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how did you feel when lex luthor and his hench men was beating the crap out of superman? I felt like i wanted to jump through the screen and kill all of them. There was slience in the theater and people were saying omg, like it was being broadcasted on CNN or something. how did you feel?
 
I Felt like going to Sups resuce and beat the living crap out of Lex & his thug BATMAN style .
 
I cried like a baby

it was definatley a horrific scene.
 
It was great. Because it was horrific. The entire scene was met with gasps and silence at the brutality and Singer manipulates his audience like a true showman. Luthor to this point has been very over the top and charismatically entertaining (though in his confrontation of Lois he becomes more menacing and when he holds the kryptonite over a 5 year old, considering to kill him, he is downright creepy and cruel) but then boom his real personality comes out and the scene has all the intensity and intamacy of a murder in Apt Pupil. It was more than obvious based on the garden betrayal of Christ. What a powerful scene.

In fact it was a highlight. My regret is that Superman never reencounters Luthor after this scene which is a huge miscalculation to not have him at least confront Luthor. It would have been even better if Luthor goes back to Metropolis and hides behind his money and Supes can't touch him.

Oh well.
 
I felt, if they had a super-powered villain, we wouldn't be looking at another powerless Superman, getting his ass kicked by a bunch of freakin' thugish goons.:O
 
KON - EL said:
how did you feel when lex luthor and his hench men was beating the crap out of superman? I felt like i wanted to jump through the screen and kill all of them. There was slience in the theater and people were saying omg, like it was being broadcasted on CNN or something. how did you feel?

i would be 10 steps ahead of you :) on that one
 
I loved it. Superman needs to be humbled.

But, I liked it even more, because it led to the terrific scene of SUPERMAN RECHARGING in the STRATOSPHERE!!! loved it.

-R
 
Glad I'm not the only one that though it was horrific, lol. I definetely wanted to kill them all too
 
i also liked the fact that superman tried to put up a fight against the henchmen because it made the scene so much better.
 
It was hard to watch. It was pretty graphic for a Superman film. Seeing such a icon being harmed was sad.
 
Gamma Ray said:
It was hard to watch. It was pretty graphic for a Superman film. Seeing such a icon being harmed was sad.

yea it was it would be pretty ruff for any movie but more so for supes
 
exactly gamma ray... it was hard to watch. i wanted to look away all three times i saw it.

i said it somewhere else, i forget where, but it was like watching a hate crime. it was like watching something happen that you know is wrong, and shouldn't happen.
 
Gamma Ray said:
It was hard to watch. It was pretty graphic for a Superman film. Seeing such a icon being harmed was sad.



i think thats what horrified people , because we're so use to seeing superman invincible and now hes being beaten to his near death by thugs.
 
I felt it was too much, seriously. Superman doesn`t had to be beaten up that much to prove the point he`s a hero and Luthor hates him.
 
That was one of the worst things to have to endure at a film for me since I watched Nuclear Man scratch Supes neck at the age of 7 (at that time it was traumatic). The point when they were dragging him and he was sprawled out like a weakling really was unsettling (meaning the scene worked like a charm on me). The stabbing was also great. I heard half the preview audience gasp and almost all of the opening day audience was taken aback. My wife uttered some low-volume explicatives at the screen during that part, basically voicing her displeasure with Mr. Luthor's actions (this was remarkable because usually she could care less about anything Superman related, including the original films). I also loved how Parker Posey sold it with her performance. None of the original movies ever made me feel that way.
 
I liked the effect it generated. Similar to when Batman gets gased by Scarecrow and relives his childhood trauma while crashing into the alleyway.
 
SpiderDaniel said:
I felt it was too much, seriously. Superman doesn`t had to be beaten up that much to prove the point he`s a hero and Luthor hates him.

That's not the point that was being made. He showed he's a hero throughout the entire film, and Luthor's hatred for him is more than evident.

The intent of the scene is to show the humanity of Superman. It's to make the audience connect with him. When you see bullets bouncing off his chest, you think it's awesome, but you can't relate to that. When you see him crawling on the ground as he is being beaten, you really feel for him. You can see his pain (which at this point is physical; the rest of the film he is dealing with emotional and psychological pain). You can almost feel him being kicked. That's the point that was being made. That Superman is more human than people think.
 
Tron5000 said:
That's not the point that was being made. He showed he's a hero throughout the entire film, and Luthor's hatred for him is more than evident.

The intent of the scene is too show the humanity of Superman. It's to make the audience connect with him. When you see bullets bouncing off his chest, you think it's awesome, but you can't relate to that. When you see him crawling on the ground as he is being beaten, you really feel for him. You can see his pain (which at this point is physical; the rest of the film he is dealing with emotional and psychological pain). You can almost feel him being kicked. That's the point that was being made. That Superman is more human than people think.
my thoughts exactly:)
 
I thinki it was meant to unsettle and shock audiences. Partly to show Superman as humble and partly to show Luthor as truly evil and depraved.

I also would like to add when I saw it a family behind me (which was actually a good gauage as it is the target audience, parents who I'm sure loved the REeve movie, introducing it to a few well behaved children, who clapped at the end) was in dead silence and after the scene was over and Supes was drowning the water the son asked if Superman was dead.

The scene works like a charm and is more intense than Batman getting gassed in BB or Spidey getting his ass whopped in SM2, and I do prefer both of those movies but neither reeached that level of personal intensity when it came to the violence though.
 
the scene was a very good one, it showed how volunerable supes would be if he was not super, he couldn't even fight back. IMHO they made a hugh mistake by not giving him dialoge and not giving lex any other than shouting out things. I can't recall but i thought a few times throughout the other superman movies that when superman was being hurt by lex in some way or another he would say "but the people" - he should have been trying to murmer that out while they were beating him up "but the people need me" and lex's response "oh you didn't get memo, the WORLD DOESN'T NEED SUPERMAN!!" that would have been cool however it may have made supes seem like he was begging for his life and even after enduring a beating of a lifetime and having kryptonite stabbed in his back he had the BALLS to stand up and face them before plumetting to his demise, awesome scene.
 
I thought, "How heroic Supes isn't even going to stagger to his knees and try to fight back like a real man."
 
everybody is commenting on how brutal the NK beat-up scene was.

i was half expecting pipes and stuff. there was nothing, just a lot of kicking and beating with bare fists. i didnt find it to be as violent as i thought it would be. so yeah, i wished it was more brutal.

but that's just me ;)
 
Steelsheen said:
everybody is commenting on how brutal the NK beat-up scene was.

i was half expecting pipes and stuff. there was nothing, just a lot of kicking and beating with bare fists. i didnt find it to be as violent as i thought it would be. so yeah, i wished it was more brutal.

but that's just me ;)

Yeah it would have been better if it was more brutal it would make it even more better.
 

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