I Just Finished the GN And....

[ManofmyWord]

Of course loved it. To be honest, I hadn't really ever heard of Watchmen until I started posting here, and even still, didnt play much attention until the Trailer came out. I got the GN Tuesday and just finished it, I must say it painted the conceptions I had from the trailer in a seriously differnet way(I was for sure It would end with Nuclear Holocaust...The "Squid" caught me 100% off guard)

But I'm amazed at just how much detail and backstory there is. I wasn't too fond of the black freighter story, but I found the relationship between the two Bernards touching, espically with it's payoff. Anyway, the reason I started this thread is because of a few questions I had as I put it down.

First off, Dr. Manhattan was Surprised and horrified at the thought of people getting Cancer from him. Yet he knows everything pretty much...So he must knew he would confront Verdit and learn the ttruth...so Why did he exile himself? Or...was he just "Following the script" as he said?

Why exactly did Rorschach kill the dogs instead of just killing the guy?

And lastly, Why did Dan and Laurie have to go into hiding? Well, I could understand why Laurie had to, but no one knew Dan was Nite Owl...Or did I miss something?

Otherwise, I am surprised at just how much I loved it and cannot wait to read through it again. And I'm hoping beyond hope what I'll see on screen in March moves me as much as what I just read.

 

[AlteredEgo]

dude, i think you and i bought and finished the GN on the exact same days. eerie.
umm, as for the answers to your questions:
1) Following the script thing. also, some forms of radiation blur his ability to see the future i think
2) Because he figured out that the man had already killed the girl and fed the girl to his dogs. He sees the dogs chewing on her bones, snaps, kills the dogs, kills the guy.
3) The cop who gave him a "warning" knew, and got suspended because he didnt act on it.

 

[[A]]

Of course loved it.

Always good to read something like that t:

 

[The Guard]

Veidt uses tachyon bombardment to muddle Jon's ability to see the future.

 

[ManofmyWord]

2) Because he figured out that the man had already killed the girl and fed the girl to his dogs. He sees the dogs chewing on her bones, snaps, kills the dogs, kills the guy.

Wow....I totally missed that. Just like I missed that Walter is the first person you see(Carrying the sign).

 

[CoffyMaker]

How exatcly does the creation of the "squid" come about?

I know that the artists were unknowingly helping Veidt in his plan, but did Veidt trasnport the creature from another dimension, or was it engineered completely by Veidt? That's the only thing I'm confused about.

 

[StillTheKing]

Wow....I totally missed that. Just like I missed that Walter is the first person you see(Carrying the sign).

That is one of those small things I love about the book. The first time you read it you never know who it is. It adds a little something to the story (well to me does).

 

[Luchastyle]

How exatcly does the creation of the "squid" come about?

I know that the artists were unknowingly helping Veidt in his plan, but did Veidt trasnport the creature from another dimension, or was it engineered completely by Veidt? That's the only thing I'm confused about.

they built the alien creature on the island. and they used a genetically engineered brain cloned from all the psychics and put it inside the squid.

this way, the thought of the squid would haunt everyone's dreams and thoughts for weeks to come from all the psychic energy.

thanks to the help of dr. manhattan, teleportation became possible. however...it wasn't exactly flawless. quite often, things would teleport to a space already occupied by other matter, and as a result, it would explode on arrival. which is what happens with the squid. so the squid shows up and explodes, destroying half of new york city. and the entire area has nightmares about it.

basically.

 

[[A]]

they built the alien creature on the island. and they used a genetically engineered brain cloned from all the psychics and put it inside the squid(...)

I hope they use the SQUID

 

[Luchastyle]

as do i, my friend. as do i.

although the entertainment weekly article said, and i'm paraphrasing, "the catastrophic ending has changed."

so that made me sad =(

 

[[A]]

as do i, my friend. as do i.

although the entertainment weekly article said, and i'm paraphrasing, "the catastrophic ending has changed."

so that made me sad =(

Oh well.. at least they're making a Watchmen movie so we.. hell, it still bothers me

the article should say catastrophic: ending has changed, heh

 

[chosen1]

All I can say is read the book again. The black freighter is Icing on the cake its makes watchmen that much better. You'll learn to love it.

