I want to move to the U.S. , need help

I don't know where in Canada you live but L.A. is the s**thole capital of the US. Everyone thinks LA is some bustling metropolis but I've never seen a more rundown and depleted city. For god's sake there are shanty towns there. Do you have any of those in Toronto or Vancouver?
 
If LA is that bad, why's no one put the money in to fix the place up?

Belfast went through over 30 years of war. But to look around, you'd never even know.
 
Those arguments are all very well and good. The NHS does have waiting lists. It does have problems.

But the video doesn't go into the fact that America has the exact same problems but for different reasons.


That doctor in that video talked about someone waiting for a knee replacement. But what about the working class guy in the US that has bills to pay and kids to feed? He might not even be able to afford the replacement!!


At least with free health care you're guaranteed to get seen to. I didn't have to wait when it came to my broken bone in my hand, actually, so things aren't as bad as can be made out by the media.

At least with free health care you're guaranteed to be treated equally. With free health care, NO ONE is going to get preferential treatment just because they have more money. Everyone is truely equal.

Does it look like to you that Britain is on the verge of a healthcare crisis? No.

And you're telling me the richest nation in the world, the country that spends so much money on war, can't afford a good free healthcare system?

Bull****. As always, it's about how much money you can get in the US.


Wrong, he can sell his house and all his possessions to pay for treatment. That is the american way.
 
Wrong, he can sell his house and all his possessions to pay for treatment. That is the american way.

Cool, then he's a bum with a ruined life but at least he's a bum with a hip and brand new kneecap. :woot:
 
Wrong, he can sell his house and all his possessions to pay for treatment. That is the american way.

or tell his wife to get a job:dry:

and i don't know about other places but im pretty sure kaindamo knows nothing of the US. All patients in the US are guaranteed to be treated even if you're poor and have no money you'll still get treated.
 
or tell his wife to get a job:dry:

and i don't know about other places but im pretty sure kaindamo knows nothing of the US. All patients in the US are guaranteed to be treated even if you're poor and have no money you'll still get treated.
And we all know what kinda job that would be, right! :oldrazz:
 
thats why technical school exists... hell the guy can be a cop,fireman or anything.all those jobs don't require you toget a 4 year degree, they train you.
 
I want to move to the U.S too. Cali. If not Canada Tornto.
Ireland is a **** hole. **** HOLE.

I think you need a degree(which betters your chance to get in)

Tell ya what...I'll move to Ireland and you can move to where I live. :heart:

50 miles north of the Mexican border. Yep everything is *so* much better here!:heart: :ninja:
 
Here, I'll actually answer your question instead of telling you why the US sucks/rules.
Legally moving to the states (aquiring a green card etc..) isn't the easiest thing in the world. It's pretty expensive and can take alot of time. Google it for a good place to start. I'm assuming you'll need to fill out some kind of petition (not the kind you get signed) and pay a fee to get the ball rolling. I got mine (about 10 years ago) by marrying a US citizen. In my case I had to fill out a fiance visa petition (proving to them I'm in good financial standing, have someone in the country that will provide for me if I become not in good financial standing, am able to work etc...). Then it was a long wait for that to be looked at (about 8 or 9 months with a rush put on it). Then had to drive to Montreal (from Windsor) for an interview. Got my fiance visa, got married, got my greencard. It cost me quite a bit of money all the way through. This, from what I hear, is the easiest way to go, besides having a company from the US hire you ahead of time and them paying for it all and taking care of all the paper work for you. Though, unless you are looking for a highly technical job, that not just anyone can do, that doesn't really happen.
 
Yeah I have been googling the hell out of this but thanks for sharing your expierence cuz it will help out with my situation..
 
Ironically, I want out of the US as quickly as possible. The people here are nice, until you get to know them. Then you meet some of the most conniving, shallow people on the planet. And I would avoid "small towns" like the plague. I've grown up in one, they're not what people say they are. I.E. there is no such thing as "small town morals". Other than that, have fun.

I'd rather live in London than really anywhere here. The direction this country is moving in unsettles me, personally.
 
Tell ya what...I'll move to Ireland and you can move to where I live. :heart:

50 miles north of the Mexican border. Yep everything is *so* much better here!:heart: :ninja:

Did your Avvy always blink? Because that is too damn cute.
 
Nationalized Health Care is Broken

By John Stossel

Last week I pointed out that Michael Moore, maker of the documentary "Sicko," portrayed the Cuban health-care system as though it were utopia -- until I hit him with some inconvenient facts. So he backed off and said, "Let's stick to Canada and Britain because I think these are legitimate arguments that are made against the film and against the so-called idea of socialized medicine. And I think you should challenge me on these things."
OK, here we go.
One basic problem with nationalized health care is that it makes medical services seem free. That pushes demand beyond supply. Governments deal with that by limiting what's available.

