The Dark Knight Rises Hugo Strange

[Jokers_Wild]

The speculation continues. http://batman-news.com/2011/03/09/gary-oldman-hints-at-another-villain-in-the-dark-knight-rises/ I get the feeling us geeks will never truly let go of the Dr. Strange rumours until July 20, 2012.

I won't give up hope for now, not with the 'old villain' comments from Oldman. I've wanted Bane and Strange since before the first villain announcement. I just think that Robin in a smaller, yet pivotal role as the evil doctor, would add a little extra awesomeness to this movie!

 

[NHawk19]

Its the game that's making this one stick around I think.

 

[souvlaki]

The speculation continues. http://batman-news.com/2011/03/09/gary-oldman-hints-at-another-villain-in-the-dark-knight-rises/ I get the feeling us geeks will never truly let go of the Dr. Strange rumours until July 20, 2012.

I really want Strange to be in this but I think we are grasping at straws right now. To me it seems fairly obvious he's referencing Catwoman and I'm kind of confused as to how anyone is interpreting this differently. Oldman said it had a villain from the "old comics", and Catwoman has been around since 1940 so it's not like the description doesn't fit. To be honest I'd be surprised if Oldman would even know the character of Hugo Strange enough (if at all) to know how old of a villain he is even if he was in the script.

 

[ChrisB]

To be honest I'd be surprised if Oldman would even know the character of Hugo Strange enough (if at all) to know how old of a villain he is even if he was in the script.

That's why I think people are saying it could be Strange. Nolan could have said something like "Hugo Strange is the villain". Oldman says "who's that?", and Nolan replies "a villain from the old comics".

I don't think he was referring to Catwoman, because later on in the conversation he specifically commented on Hathaway as Catwoman.

 

[Oscorp]

That's why I think people are saying it could be Strange. Nolan could have said something like "Hugo Strange is the villain". Oldman says "who's that?", and Nolan replies "a villain from the old comics".

I don't think he was referring to Catwoman, because later on in the conversation he specifically commented on Hathaway as Catwoman.

That's exactly what I thought as well.

 

[souvlaki]

That's why I think people are saying it could be Strange. Nolan could have said something like "Hugo Strange is the villain". Oldman says "who's that?", and Nolan replies "a villain from the old comics".

I don't think he was referring to Catwoman, because later on in the conversation he specifically commented on Hathaway as Catwoman.

I can't watch the interview right now but was the Catwoman comment a response to a question asked by the interviewer? Maybe he made the initial comment so as to not give away who the villain was, but once the interviewer brought up Catwoman or Anne Hathaway he knew there wasn't much of a point in hiding who the villain was. Not saying it couldn't be Hugo Strange, I'm just sick of getting my hopes up.

 

[ChrisB]

I can't watch the interview right now but was the Catwoman comment a response to a question asked by the interviewer? Maybe he made the initial comment so as to not give away who the villain was, but once the interviewer brought up Catwoman or Anne Hathaway he knew there wasn't much of a point in hiding who the villain was. Not saying it couldn't be Hugo Strange, I'm just sick of getting my hopes up.

This one wasn't a video interview, it was just a written article. You're right though, the "thoughts on Hathaway joining as Catwoman" did come up at the end of the article. I don't think it's definitely Hugo Strange either...I just assumed he wasn't talking about Catwoman when he said "old old villain".

 

[DIRECTOR]

Hugo Strange? Could it be, the beard?

 

[Mister H.]

Oldman obviously wasn't referring to Catwoman, as he jokes that he would be killed if he revealed who the villain is. Why people are suggesting that he was just referencing Bane or Catwoman is beyond me...those characters have been confirmed by Nolan himself-- no big secret there.

Hugo Strange was the guy I wanted, so I'm still clinging to a thread of hope. Clayface is the only other guy that I think would make sense, if you go with the master-of-disguise angle from the early days. That could be quite interesting in a Nolan crime drama, err Batman film.

 

[Boom]

As epic as the beard is, I'm sure it's for his Broadway show.

 

[Superboy-Prime]

screw 3rd Rock from the Sun boy he looks way too young, give us

 

[ronny]

I disagree. Allow me to explain:

Levitt as Strange makes sense if they are going in a slightly different direction with the character. Let's look at our villains so far. Men in suits, well dressed men, even the homicidal schizophrenic clown with zero empathy wore some pretty snappy duds.
Now, Strange is often shown the same way in the comics. Old guy in a suit.

But this isn't like Joker's purple attire, it doesn't define what Hugo Strange is.
What does define him?
Bald, beard, Lennon-glasses.