 

[Commodore Schmidlapp]

All I can say is read the book again. The black freighter is Icing on the cake its makes watchmen that much better. You'll learn to love it.

True, I breezed over it the first time I read it, but when I went back and read it again, it pulls the whole story together as it parallels the actual story.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Just finished the book myself, couldt enjoy the ending as much due to some spoilers on this site but still have some questions.

Spoiler

Why did Manhatten kill Rorschach when he obviously knew about the existence of Rorschach's novel which would reveal the truth to the world anyway? His answer to Veidt pretty much told him his plan wouldnt eventually work.

Also, why did Dr. Manhatten leave Earth when he obviously cared for Laurie?

Overall, cant wait for the movie though, it looks very faithful.

 

[The Battousai]

Just finished the book myself, couldt enjoy the ending as much due to some spoilers on this site but still have some questions.

Spoiler

Why did Manhatten kill Rorschach when he obviously knew about the existence of Rorschach's novel which would reveal the truth to the world anyway? His answer to Veidt pretty much told him his plan wouldnt eventually work.

Also, why did Dr. Manhatten leave Earth when he obviously cared for Laurie?

Overall, cant wait for the movie though, it looks very faithful.

I'd read it again if I were you

...and a third time, and a fourth, etc...

 

[CaptainGenerica]

Just finished the book myself, couldt enjoy the ending as much due to some spoilers on this site but still have some questions.

Spoiler

Why did Manhatten kill Rorschach when he obviously knew about the existence of Rorschach's novel which would reveal the truth to the world anyway? His answer to Veidt pretty much told him his plan wouldnt eventually work.

Also, why did Dr. Manhatten leave Earth when he obviously cared for Laurie?

Overall, cant wait for the movie though, it looks very faithful.

Spoiler

I actually don't think Manhattan knew about Rorschach's journal. I don't have the book on hand to go check, but I don't think Rorschach really told anybody about his plan to send it to the magazine editors (oh dammit what was their name... The New Frontiersman? gah)

 

[Katsuro]

Spoiler

I actually don't think Manhattan knew about Rorschach's journal. I don't have the book on hand to go check, but I don't think Rorschach really told anybody about his plan to send it to the magazine editors (oh dammit what was their name... The New Frontiersman? gah)

He didn't. Rorschach never told anyone, and Manhattan's mind was clouded by the tachyons.

 

[Spade]

Dr. Manhattan does not have true clairvoyancy. He can see time simultaneously, but only within his own experiences. He can't see into the history of every single individual. That's why he remained ignorant of the journal; since Rorschach dropped it off without Jon knowing, all Manhattan knows is that Kovacs intends to go to the public with what he knows and he must prevent this to keep the peace.

(I'm keeping that vague, so I don't think spoiler tags are necessary).

By the way, io9 (I think that's the name of the site) reported a few days ago that only small details about the ending are being altered. For the most part, everything will be as it was in the original tale.

 

[Katsuro]

By the way, io9 (I think that's the name of the site) reported a few days ago that only small details about the ending are being altered. For the most part, everything will be as it was in the original tale.

Link?

 

[Spade]

http://io9.com/391488/learn-how-watchmen-changes-the-graphic-novels-ending

 

[.Rorschach.]

Glad to hear you liked it man!

Sweet avatar Chibi,and Kiriyama is my favourite character in BR

 

[Spade]

I love that quote. Funny enough, I got bored today and read Battle Royale again after a long break. It still ties with Watchmen as my favorite piece of literature.

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

im in the middle of the book right now...and it is so interesting...cant really say what i think until im finished but this is a really great read so far

 

[Nepenthes]

Wow....I totally missed that. Just like I missed that Walter is the first person you see(Carrying the sign).

man you'll be noticing new things every time you pick it up

 

[Nivek]

as do i, my friend. as do i.

although the entertainment weekly article said, and i'm paraphrasing, "the catastrophic ending has changed."

so that made me sad =(

okay, I highlighted the one thing that should raise suspicion about any "facts" about the movie from this article.

Grain of salt, people.