The Dark Knight I guess joker just applies make-up after all

[Prefix]

It always comes down to that.

 

[nickyg641]

Something tells me that Solidus is lurking, typing up this extremely long post about Joker's skin right nowt:

I'm looking forward to it t:

 

[gwynplaine]

When you said Jack used Bugs as an inspiration I at first thought you were talking about Johnny Depp as Jack Sparrow lol

But I would say that speaks volumes about their interpretations. Jack sectionally used Bugs Bunny as an influence while Heath sectionally used Clockwork Orange as an influence. Admittedly I am more partial to the direction of the Joker in B'89 but I'd say I prefer the character of The Joker being more like Alex DeLarge than Bugs Bunny.

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[Mr. Socko]

The themed characters of Nolan's Gotham do not look much like I'd want them to nor how I imagine them to look but they end up pretty good in characterization and good performances- Neeson as Ra's, Cillian as Crane, Heath as Joker- so I still enjoy it all. So the answer to this thread...perma-white does count as an attribute. Some like it, some don't. But in the end, it's not something that will make me or anyone dislike the movie. We're all still capable of enjoying it for the most part.

 

[Marx]

The themed characters of Nolan's Gotham do not look much like I'd want them to nor how I imagine them to look but they end up pretty good in characterization and good performances- Neeson as Ra's, Cillian as Crane, Heath as Joker- so I still enjoy it all. So the answer to this thread...perma-white does count as an attribute. Some like it, some don't. But in the end, it's not something that will make me or anyone dislike the movie. We're all still capable of enjoying it for the most part.

I would certainly hope so. I mean after all, IT'S NOT B&R, right?

 

[Sidepocket]

And btw there are a lot of people who don't find Gacy interesting at all and consider him to be just a sick f**k (Quoting Nepenthes) and who believe that this weird and morbid interest that those killers seem to generate is just the reflection of a sick society as well. Whatever turns you on, dude, but once again no need for name calling.

Dude, they are serial killers.

They are all sick ****s.

****ing DUH!

What is the point of this really? You like a man who has white skin, red lips, and kills people in ****ing "children's" books. I wonder what that says about you?

Call him sick, yes he is! But saying that Gacy was not interesting is so off the mark that it is nothing. I do not worship the man, if you called to me any serial killer "uninteresting" then I personally am worried about your mental health and scare on what you find "interesting" and much more "normal".

If that kind of stuff does not move you, wow. Stay away from my kids.

Oh and if you are wondering why, Templesmith and I want to do a Batman/Teen Titans comic one day. Just like how the idea for Joker or Batman was not just totally out of Bob's head, when you are creating new villians and re-imagining some old ones, real criminals are a good place to start from.

In short, **** off.

Oh, and everyone else has a good point. Bravo that people are finally understanding were Heath's Joker is coming from and are not clinging to Batman '89 like it was the bible.

Its ironic too, because this whole thing reminds me of all the controversial casting that people were saying about that movie! Like how they casted an actor known for comedy for Batman! Boy did that fail...oh wait...

 

[Marx]

Dude, they are serial killers.

They are all sick ****s.

****ing DUH!

What is the point of this really? You like a man who has white skin, red lips, and kills people in ****ing "children's" books. I wonder what that says about you?

Call him sick, yes he is! But saying that Gacy was not interesting is so off the mark that it is nothing. I do not worship the man, if you called to me any serial killer "uninteresting" then I personally am worried about your mental health and scare on what you find "interesting" and much more "normal".

If that kind of stuff does not move you, wow. Stay away from my kids.

Oh and if you are wondering why, Templesmith and I want to do a Batman/Teen Titans comic one day. Just like how the idea for Joker or Batman was not just totally out of Bob's head, when you are creating new villians and re-imagining some old ones, real criminals are a good place to start from.

In short, **** off.

Oh, and everyone else has a good point. Bravo that people are finally understanding were Heath's Joker is coming from and are not clinging to Batman '89 like it was the bible.

Its ironic too, because this whole thing reminds me of all the controversial casting that people were saying about that movie! Like how they casted an actor known for comedy for Batman! Boy did that fail...oh wait...

Is that really necessary Sidepocket?

 

[Mr. Socko]

I would certainly hope so. I mean after all, IT'S NOT B&R, right?

Such poor characterization on just about everyone

TDK seems to be the exact opposite in every way.

Call him sick, yes he is! But saying that Gacy was not interesting is so off the mark that it is nothing. I do not worship the man, if you called to me any serial killer "uninteresting" then I personally am worried about your mental health and scare on what you find "interesting" and much more "normal".