But above all, the fact that he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He intially appears as someone trying to help the city, as a good man. But beneath it all is a damaged, bitter individual suffering from severe schizophrenic delusions. Batman is the focal point of these delusions, But Strange was always a real sick puppy, Bats is just someone he's latched onto as a symbol of physical and mental perfection.

His age is irrelevant compared to these facts. Sure, he is often seen as quite old. But I for one would relish the chance to see a younger Hugo Strange. Less a psychologist and more of a New Age-guru. Mind-****ing his enemies whilst outwardly appearing as a serene, enlightened healer.

He'd wear very casual clothes, almost resembling a student backpacker trying to 'find themselves' but it's all a ploy to make himself appear harmless. Basically, Strange would resemble an Ira Einhorn type figure.

Someone smart, possessed of a certain charisma. But unnaturally driven and very, very cruel. Again, a wolf in sheeps clothing. Age is irrelevant. Levitt could revitalise this character.

 

[Superboy-Prime]

I disagree. Allow me to explain:

Levitt as Strange makes sense if they are going in a slightly different direction with the character. Let's look at our villains so far. Men in suits, well dressed men, even the homicidal schizophrenic clown with zero empathy wore some pretty snappy duds.
Now, Strange is often shown the same way in the comics. Old guy in a suit.

But this isn't like Joker's purple attire, it doesn't define what Hugo Strange is.
What does define him?
Bald, beard, Lennon-glasses.

But above all, the fact that he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He intially appears as someone trying to help the city, as a good man. But beneath it all is a damaged, bitter individual suffering from severe schizophrenic delusions. Batman is the focal point of these delusions, But Strange was always a real sick puppy, Bats is just someone he's latched onto as a symbol of physical and mental perfection.

His age is irrelevant compared to these facts. Sure, he is often seen as quite old. But I for one would relish the chance to see a younger Hugo Strange. Less a psychologist and more of a New Age-guru. Mind-****ing his enemies whilst outwardly appearing as a serene, enlightened healer.

He'd wear very casual clothes, almost resembling a student backpacker trying to 'find themselves' but it's all a ploy to make himself appear harmless. Basically, Strange would resemble an Ira Einhorn type figure.

Someone smart, possessed of a certain charisma. But unnaturally driven and very, very cruel. Again, a wolf in sheeps clothing. Age is irrelevant. Levitt could revitalise this character.

So basically you want a different version of Strange because you are on the Levitt bandwagon?

Come on dude, Robin Williams is the perfect fit for Strange. go watch One Hour Photo, he is an incredible actor and would blow it out of the water. Levitt looks WAY too young.

 

[ronny]

Why do you do that? Why do you try an invalidate everything I wrote?
I go to a lot of effort to put thought into my ideas and you just stroll in and say that it's unacceptable. No real reasons, no reasons beyond anything superficial.
Could you at least acknowledge that I put some thought into it? Could you do that, at least?

It's like I write a massive, comprehensive post about why Bane is a good choice for TDKR and someone just comes along, quotes me and says 'wrong'. Nothing else, just 'wrong'. Because they haven't got the intelligence to make any real rebuttals beyond idiotic, slavish fanboy ranting.

Why do I even bother posting if you just pass off what I say like that?

 

[The Cocreator]

There's still another villain nobody would remember of and would make sence for nobody to reference it:
Doctor Death, one of batman's first recurrying villain.

 

[CinematicESP]

I disagree. Allow me to explain:

Levitt as Strange makes sense if they are going in a slightly different direction with the character. Let's look at our villains so far. Men in suits, well dressed men, even the homicidal schizophrenic clown with zero empathy wore some pretty snappy duds.
Now, Strange is often shown the same way in the comics. Old guy in a suit.

But this isn't like Joker's purple attire, it doesn't define what Hugo Strange is.
What does define him?
Bald, beard, Lennon-glasses.

But above all, the fact that he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. He intially appears as someone trying to help the city, as a good man. But beneath it all is a damaged, bitter individual suffering from severe schizophrenic delusions. Batman is the focal point of these delusions, But Strange was always a real sick puppy, Bats is just someone he's latched onto as a symbol of physical and mental perfection.

His age is irrelevant compared to these facts. Sure, he is often seen as quite old. But I for one would relish the chance to see a younger Hugo Strange. Less a psychologist and more of a New Age-guru. Mind-****ing his enemies whilst outwardly appearing as a serene, enlightened healer.

He'd wear very casual clothes, almost resembling a student backpacker trying to 'find themselves' but it's all a ploy to make himself appear harmless. Basically, Strange would resemble an Ira Einhorn type figure.

Someone smart, possessed of a certain charisma. But unnaturally driven and very, very cruel. Again, a wolf in sheeps clothing. Age is irrelevant. Levitt could revitalise this character.

