The Dark Knight I guess joker just applies make-up after all

What do you think of the latest pic of heath ledger as mista J?

  • Yes its fine that he's a regualr guy that applies white make-up

  • No because his skin should be bleached like its always been


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First I've heard of this...


me too! evertime i hear that twoface guys last name, i think of this dude. hes actually been in alot of my favorite movies, star wars , raiders, batman.
 
Lee's Dracula also carried great elegance and charm. Orlok sure as hell did not.


I may be the only one but I'd love to see Dracula in this franchise. Knowing Nolan, he'd actually be able to pull off a scary Dracula. :applaud
 
Knowing Nolan, we'd have a Dracula that steals blood packs and wears trench coats. :o
 
I may be the only one but I'd love to see Dracula in this franchise. Knowing Nolan, he'd actually be able to pull off a scary Dracula. :applaud


You can't have a proper Dracula without an R rating, and you are certainly alone in that my friend.
 
Yeah, I know, I just thought it'd be something cool to see. But honestly, I want Bane in the third Batman movie.
 
Ah, I see what you're saying. That was a great picture, good point, that one really did ooze wit, charm, and evilness all together. I definitely saw the mesmerism in that one.

"That was a great picture, good point, that one really did ooze, wit, charm, and evilness."
 
Unfortunately, I have not. Am I missing out on a funny reference here?:csad:
 
Unfortunately, I have not. Am I missing out on a funny reference here?:csad:
They're trying to get him to fly a plane, and he say's "I can't fly an airliner. It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether!"

And they reply, all together, "It's an entirely different kind of flying."

I suppose it was stupid, because it was only me saying it...but, at least it amused my senses.
 
They're trying to get him to fly a plane, and he say's "I can't fly an airliner. It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether!"

And they reply, all together, "It's an entirely different kind of flying."

I suppose it was stupid, because it was only me saying it...but, at least it amused my senses.

Ah! Now I see it - I forgot about that scene :O Great stuff :up:
 
They're trying to get him to fly a plane, and he say's "I can't fly an airliner. It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether!"

And they reply, all together, "It's an entirely different kind of flying."

I suppose it was stupid, because it was only me saying it...but, at least it amused my senses.


I get it LOL:woot:
 
I now love the new Joker. His look is great, perma-white isn't necessary and we will get the best comic book villain evaaah! He's perfect in nearly everyway. I don't care about the perma-white anymore, he's still The Joker.
 
I now love the new Joker. His look is great, perma-white isn't necessary and we will get the best comic book villain evaaah! He's perfect in nearly everyway. I don't care about the perma-white anymore, he's still The Joker.

Was that sarcastic or serious? :huh:
 
Glad to see you came around. What gave you this change of heart?

Oh I always thought Heath would be nothing less than terrific on every level, I just wasn't previously fond of the look. I've just come around to thinking it's really well done, and looks great in it's own right instead of comparing how different it is with the comic book look. It's not Bolland but it's something different yet similar...it's great. No concerns as far as this Joker goes.:o
 
Oh I always thought Heath would be nothing less than terrific on every level, I just wasn't previously fond of the look. I've just come around to thinking it's really well done, and looks great in it's own right instead of comparing how different it is with the comic book look. It's not Bolland but it's something different yet similar...it's great. No concerns as far as this Joker goes.:o


Wow, great point in your previous statements. I'm glad to see you liking Heath's creation.
 
Im still cautious Joker seems written well for TDK im just not sure about Ledger himself i dont want to be watching scenes and think to myself "thats so fake" thats the feeling i get when i hear the voice so far but thats only a few clips in a big film so im still optimistic.

I think it will take a few years after the film to truely dissect it BB was touted as gods presence on earth by some upoun its release a film that was absolutely perfect in all ways but its (many) flaws have started to be discussed in mature manner later down the line disscussions not dominated by fanboys calling people not totally happy with the movie scum and other unflattering names the same for TDK i think.
 
Im still cautious Joker seems written well for TDK im just not sure about Ledger himself i dont want to be watching scenes and think to myself "thats so fake" thats the feeling i get when i hear the voice so far but thats only a few clips in a big film so im still optimistic.

