Sequels How The X-Men And Mutants In General Can Be Brought Into The MCU

[Inquirer]

For those of you who are unaware of the comic-book origins of Wanda Maximoff and her brother, Pietro Maximoff, whose aliases on the page are Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, they were introduced as children of the mutant antihero/ villain, Magneto, and were depicted as having inherited the Mutant X-gene from him. Hence, on the page, they aren't just "enhanced" individuals as they're explained to be in Avengers: Age of Ultron but are mutants.

However, due to Marvel licensing the movie-production rights to all mutant characters as well as the word "mutant" and the concept behind it to Fox back in the 1990s, Wanda and Pietro could be featured in the MCU due to being tied to The Avengers brand on the page but could not be depicted as mutants in Age of Ultron and the rest of the MCU.

Fortunately, now that Disney owns Fox, that inability no longer exists; Marvel Studios/ Disney can now implement mutants, the word "mutant," and the concept of mutants into the MCU.

Hence, due to Marvel Studios amending the explanation of the source of Wanda's powers in its Visual Dictionary to state that her (and by extension her brother's) powers were awakened by the Mind Stone rather than created by it, it seems that Marvel Studios has layed the foundation for the concept of the Mutant X-gene; it can now be revealed that the Mind Stone simply activated the Mutant X-genes of Wanda and her brother.

So, do you think that such a revelation will be made in WandaVision, which is an upcoming show that will be exclusive to Disney's incoming streaming service and that will revolve around Wanda Maximoff and her Android boyfriend, Vision? If so, do you think that such a revelation would be made in the show's first season or in a subsequent one?

I'm hoping that the show will adapt the House of M storyline, in which Wanda subconsciously alters reality - that is to say unknowingly to even herself - in response to a traumatic event such that the mutant population is reduced from tens of millions to only 198 individuals (in addition to other changes). In the show, the twist could be that the MCU thus far has been an altered reality in which mutants' X-genes have been made inactive as a result of Wanda subconsciously altering reality in response to a traumatic event.

A huge upside to such an adaptation is that it would enable Marvel Studios to forego the traditional route of introducing characters (i.e. origin stories), as certain mutant characters can have already experienced their origin stories when Wanda undoes the alterations that she's made to reality.

So, we'd have a fully developed Professor X, Wolverine, Cyclops, Storm, etc. However, their pasts could still be explored in flashbacks and prequels.

What do you guys and gals think?

 

[x-er]

I think I need to watch Winter Soldier because I never did
I thought the Maximoffs had been introduced in A2 but now I know

 

[Inquirer]

I think I need to watch Winter Soldier because I never did
I thought the Maximoffs had been introduced in A2 but now I know

Well, they're in the mid-credits scene of The Winter Soldier, but they aren't fully introduced until Age Of Ultron.

 

[x-er]

X-Men origins will be fun. Maybe a mix of flashbacks and present events (what is the correct term for this?)?

 

[x-er]

Since they’re keeping Deadpool and he may continue his solo act, I would consider Keeping the original cast of Fox’s X-men for a new project with a new director, separate from the MCU until the MCU is ready to take in the X-men for Phase V or even VI.

Isn’t everything Fox now under Disney anyway? It’s possible right? And we all know Fays of Future Past was a hit because of Singer and the original cast so it may be worth a try. Plus Disney would be making a lot of disappointed X-men fans dreams come true!!!

 

[Inquirer]

Since they’re keeping Deadpool and he may continue his solo act, I would consider Keeping the original cast of Fox’s X-men for a new project with a new director, separate from the MCU until the MCU is ready to take in the X-men for Phase V or even VI.

Isn’t everything Fox now under Disney anyway? It’s possible right? And we all know Fays of Future Past was a hit because of Singer and the original cast so it may be worth a try. Plus Disney would be making a lot of disappointed X-men fans dreams come true!!!

It was explicitly stated at Cinemacon that Dark Phoenix will be the final X-Men movie about the main team that is produced by Fox.

 

[x-er]

Well I guess Disney misses out because the original cast is the one people would go watch, especially if they featured this little gal:

It's a lot of years without X-Men. If everything made by Fox is now Disney's, why not let Disney make a final X-Men movie for fans of the original Fox cast?

 

[psylockolussus]

Thats not gonna happen.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

They have to tell about X-gene right now. Thereby we know mutants exist in MCU and then mutants characters could appear later.

But we have to introduce X-gene quickly, a gene who exists since millenium
-They explains this gene was rare among population (Apocalypse in antiquity era, Wolvy-Sabretooth-Mystique in 19st..) so nobody knows this specie,
-but during 20st people born with X-gene have exploded (Erik, Xavier born in 30's, x-men' generation born in 80's...)

 

[Tymminator]

I think it would be kind of cool if Mutants were already around, but in wayyyy too small a number to really cause huge attention. The idea is they are there, but few mutants had their X-gene “activated”.

You can retina some mutants still being in the past, like a Wolverine. He could have been activated, but most other mutants in the population were not, thus they pass for human and the dozen or so known mutants ojt there for the most part don’t cause any alarm when in the MCU world other issues are going on.

This is how you retcon Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch to be mutants, they had a X-gene and the energy from the mind stone activated it.

Now after the energy of 3 “Snaps” from a gauntlet that had every Infinity Stone, that would potentially activate all the other people dormant X-genes...all this energy is now all out there. Now mutant genes are activated and can express themselves especially when one hits puberty.

