The Amazing Spider-Man How should Spidey fit into the Marvel plan?

[NHawk19]

With the release of Iron Man 2 and seeing all the easter eggs and relationships with

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Hulk, Captain America, Avengers & Thor

, I'm thinking that if sony doesnt find a way to get the re-boot to interface I'm going to feel cheated

Anybody else feeling this way?

 

[Rodrigo90]

I always thought Peter's parents being killed by the Chameleon would be cool,and Chameleon himself being hunted by S.H.I.E.L.D.,leading Spider-Man to confront them.

But something like that will probably never happen.

 

[weezerspider]

It can't happen unless Sony stops making movies and the rights revert back to Marvel, which realistically won't happen at least for another 20 years.

 

[Naite22]

How should he fit into the Marvel plan??? He shouldn't! Non of them should. I will more or less promise that this Avengers movie will fail huge. I'm not talking money wice, cause it'll definitely earn a bundle. But storywice and, shall we say, completeness wice, it_will_fail. It just doesn't work. The universes are too different, depending on which superhero that's in question. The characters wont get enough screentime or developement in this flick. They will be scattered all over the place, and that's a sign for a hollow experience with cool effects. Big No-No. Someone WILL take a backseat, and it'll just seem wrong. I say drop it, but I know they wont.

 

[SuperFerret]

Okay, so ignoring the foolishness dripping from the post above, I agree that Spider-Man doesn't need to fit into the so-called "Marvel Plan". Despite what many think, these movies aren't a recreation of the Marvel Universe on screen, they're adaptions. If you really want to see Spider-Man team up with the Avengers, read a comic, where the real Marvel U is.

 

[Naite22]

^ the only foolishness here, is the fact that you guys actually believe this movie will work.

 

[SuperFerret]

Nope. The foolishness lies in the idea that a big summer action movie needs to have a full allotment of character growth and development, especially in characters who've already had at least one solo movie to go through said growth.

 

[weezerspider]

Yah the difference with the Avengers and other team movies, is that every major character in The Avengers will have had their own solo film to develop them. The first Avengers film is a sequel to all of the previous films. No origins. Get right to the action and focus the actual story on Cap adjusting to the times.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Spider-Man doesn't need to be an Avenger. I always hated this idea of making Spider-Man a grand scale hero. He is a small-time hero in the big picture, and that is where he has historically worked best. I don't think Spider-Man running into Cap is a must happen event in film ever. These films have to come together with a reason, not just serve as random cameos and meetings for the sake of cameos and meetings. IM2 fell into this trap a bit with Black Widow, but otherwise has done a great job of not distracting the films with needless cameos (again, sans Black Widow). Making a Cap film in which Spider-Man randomly appears is stupid, and would serve no real purpose.

 

[Robin91939]

Have the first film end with everything seeming to finally be working out for Peter/Spider-man.

Then a final scene where Nick Fury (Sam Jackson) shows up and confronts him. He tells him who he is and that S.H.I.E.L.D. has their eye on him and that he's fine until he's 18. But that he's an unauthorized genetic mutation and one he's legal, he's their jurisdiction...."enjoy your youth kid".

Something like that would be awesome. You don't even need to have become an Avenger, just show him as being part of that universe, maybe reference him in another Marvel film, or mention Captain America or Tony Stark in a Spider-man film.

-R

 

[SuperFerret]

That scene was one of the worst parts of the early Ultimate Spider-Man books, and completely ruined the idea of Spidey as an independent hero.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I didn't like that idea, either. Also, what really do we add by having Fury randomly recruit Spidey to SHIELD? Spidey is an independent hero, and when he was an independent hero, he was at his best. Why would you want to handcuff him into a SHIELD saga when that only limits your options with the character?

Bad idea

 

[NHawk19]

Have the first film end with everything seeming to finally be working out for Peter/Spider-man.

Then a final scene where Nick Fury (Sam Jackson) shows up and confronts him. He tells him who he is and that S.H.I.E.L.D. has their eye on him and that he's fine until he's 18. But that he's an unauthorized genetic mutation and one he's legal, he's their jurisdiction...."enjoy your youth kid".

Something like that would be awesome. You don't even need to have become an Avenger, just show him as being part of that universe, maybe reference him in another Marvel film, or mention Captain America or Tony Stark in a Spider-man film.

-R

Something like that is what i had in mind maybe afer the credits, but something even more subtle would work as well. Just as an example you could use run some of the news footage from Hulk on a TV screen in the background like they did in IM2, or a mention of the Stark Expo since it was near NYC. Maybe not full on Avenger but just so he exists in their world.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Simple. He isn't in the marvel plan.

 

[Venom'sDad]

Personally, I don’t have a problem with Spidey being indirectly part of the “Marvel Plan”. That, imo, has nothing to do with the Avengers or cameos in the members solo films… or vice-versa, them in Spidey’s films. However, I would definitely tie the super-soldier formula to what Norman has been trying to create & perfect, Chameleon trying to steal(be it plans or the formula itself) for a foreign agency or corporatist, and any other Spidey’s rogue of villains, interested in creating super-villains. No prob what-so-ever.