An interest would be a fascination. I personally do not find John Gacy nor any real life serial killer fascinating nor interesting, it is completely different from a fictional character manipulated through writing that we are predisposed to like. I have no interest in Gacy, I simply find him a sick individual that I really care to know nothing about. If his name was never mentioned again on this earth, I would not be disappointed.

 

[Crook]

An interest would be a fascination. I personally do not find John Gacy nor any real life serial killer fascinating nor interesting, it is completely different from a fictional character manipulated through writing that we are predisposed to like.

1) I don't see how it's any different

2) Joker wasn't predisposed to us to be liked at all. He was supposed to be a one-shot villain. He only came back because of the fan response. Which indicates that he WAS interesting.

 

[Marx]

Such poor characterization on just about everyone

TDK seems to be the exact opposite in every way.

Yeah, it looks as those TDK will get it right!

 

[Saint]

Is that really necessary Sidepocket?

I don't see why the mods haven't done anything about him. On two separate occasions this past week he has called people *******s for using what he described as "big words." I've seen members chastised for less, so I guess he's just not being noticed.

 

[gwynplaine]

Dude, they are serial killers.

They are all sick ****s.

****ing DUH!

What is the point of this really? You like a man who has white skin, red lips, and kills people in ****ing "children's" books. I wonder what that says about you?

Call him sick, yes he is! But saying that Gacy was not interesting is so off the mark that it is nothing. I do not worship the man, if you called to me any serial killer "uninteresting" then I personally am worried about your mental health and scare on what you find "interesting" and much more "normal".

If that kind of stuff does not move you, wow. Stay away from my kids.

Oh and if you are wondering why, Templesmith and I want to do a Batman/Teen Titans comic one day. Just like how the idea for Joker or Batman was not just totally out of Bob's head, when you are creating new villians and re-imagining some old ones, real criminals are a good place to start from.

In short, **** off.

Oh, and everyone else has a good point. Bravo that people are finally understanding were Heath's Joker is coming from and are not clinging to Batman '89 like it was the bible.

Its ironic too, because this whole thing reminds me of all the controversial casting that people were saying about that movie! Like how they casted an actor known for comedy for Batman! Boy did that fail...oh wait...

I have absolutely no interest in what you have to say, so just leave me alone.

 

[Mr. Socko]

1) I don't see how it's any different

2) Joker wasn't predisposed to us to be liked at all. He was supposed to be a one-shot villain. He only came back because of the fan response. Which indicates that he WAS interesting.

You are right with number 2. My mistake there.

As for the first, the difference is fictional characters can be manipulated to be loved or hated. It's also got a lot to do with points of view. As silly as it sounds, I find Hannibal Lecter a very interesting character. But that's the way the author makes him, he's given style and 'pinash.' On the other hand I can't say I find his real life counterpart- Jeffrey Dahmer interesting at all. Just completely twisted, but I would also say it comes from the fear of knowing that a person like Hannibal Lecter actually existed in real life.

V for Vendetta is another good example, though different. The film and novel both partially come from his point of view. He's characterized as the hero, we're manipulated into liking him and cheering for him. But in real life, I don't think any of us cheer for terrorists who blow up capitals. But it's okay to cheer for that person in a book

 

[The Battousai]

You are right with number 2. My mistake there.

As for the first, the difference is fictional characters can be manipulated to be loved or hated. It's also got a lot to do with points of view. As silly as it sounds, I find Hannibal Lecter a very interesting character. But that's the way the author makes him, he's given style and 'pinash.' On the other hand I can't say I find his real life counterpart- Jeffrey Dahmer interesting at all. Just completely twisted, but I would also say it comes from the fear of knowing that a person like Hannibal Lecter actually existed in real life.

V for Vendetta is another good example, though different. The film and novel both partially come from his point of view. He's characterized as the hero, we're manipulated into liking him and cheering for him. But in real life, I don't think any of us cheer for terrorists who blow up capitals. But it's okay to cheer for that person in a book

Good points

Spoiler

pinache*

 

[gwynplaine]

You are right with number 2. My mistake there.

As for the first, the difference is fictional characters can be manipulated to be loved or hated. It's also got a lot to do with points of view. As silly as it sounds, I find Hannibal Lecter a very interesting character. But that's the way the author makes him, he's given style and 'pinash.' On the other hand I can't say I find his real life counterpart- Jeffrey Dahmer interesting at all. Just completely twisted, but I would also say it comes from the fear of knowing that a person like Hannibal Lecter actually existed in real life.

