The Caped Knight
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Spoiler Alert Disney has officially released a clip featuring The Jolly Green Giant in all his glory. I guess it's open season now...
Man... None of that equals you or anyone knowing with 100% certainty that any of the film makers "don't like Hulk".
That's your conclusion that I'm rebutting. Be disappointed. I understand the reasoning behind that. Wish that things were different, even dismissing the monumental task of reworking a hugely complex undertaking like this film? Have at it. What if to your fanboy's heart's content.
That doesn't change that "They just don't like Hulk" isn't a rational conclusion and is based on an emotional response.
I didn’t say that they didn’t like Hulk with 100% certainty, I don’t have a clue what their thinking was, I have never met the Russo’s or the writers. But I said judging from Hulks poor showing in IW and EG, it feels like either they don’t like the character, or they don’t know how to write him.
Not once did I state any of this was a 100% fact, or that it was a definitive conclusion, it just how it felt as a fan of the character. So again, I am not agreeing with your point.
I’d be curious to see if Ruffalo’s still in the game or if this was his final bow.
I’d be curious to see if Ruffalo’s still in the game or if this was his final bow.
The idea of being a fan has old – and odd – roots. Merriam-Webster defines a fan as “a very enthusiastic supporter or admirer.” The word fan itself came about as a shortened form of the word fanatic, meaning “marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion.”Feb 3, 2016
I honestly don’t understand why we criticize people for being passionate about the character or speaking(typing) with emotion about the character when that’s part of the territory. I also don’t understand why we call people fanboys when going by the above definition we are all fans or we wouldn’t be here. To me that just seems rude and almost as if your opinion is the only opinion that matters and all others are foolish.
We all have opinions about the character and truthfully it’s subjective, whether you like the direction or hate the direction they took the character. How about we just try to discuss both ways without resorting to childish insults like calling people we don’t know fanboys or calling people out for being emotional about a character they are truly a fan of . That’s what fans do, whether it be for a sports team or their favorite character...
I didn’t like the direction they took the Hulk in these last two Avengers movies, but understand people did like it, and respect that. Reasonable discussion should be what these boards are about, not childish insults and dismissing others viewpoints.
That said, Banner proving some sort of tactical skill (something they gave Hulk in the comics so that he could function without Banner) doesn't make sense to me, that's not his interest or character. I would have liked maybe a little BJJ as a reference to the Norton Hulk movie, but leaving Hulk with some fight in him leaves you with a major problem: How do you end Hulk's story? If he regenerates... then how can Ruffalo retire, or even take a backseat. If Hulk's powers make him Hulk Forever, where do you put him? Captain Marvel only works because you can put her on a dozen other planets. Hulk has to be able to be sat down, he has to have an end point. I think they could have done better, but it's not as if what we got was some kind of hatred. Maybe it was entirely the opposite.
Yeah, that was all that was missing. Pretty important though lol.I honestly loved how they handled Hulk in this movie. His arc makes complete sense. I do wish we had seen him let loose, but oh well, you can't get everything.
Hulk was amazing in Avengers 1 and Ragnarok. It’s a shame we didn’t get to see him do more in the 2 biggest MCU films. I’m interested in the Professor Hulk angle as long as he still Hulks out.I have to agree and say that of all the mcu movies with Hulk IW & EG should have given us the best Hulk-Out moments. We got nothing. I get it but its definitely disappointing that we feel Hulk wasn't redeemed in that savage sense. We didn't see this Hulk do any kind of smashing!
That is such a stupid opinion.Hulk was emasculated.
His rage = toxic masculinity. Can't have that.
I'm so done with the MCU aka SJWU
Hulk was emasculated.
His rage = toxic masculinity. Can't have that.
I'm so done with the MCU aka SJWU
Bruce Banner fears his alter ego because across practically almost every media (the comics from the character's creation to the recent and excellent Immortal Hulk series, the Bixby tv series, the movies etc) it's been specified over and over again that the rage of the Hulk is not a positive thing in it's entirety and considering, thanks to Peter David, where that rage stems from (the abuse Banner suffered as a child under his father) I don't see the issue with the thematic idea of Bruce trying to completely control that aspect of himself.
Some of my favorite moments in hulk history came as professor hulk...
It also potentially sets up the single coolest moment in hulk history in onslaught ( though it could be done with any uber threat) where professor hulk asks jean grey ( or maybe wanda in this case) to “turn off” banner and goes super savage... we still haven’t really gotten that “hulk is the strongest one there is” moment yet
Hulk was emasculated.
His rage = toxic masculinity. Can't have that.
I'm so done with the MCU aka SJWU