I never said I wanted peace, what I want is order.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I can't win!!

Because you obviously don't know all the facts when you choose a side.

The reason why Ultra-Ultra Orthodox Jews oppose Zionism is because they beleive that a new Jewish homeland can only be created when the Messiah appears, not because they oppose a Jewish state in the Middle East.

 

[Superman4ever]

I never said I wanted peace, what I want is order.

That makes no sense at all.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I think Hippie_Hunter would benifet greatly from watching the second video I posted.

For your information, I do not support the Israelis either. I think that they have gone too far with their action in Lebanon and they should not have taken the land in the 1967 war. They brought this upon themselves.

However I do see Hezbollah and Hamas as the greater evil in this conflict on account of their attacks are mostly civilian targets, the Palestinians brought this upon themselves by electing Hamas, and everytime a war has started it was because Israel was preemptively attacked.

 

[Superman4ever]

Because you obviously don't know all the facts when you choose a side.

The reason why Ultra-Ultra Orthodox Jews oppose Zionism is because they beleive that a new Jewish homeland can only be created when the Messiah appears, not because they oppose a Jewish state in the Middle East.

Oh, because only Ultra-ultra Orthodox Jews are against Zionism? And frankly that's not main reason these people are against the state of Israel.

 

[kainedamo]

Because you obviously don't know all the facts when you choose a side.

The reason why Ultra-Ultra Orthodox Jews oppose Zionism is because they beleive that a new Jewish homeland can only be created when the Messiah appears, not because they oppose a Jewish state in the Middle East.

Like I said, watch the second video. It seems that Orthodox Jews oppose Zionism because they think Zionism is in a great part resonsible for the conflict in the Middle East. They think that Zionism is an attitude that gives Jews the right to occupy Palestinian land and oppress Muslims, and the Orthodox Jews see this as being in direct conflict with what being a Jew is all about.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Oh, because only Ultra-ultra Orthodox Jews are against Zionism? And frankly that's not main reason these people are against the state of Israel.

I'm not saying that only the Ultra-Ultra Orthodox Jews oppose Zionism and I'm sure that they are several other reasons such as the opposition to a secular Jewish state, but it is a big reason.

 

[Superman4ever]

For your information, I do not support the Israelis either. I think that they have gone too far with their action in Lebanon and they should not have taken the land in the 1967 war. They brought this upon themselves.

However I do see Hezbollah and Hamas as the greater evil in this conflict on account of their attacks are mostly civilian targets, the Palestinians brought this upon themselves by electing Hamas, and everytime a war has started it was because Israel was preemptively attacked.

It's funny how Hezbollah, the obvious terrorist, have killed more soilders than civilians in this war compared to Israel.

So far 51 Israelis have died...18 are civilians. You do the math!

 

[hippie_hunter]

Like I said, watch the second video. It seems that Orthodox Jews oppose Zionism because they think Zionism is in a great part resonsible for the conflict in the Middle East. They think that Zionism is an attitude that gives Jews the right to occupy Palestinian land and oppress Muslims, and the Orthodox Jews see this as being in direct conflict with what being a Jew is all about.

Yes, I do have to agree that Zionism is a great part responsible for the conflict but there are other reasons.

 

[Speedball]

Yes, I do have to agree that Zionism is a great part responsible for the conflict but there are other reasons.

The main reason is not the Zionist, it's the people who want to wipe it off of the face of the Earth.
The Israelites were there before Islam was even a thought in anyone's mind, and they have a claim to their land. They don't want to take over Lebanon, just expel the Syrians.

 

[kainedamo]

Speedball, you're talking about ancient history.

Besides, when the Muslims controlled the land around the 600 AD era, Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived in peace with each other there.