I think it will take a few years after the film to truely dissect it BB was touted as gods presence on earth by some upoun its release a film that was absolutely perfect in all ways but its (many) flaws have started to be discussed in mature manner later down the line disscussions not dominated by fanboys calling people not totally happy with the movie scum and other unflattering names the same for TDK i think.

It had its flaws, but it was still an excellent movie. This fanboy nonsense is really getting old. Not everyone who liked it is a fanboy. Get over it already and move on.
 
I now love the new Joker. His look is great, perma-white isn't necessary and we will get the best comic book villain evaaah! He's perfect in nearly everyway. I don't care about the perma-white anymore, he's still The Joker.

And the battle wages on. I'm glad at least some are starting to come around. Personally, I've been a die-hard Batman & Hulk fan since I can remember, but I just never got the whole uproar over this new look, as I said before, for anyone who saw BB and didn't expect at least something close to this for his new look, it just baffles me. But I am starting to understand some of the complaints, just as some are starting to come to terms with the look.

I will say this about it though, for me, I think it brings the Joker even closer to Batman's polar opposite than before. In the comics, I never got the feeling the Joker was really human, although he's supposed to be. Anybody who falls into chemicals and their body completely changes like that, it always struck me as supernatural in some way. Combine that with the constant instances of Joker escaping certain death, and his own immunity to his toxins, and he always came across, TO ME, as more than human.

Now with Nolan's version, IMO, I find it definitely more eerie, and terrifying, that this is just a man, with no chemical alterations to his body or mind, and he's still just as crazy. Batman is just a man with extreme training who made a vow to protect Gotham, and now the Joker is just a man with the exact opposite goal, to wreck and destroy Gotham for no reason. It doesn't seem Batman has anything to do with his scarring, as some suggested early on, there's no revenge factor like there is in the CB. He comes across as just a real-life serial killer type, killing and robbing with not an inkling of a reason. Somebody who willingly paints their face this way just seems much more frightening, than someone who happened to fall into chemicals and go crazy.

By most accounts, even though there's no concrete story, somewhere in his past, the CB Joker was a normal enough guy, but I dont get that impression with Nolan's Joker. I can see where a chemical bath may make you a tad crazy, getting a few cuts on your face, ehh.. I'm not so sure, it happens to people everyday. They even said with the wardrobe that they wanted it to look like this is stuff he's been wearing the whole time. "One bad day" didn't create this Joker, as Nolan said he's the absolute of the film, there are no redeeming qualities. Because of all this, I suspect he's been insane for a good part of his life, the scarring's just the icing on the cake that gave him a persona or identity, and to me, that makes for an infinitely more dangerous and intriguing opponent...
 
Im still cautious Joker seems written well for TDK im just not sure about Ledger himself i dont want to be watching scenes and think to myself "thats so fake" thats the feeling i get when i hear the voice so far but thats only a few clips in a big film so im still optimistic.
Of course you'll be thinking that. It doesn't matter how fantastic Heath's performance is, you've been bashing his Joker before you even so much as saw a trailer, and will continue to do so. You're too narrow minded to accept any interpretation of the Joker that doesn't fit your snooty standards. How humorous that you accuse others of being fanboys.
I think it will take a few years after the film to truely dissect it BB was touted as gods presence on earth by some upoun its release a film that was absolutely perfect in all ways but its (many) flaws have started to be discussed in mature manner later down the line disscussions not dominated by fanboys calling people not totally happy with the movie scum and other unflattering names the same for TDK i think.
Many flaws? It was flawed, yes, but I wouldn't say that it was any more flawed than any of the Batman films that came before it. It should also be pointed out that we've got people who exaggerate the flaws that are there, even to the point of implying that Batman Begins is as bad as Batman and Robin. :whatever: One sees a lot of that kind of foolishness on IMDB, which is why I stopped bothering to go there a long time ago. Oh yeah, and people making mountains out of molehills, such as the guy who was saying that he was bugged by certain characters taking their reading glasses off. lol.

It's also interesting that you call those with a different opinion an unflattering name in the very same statement where you accuse them of doing the same thing. But I digress.

Despite its flaws, Batman Begins is still the most critically acclaimed batfilm to date. And while that doesn't mean that it's better than the films that came before it (everyone has their own preferences and such), it does mean that it's something special to the Batman fandom. And I suspect that TDK will surpass it, both in quality and in the praise it receives. I just can't wait to see you moping about it when that happens.
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