V for Vendetta is another good example, though different. The film and novel both partially come from his point of view. He's characterized as the hero, we're manipulated into liking him and cheering for him. But in real life, I don't think any of us cheer for terrorists who blow up capitals. But it's okay to cheer for that person in a book

Well said, Mr Socko .

 

[Crook]

You are right with number 2. My mistake there.

As for the first, the difference is fictional characters can be manipulated to be loved or hated. It's also got a lot to do with points of view. As silly as it sounds, I find Hannibal Lecter a very interesting character. But that's the way the author makes him, he's given style and 'pinash.' On the other hand I can't say I find his real life counterpart- Jeffrey Dahmer interesting at all. Just completely twisted, but I would also say it comes from the fear of knowing that a person like Hannibal Lecter actually existed in real life.

V for Vendetta is another good example, though different. The film and novel both partially come from his point of view. He's characterized as the hero, we're manipulated into liking him and cheering for him. But in real life, I don't think any of us cheer for terrorists who blow up capitals. But it's okay to cheer for that person in a book

True, but does that really change the fact of what they are? It may be manipulated, but it's stemmed from the very same foundation, only told through a different and subdued perspective.

Take your example, Hannibal and Dahmer. Do you feel you'd have some invested interest in Dahmer, if his story was told through the same manipulation Hannibal had?

If so, then the differences between art and real life aren't too different.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Thanks guys and I knew I was spelling it wrong Batt, thx for the correction

True, but does that really change the fact of what they are? It may be manipulated, but it's stemmed from the very same foundation, only told through a different and subdued perspective.

Take your example, Hannibal and Dahmer. Do you feel you'd have some invested interest in Dahmer, if his story was told through the same manipulation Hannibal had?

If so, then the differences between art and real life aren't too different.

Snap!

Even though mine was more interesting you present a good point

 

[regwec]

Dude, they are serial killers.

They are all sick ****s.

****ing DUH!

What is the point of this really? You like a man who has white skin, red lips, and kills people in ****ing "children's" books. I wonder what that says about you?

Call him sick, yes he is! But saying that Gacy was not interesting is so off the mark that it is nothing. I do not worship the man, if you called to me any serial killer "uninteresting" then I personally am worried about your mental health and scare on what you find "interesting" and much more "normal".

If that kind of stuff does not move you, wow. Stay away from my kids.

Oh and if you are wondering why, Templesmith and I want to do a Batman/Teen Titans comic one day. Just like how the idea for Joker or Batman was not just totally out of Bob's head, when you are creating new villians and re-imagining some old ones, real criminals are a good place to start from.

In short, **** off.

Oh, and everyone else has a good point. Bravo that people are finally understanding were Heath's Joker is coming from and are not clinging to Batman '89 like it was the bible.

Its ironic too, because this whole thing reminds me of all the controversial casting that people were saying about that movie! Like how they casted an actor known for comedy for Batman! Boy did that fail...oh wait...

You owe Gwynplaine an apology.

Conduct yourself with more maturity in future.

 

[CaptainClown]

I am sorry Regwec but I am still laughing at sidepocket calling you a wannabe Rahs Al Ghul.

 

[DaddyGrayson]

I am sorry Regwec but I am still laughing at sidepocket calling you a wannabe Rahs Al Ghul.

He what? Hahaha.

 

[CaptainClown]

ya; apparently our avvy reflects who we want to be according to sidepocket.
So you would be some guy who wants to be a pretty girl
I want to be the Joker and Regwec wants to be Rahs.

He also accused Regwec of wanting to be rahs because Reg uses big words...

 

[DaddyGrayson]

ya; apparently our avvy reflects who we want to be according to sidepocket.
So you would be some guy who wants to be a pretty girl
I want to be the Joker and Regwec wants to be Rahs.

He also accused Regwec of wanting to be rahs because Reg uses big words...

Hahaha. Wow. Now everytime someone uses big words I'm going to tell them to stop trying to be like the Demon's Head. And then flash my fantastic smile at them. Haha.

 

[regwec]

I am going to change my avvy to Monica Bellucci, and then play with myself.

 

[Matchbox]

I am going to change my avvy to Monica Bellucci, and then play with myself.

And I thought this thread couldn't get any more disturbing. t:

 

[Crook]

I am going to change my avvy to Monica Bellucci, and then play with myself.

So you're turning yourself into a hot brunette, and taking advantage of the situation in your newfound shell?








OMG....you really do wanna be like Ra's! Sickening!