I agree. I think both JGL or Robin Williams would be great, depending on where they take the character. One of the big things about Hugo Strange is that he becomes obsessed with Batman and tries to usurp him. If they went with that angle, it would make much more sense for a young guy like JGL to put on a Batsuit and pose a physical threat to Bruce as well as psychological. With an older, out of shape actor, that would just be silly.

 

[Superboy-Prime]

Why do you do that? Why do you try an invalidate everything I wrote?
I go to a lot of effort to put thought into my ideas and you just stroll in and say that it's unacceptable. No real reasons, no reasons beyond anything superficial.
Could you at least acknowledge that I put some thought into it? Could you do that, at least?

It's like I write a massive, comprehensive post about why Bane is a good choice for TDKR and someone just comes along, quotes me and says 'wrong'. Nothing else, just 'wrong'. Because they haven't got the intelligence to make any real rebuttals beyond idiotic, slavish fanboy ranting.

Why do I even bother posting if you just pass off what I say like that?

Because you want Levitt only because there is some form of weird obsession with him around these forums. Levitt is a good actor but he is no Hugo Strange, why change Stranges persona and what he looks like just to tailor fit an actor? Levitt would make a good Robin, or Nightwing or Scarecrow, he is an adult but he still looks young, way too young to be Hugo Strange.



Williams is the perfect fit for Strange, Levitt however is not.

 

[Boom]

He really would be absolutely perfect.

 

[ronny]

Because you want Levitt only because there is some form of weird obsession with him around these forums.

NO I ****ING WELL DON'T.
And if you read my post you'd understand that. But you didn't read it, did you? The moment you saw the name 'Levitt', you switched off.
Why do I even bother?

 

[Superboy-Prime]

NO I ****ING WELL DON'T.
And if you read my post you'd understand that. But you didn't read it, did you? The moment you saw the name 'Levitt', you switched off.
Why do I even bother?

Dude calm down, I read your post and I posted why I believe Levitt is a bad choice for Hugo Strange, what you want to do is completely change Hugo Strange just so Levitt can play him, its silly......

 

[Nevincer]

Uh-oh... I don't like where this is going

 

[Travesty]

Uh-oh... I don't like where this is going

Shhhh, you'll scare them away.

*goes back to eating popcorn.

 

[the amazing fro]

^ LOL Travesty

On the age issue I think Strange's age is an essential part of his character. He is desperately trying to retain his youth by being as physically fit as possible. But he is still old which is made apparent by the rejection of the mayors daughter in prey. You can work out all you want but age is going to catch up with you. He kind of sees Batman as the epitome of human perfection- a stage that he can never live up to due to his age. He's past it. He's had his chance and he failed to live up to it. His obsession of batman is derived from admiration and his hate is derived from what he knows he can never achieve.

 

[Doctor Who]

Shhhh, you'll scare them away.

*goes back to eating popcorn.

Pass the snickers and I'll get the camera.

 

[ronny]

^ LOL Travesty

On the age issue I think Strange's age is an essential part of his character. He is desperate trying to retain his youth by being as physically fit as possible. But he is still old which is made apparent by the rejection of the mayors daughter in prey. You can work out all you want but age is going to catch up with you. He kind of sees Batman as the epitome of human perfection- a stage that he can never live up to due to his age. He's past it. He's had his chance and he failed to live up to it. His obsession of batman is derived from admiration and his hate is derived from what he knows he can never achieve.

Great, well thought-out response. Thank you

Yes, I certainly see your reasoning. But I must ask, do you think that Strange being an old man makes him a bit too pitiful? He's a sick, twisted man who latches on to the Batman identity as a cure for all his problems.
When you figure out that he's a confused old man, do you think that allows audiences to sympathise with him a bit too much?

I do see your reasoning. But I feel that the schizoid delusions Strange has are far more important than his age. Like this moment in Prey where he begins dancing in his weird bat-costume:

If you were to cast an older actor it would certainly be more unsettling when he pulled **** like that. Because you wouldn't expect it from a rather dour, dignified psychologist.

However, I would really relish the chance to see a younger man take on the role. Perhaps add the screwed-up emotions and warped reasoning of many real-life celebrity stalkers. Whilst of course hiding in plain sight.

The thing is, Strange looks so odd that it's not much of a disguise. His personality should be more urbane, more care-free. So it comes as a shock when you see what a neurotic, demented ****-up he really is.

Yeah, I think Levitt could nail this part. But don't be deluded into thinking that I came up with these ideas to justify why I want Levitt to play Strange. I just want a different take on the character. In terms of dress, outward personality and age.