The reactions and response from world governments or other people in the world would this immediately growing population of people would naturally open up a lot. People in the MCU had enough to worry about, and the idea of mutants would have not been talked about besides probably higher academia and possible government usage, but now everyone going from not even having mutants on their radar to talking about the possibly that suddenly Humanity could be outright replaced.

This allows their to be small mutant populations in the past, but you can make it as big as you want in the future.

 

[anthony1111]

All they need to do is mention "multiverse" and all problems are pretty much solved. Over explanation of how the mutants come about will be the worst thing they can do. It doesn't need to be complicated.

One throwaway line from the X-Men saying they've come from an alternate universe isn't a concept that's out of the realm of possibilities for the MCU especially when we have the quantum realm and even different versions of Earth being introduced in future films.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

I dont like alternate realities conception and I hope Mysterio lies

If mutants exist in main MCU movies but stayed hidden, its easy to explicate :

-X-gene was rare until 20st (Apocalypse, Selene in antiquity, Wolvy Sabret Mystique in 19st ...)

-In present day people possessing x-gene hide their powers, keeping it secret like enhanced humans (Murdock, Parker...) Mutants around the world in 20st, 21st are afraid of showing their faculties, and mutants with freaking skin are secretly killed or kidnapped by Sinister, who experimentate them since 18st

 

[x-er]

A lot of people here point out that it doesn't make sense for the Avengers and the X-Men to live in the same world; the Avengers are well-received whereas the X-Men (and all of mutantkind) are feared and hated. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's an alternate reality where the parallel of Stark industries is Trask Industries (instead of Iron Men there are Sentinels) and there are no Avengers, but there are X-Men. It would've been cool to see it come about because of their time-meddling in Endgame but I'm not sure how far into the past they traveled.

 

[imbruglia]

eternals has story that Sprite change the reality and wipe memory. so eternals forgot who they are and lost power. they live among humans and people also forgot eternals existence.

and what if Sprite did that same thing to mutants too. so all mutants lost their power, and forgot them being mutants, people also forgot mutants existence.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

We have to think about mutants who live since long time like Selene, Apocalyse, or Wolvy, Sabretooth

 

[x-er]

I think we will see some mutations come out of the time travel and possibly dr strange 2

However they set it up i think the core team would need to include wolverine (weapon plus) storm (Black Panther) and colossus

 

[Superhero 101]

I like the concept that they have been around and Xavier has been keeping them in hiding kind of like X-men evolution. the only problem with that would be magneto but I guess we could have Xavier mind wipe all their battles with magneto and make the media think that it was some kind of natural accident

 

[CyclopsSummers]

I Hope X-men exist since long time as clandestins (teenagers in 2010 I Am IM, and 30 yo in 2023 post Endgame)

 

[BarryAllen]

They could take inspiration from Earth X and have the Celestials seed the X-gene.

 

[BobJM]

I like the concept that they have been around and Xavier has been keeping them in hiding kind of like X-men evolution. the only problem with that would be magneto but I guess we could have Xavier mind wipe all their battles with magneto and make the media think that it was some kind of natural accident

This is my preference—I don’t think you need to overthink it. Mutants are a small population. When there’s a public display or some sort of ‘outing,’ Xavier keeps it quiet via some psychic tampering.

People like superheroes, but the unknown of mutants and who/what they are is enough to trigger a negative response amongst the MCU general public. Really, just imagine a montage of newsclips showcasing strange happenings in small towns across America—its just tabloid fodder, at first glance. Think Men in Black. But it’s Xavier.

 

[x-er]

Mysterious origin would be better, that’s exactly how it first happens in the comics anyway

 

[BoredGuy]

A lot of people here point out that it doesn't make sense for the Avengers and the X-Men to live in the same world; the Avengers are well-received whereas the X-Men (and all of mutantkind) are feared and hated. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's an alternate reality where the parallel of Stark industries is Trask Industries (instead of Iron Men there are Sentinels) and there are no Avengers, but there are X-Men. It would've been cool to see it come about because of their time-meddling in Endgame but I'm not sure how far into the past they traveled.

In the comics it doesn't make sense
but in the MCU it works just fine

The Avengers in the MCU are not so well received. They have a lot of detractors, a lot of people who think they're vigilantes and breaching international law and are just generally dangerous. So the idea of new people just randomly appearing with powers at an increasing rate, powers that put most of the Avengers to shame, would be terrifying for a lot of regular humans. Plus the fact that Wanda was tied to the event that lead to the Sokovia Accords is even better, she's a woman with "mysterious powers" who most people don't really know, and the second she failed to limit collateral damage (she didn't even cause the damage! Just failed to save everyone!) she became a pariah and a monster. With the Accords, Mutant Registration is basically already law in the MCU, so the X-Men being feared and hated-- especially if it comes out that Xavier has been affecting people's memories to keep them from remembering the X-Men-- would be perfectly sensible.

 

[x-er]

I guess it would make the audience feel what’s at stake for both sides if they were unexplained at first

The thing is there’s been the crazy finger snaps plus time travel, now the dr strange multiverses and there will be some other great potential causes, I’d be fine if the mutation didn’t even have a way to be traced back to the origin

 

[x-er]

News sources speculate they’ll be part of 50 characters in secret wars, that’s pretty exciting right?

 

[x-er]

Still think inexplicable origin is the best. Sometimes simpler is better