 

[©KAW]

F--- The Avengers! Let's first get SPIDER-MAN right!

 

[Droogoonie789]

Have the first film end with everything seeming to finally be working out for Peter/Spider-man.

Then a final scene where Nick Fury (Sam Jackson) shows up and confronts him. He tells him who he is and that S.H.I.E.L.D. has their eye on him and that he's fine until he's 18. But that he's an unauthorized genetic mutation and one he's legal, he's their jurisdiction...."enjoy your youth kid".

Something like that would be awesome. You don't even need to have become an Avenger, just show him as being part of that universe, maybe reference him in another Marvel film, or mention Captain America or Tony Stark in a Spider-man film.

-R

Personally, I don’t have a problem with Spidey being indirectly part of the “Marvel Plan”. That, imo, has nothing to do with the Avengers or cameos in the members solo films… or vice-versa, them in Spidey’s films. However, I would definitely tie the super-soldier formula to what Norman has been trying to create & perfect, Chameleon trying to steal(be it plans or the formula itself) for a foreign agency or corporatist, and any other Spidey’s rogue of villains, interested in creating super-villains. No prob what-so-ever.

I don't know about SHIELD viewing Spidey as a threat or anything, but to show that Big Brother's kinda watchin sounds pretty awesome to me. Indirectly being part of the Marvel Movieverse is the way to go, maybe bringing Spidey in a bit on another big team-up or a cameo in a solo film later on down the road. That would work.

 

[ModestMr.Green]

He really shouldn't. I wouldn't start a riot over something like the Fury scene mentioned above, but I think the Spider-Man film series would work best as something self-contained. Perhaps a little nod to Marvel continuity like the Batman & Robin line, 'This is why Superman works alone.' (e.g. When Peter finally has a successful test with the web-shooters, have an aside like, 'Yeah, just call me Tony Stark.')

 

[Spidey Snooch]

Does anyone know if Sony is connected to Disney in any way? They could certainly work something out, don't you think...?
But since The Avengers comes out first, how cool would it be to introduce the new Spidey there? Something low key. Maybe he could swing through the final fight, getting civilians to safety while the big boys handle things. Or, even more low key, at the Shield/Stark/whatever press conference, who's there but none other than Peter Parker taking pictures for the Bugle. It can work.

 

[MrSpyder]

Spidey sometimes aids The Avengers as well as the X-Men in certain crisis in the marvel universe. Spidey can stand alone on his own until he needs help

 

[Droogoonie789]

He really shouldn't. I wouldn't start a riot over something like the Fury scene mentioned above, but I think the Spider-Man film series would work best as something self-contained. Perhaps a little nod to Marvel continuity like the Batman & Robin line, 'This is why Superman works alone.' (e.g. When Peter finally has a successful test with the web-shooters, have an aside like, 'Yeah, just call me Tony Stark.')

Does anyone know if Sony is connected to Disney in any way? They could certainly work something out, don't you think...?
But since The Avengers comes out first, how cool would it be to introduce the new Spidey there? Something low key. Maybe he could swing through the final fight, getting civilians to safety while the big boys handle things. Or, even more low key, at the Shield/Stark/whatever press conference, who's there but none other than Peter Parker taking pictures for the Bugle. It can work.

I think simple nods to the Marvel Movieverse would work in the beginning, maybe news broadcasts showing events from the other Marvel movies too. I would have a joygasm if Pete was taking pics at one of those press conferences.

 

[Ajendo]

How should he fit into the Marvel plan??? He shouldn't! Non of them should. I will more or less promise that this Avengers movie will fail huge. I'm not talking money wice, cause it'll definitely earn a bundle. But storywice and, shall we say, completeness wice, it_will_fail. It just doesn't work. The universes are too different, depending on which superhero that's in question. The characters wont get enough screentime or developement in this flick. They will be scattered all over the place, and that's a sign for a hollow experience with cool effects. Big No-No. Someone WILL take a backseat, and it'll just seem wrong. I say drop it, but I know they wont.

Have you not seen the Ocean movies?

 

[Ajendo]

I don't even understand why this is even being considered and repeatedly to boot. the movie rights to Spider-Man are owned by sony not marvel studios, so all this spidey team up crap aint gonna happen ever until 2017 when Disney take the rights back or if Sony prematurely default on making good spidey movies from here on in.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

I think they should first make at least two spiderman movies with no sign of the avengers, and if they are good enough, then they could bring in SHIELD and all that ****, and in that case spiderman could be in The Avengers 2 if that would ever be made or like marvel civil war movie. In the marvel civil war comics Ironman makes a new suit for spiderman, like a Iron-spider suit, so maybe he could wear that if he would be in an Avengers movie and if the marvel civil war movie would be made he'd have to wear it.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Won't happen because Marvel Studios doesn't have the rights.

I hate that they try to introduce an inter-character continuity. Iron Man 2 felt like a set-up for The Avengers movie anyway. They do the same mistakes they did in the comics again just much earlier.

I mean, calling the Captain America movie "The First Avenger" or smth like that? Fanboy wank ********.