That's why the British National Health Service recently made the pathetic promise to reduce wait times for hospital care to four months.
The wait to see dentists is so long that some Brits pull their own teeth. Dental tools: pliers and vodka.
One hospital tried to save money by not changing bed sheets every day. British papers report that instead of washing them, nurses were encouraged to just turn them over.
Government rationing of health care in Canada is why when Karen Jepp was about to give birth to quadruplets last month, she was told that all the neonatal units she could go to in Canada were too crowded. She flew to Montana to have the babies.
"People line up for care; some of them die. That's what happens," Canadian doctor David Gratzer, author of The Cure, told "20/20". Gratzer thought the Canadian system was great until he started treating patients. "The more time I spent in the Canadian system, the more I came across people waiting. ... You want to see your neurologist because of your stress headache? No problem! You just have to wait six months. You want an MRI? No problem! Free as the air! You just gotta wait six months."
Michael Moore retorts that Canadians live longer than Americans.
But Canadians' longer lives are unrelated to heath care. Canadians are less likely to get into accidents or be murdered. Take those factors into account, not to mention obesity, and Americans live longer.
Most Canadians like their free health care, but Canadian doctors tell us the system is cracking. More than a million Canadians cannot find a regular family doctor. One town holds a lottery. Once a week the town clerk gets a box out of the closet. Everyone who wants to have a family doctor puts his or her name in it. The clerk pulls out one slip to determine the winner. Others in town have to wait.
It's driven some Canadians to private for-profit clinics. A new one opens somewhere in Canada almost every week. Although it's not clear that such private clinics are legal, one is run by the president of the Canadian Medical Association, Dr. Brian Day, because under government care, he says, "We found ourselves in a situation where we were seeing sick patients and weren't being allowed to treat them. That was something that we couldn't tolerate."
Canadians stuck on waiting lists often pay "medical travel agents" to get to America for treatment. Shirley Healey had a blocked artery that kept her from digesting food. So she hired a middleman to help her get to a hospital in Washington state.
"The doctor said that I would have only had a very few weeks to live," Healey said.
Yet the Canadian government calls her surgery "elective."
"The only thing elective about this surgery was I elected to live," she said.
Not all Canadian health care is long lines and lack of innovation. We found one place where providers offer easy access to cutting-edge life-saving technology, such as CT scans. And patients rarely wait.
But they have to bark or meow to get access to this technology. Vet clinics say they can get a dog or a cat in the next day. People have to wait a month.

You know what the problem with that article is? The UN ranks all of those countries as having better health care systems than the United States.
The United Nation's > Your neo-con sites
 
You know what the problem with that article is? The UN ranks all of those countries as having better health care systems than the United States.
The United Nation's > Your neo-con sites

I think everyone is forgetting all the countries the United States are currently ahead of ahead of in terms of healthcare. Here's the 20 following us. There's alot more where this came from. Read'em and weap Slovenia, Cuba and Qatar! That's why we're the United States of America!

37 United States
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
40 Brunei
41 New Zealand
42 Bahrain
43 Croatia
44 Qatar
45 Kuwait
46 Barbados
47 Thailand
48 Czech Republic
49 Malaysia
50 Poland
51 Dominican Republic
52 Tunisia
53 Jamaica
54 Venezuela
55 Albania
56 Seychelles
57 Paraguay
 
I think everyone is forgetting all the countries the United States are currently ahead of ahead of in terms of healthcare. Here's the 20 following us. There's alot more where this came from. Read'em and weap Slovenia, Cuba and Qatar! That's why we're the United States of America!

37 United States
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
40 Brunei
41 New Zealand
42 Bahrain
43 Croatia
44 Qatar
45 Kuwait
46 Barbados
47 Thailand
48 Czech Republic
49 Malaysia
50 Poland
51 Dominican Republic
52 Tunisia
53 Jamaica
54 Venezuela
55 Albania
56 Seychelles
57 Paraguay

Suck it Paraguay! :cmad:
 
Well, actually, it's sort of true. My father happens to be a well-known surgeon in Iowa.. and having spent plenty of time in Canada and having plenty of friends from various countries (Scotland, New Zealand, Canada..) he could tell you that the US's healthcare tends to be better and faster than all of those countries. But as a downside, you have to pay mucho dinero to get the best we have to offer.

It's a trade-off, but privatization of clinics tends to end up with them performing much better. As well as having much more competent physicians. I can already tell you that the public clinics we do have in the U.S. (like token city-owned clinics in L.A.) tend to be a mess. You have people dying in the lobbies because of uncaring staff members who have little motivation, partially because of their government paycheck.
 
Ok so I'm looking at moving to the good ol' U.S.of A (my heart and eyes are set on the demon c**k known as L.A.) and would like some help...

What do I need to do?
How do I become a u.s. citizen?
etc etc...

Any help would be welcome (especially from those who live in L.A.)

I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure that the test you have to take in order to be granted citizen ship is so difficult that something like 70% of Americans can't even pass the test.
 

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