The Dark Knight Rises IESB Exclusive: Third BATMAN Film in Script Stage

[Dark Knight]

Excellent news!


To Chris, Jonah, and David,

Make the Academy members pay for their ignorance and short sighted attitudes with the snub of TDK being a Best Picture nominee and Christopher Nolan being snubbed out of a Best Director nomination. Make another truly great and epic 3rd Bat film which will force them to take notice!

Make those ignorant fools in the Academy pay for their stupidity.

Above all....have fun making the next film!

 

[Watson]

*starts hyperventilating* wooohooo!!! I can't wait for the real fun to begin back here on the bat boards . I've been worried they may not want to finsh out the trilogy, but I trust IESB and this news seems very promising.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Not really, I think Warner is fairly confidant they have moved away from Schumacher, now they are suffering a disorder many movie studios suffer from... Milking the cash cow. And whenever they do that, fans are useually treated to mediocre cash-ins.

We must remember that it is not useually the Director who causes movies to fail, it is the studio that starts pushing all the wrong buttons. It was Warner who put Schumacher in charged last time and Sam Rami probably would'nt have messed up Venom if he wasnt forced to include him by Marvel.

And lets not forget, it was also the rampant fan demand to include things the director did not want to include in the first place that led to Topher Grace's Venom. As fans I suggest we be as respectful of Nolan as Warner claims to be right now.

Dude... Get a grip on life.

You could not be more wrong... The studios don't step into 9/10 of the movies that fail and "push them" to do what they want. They fail because of bad acting, bad writing, and/or bad directing. You seriously shock me as to how little of a clue you really have about anything

 

[MasterOgami]

Dude... Get a grip on life.

You could not be more wrong... The studios don't step into 9/10 of the movies that fail and "push them" to do what they want. They fail because of bad acting, bad writing, and/or bad directing. You seriously shock me as to how little of a clue you really have about anything

Maybe the lateness of the hour has dulled my ability to detect such things, but...this is sarcasm, right?

I'm not saying Rolf's completely right, but he makes a decent point; studios often step in and enforce their will onto the creative process, Warners giving the franchise to Schumacher in hopes of making it lighter/widening the appeal being a good example. Fox giving Daredevil an extra 25 million -in the middle of the shoot, as I recall- in order to "make it more like Spider-Man" being another.

However, in the current case, WB actually seems to be giving Nolan a fair deal and aren't stepping on his toes with demands to cast big names as the villains and other wacky requests. Its a case of a studio actually recognizing what's made something successful and not messing with the mix.

 

[Steyin]

I'm going to keep saying it until we hear news on characters:

Nolan can't direct women, and Batman doesn't need another love interest to drain away from the story. I want a Batman centralized film for once with no hinderances and just plain badass Batman. I'd tip my hat to Nolan for going in a such a direction, as it seems everyone is expecting a new lady to fill in, but I say **** it.

Plus I'd love it if Bale was barely out of the suit in the next one, showcasing just how much he is Batman now, and not Bruce.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Maybe the lateness of the hour has dulled my ability to detect such things, but...this is sarcasm, right?

I'm not saying Rolf's completely right, but he makes a decent point; studios often step in and enforce their will onto the creative process, Warners giving the franchise to Schumacher in hopes of making it lighter/widening the appeal being a good example. Fox giving Daredevil an extra 25 million -in the middle of the shoot, as I recall- in order to "make it more like Spider-Man" being another.

However, in the current case, WB actually seems to be giving Nolan a fair deal and aren't stepping on his toes with demands to cast big names as the villains and other wacky requests. Its a case of a studio actually recognizing what's made something successful and not messing with the mix.

I don't doubt for a second that it happens, I just don't believe that's the primary cause of the critical failure of "most" movies.

 

[Darknightnomis]

This is great news.

However, I personally hope Nolan and company scale the next one down a bit and take it back to being a more character driven movie like 'Batman Begins' instead of an action moive that 'Dark Knight' was in respect to Bruce Wayne/Batman.

I would love to see how all of this have affect Bruce personally being Batman and losing Rachael, Harvey and not really inspiring hope but having to take on the role of a "Villian" in the people's eye ala the Dark Knight ending.

And I would love to see Leslie Thomkins portrayed in a Batman movie.

 

[Changeling]

Yeah. We need Leslie. I still cant believe we havent seen her or Bullock

 

[rory_bat]

I'm going to keep saying it until we hear news on characters:

Nolan can't direct women, and Batman doesn't need another love interest to drain away from the story. I want a Batman centralized film for once with no hinderances and just plain badass Batman. I'd tip my hat to Nolan for going in a such a direction, as it seems everyone is expecting a new lady to fill in, but I say **** it.

Plus I'd love it if Bale was barely out of the suit in the next one, showcasing just how much he is Batman now, and not Bruce.

I disagree there. I don't think that is the case, I just think that the female roles that he writes are not as meaty as the male roles in his films. His films are very much male oriented and driven. Very interesting indeed, especially since his wife produces them ...

 

[Anita18]

I disagree there. I don't think that is the case, I just think that the female roles that he writes are not as meaty as the male roles in his films. His films are very much male oriented and driven. Very interesting indeed, especially since his wife produces them ...

Insomnia had a female lead. Probably the meatiest female role in a Nolan film. Although all of the attention was on Al Pacino and Robin Williams.

I actually don't like Insomnia all that much, but it has nothing to do with Hilary Swank and more to do with the story itself. The movie itself was a remake and Nolan didn't do the script so...yeah.

 

[The Chris]

I disagree there. I don't think that is the case, I just think that the female roles that he writes are not as meaty as the male roles in his films. His films are very much male oriented and driven. Very interesting indeed, especially since his wife produces them ...

Pretty much. You can say he hasn't written them as well as the male characters, but when it comes to directing them, Carrie-Anne Moss, Rebecca Hall, Hilary Swank, and think Maggie as well were all directed to good performances by him. Scarlett was okay, and Katie was well, meh, but not end of the world meh.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I don't think the poor female characters are necessarily to do with Nolan. I just don't think Katie or Maggie had good chemistry with Bale. Thats the stumbling block if they want to use Catwoman for the next one, they need a strong enough actress to hold her own against Bale and be able to have an electric chemistry with him.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

This has probably already been said, but...Batman will be chased by the cops, he has to rebuild the Batmobile p), he lost the woman he loved and he still has to fight ****ing crime every day. He has no time for love.

 

[Crook]

No time for love, yet the character has had the most love interests out of any other superhero. Haha.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

Yeah, but it's pretty much impossible in this continuity. I'm guessing the third movie will take place not to long after TDK, not to long after he lost Rachel. He's not gonna move on.

 

[Dark Knight]

This is great news.

However, I personally hope Nolan and company scale the next one down a bit and take it back to being a more character driven movie like 'Batman Begins' instead of an action moive that 'Dark Knight' was in respect to Bruce Wayne/Batman.

I would love to see how all of this have affect Bruce personally being Batman and losing Rachael, Harvey and not really inspiring hope but having to take on the role of a "Villian" in the people's eye ala the Dark Knight ending.

And I would love to see Leslie Thomkins portrayed in a Batman movie.

Leslie Thompkins would be a great addition to the story and it could be a dramatic and fun addition at the same time.

Nolan may be able to show us some flashback scenes of both Dr Thompkins and Alfred helping raise the young Master Bruce. Very emotional and touching scenes can be produced from Caine and a solid older actress playing Thompkins (hoping for Helen Mirren) along with having some fun and flirtatious scenes between the two that would be fun to see.

We would also be able to see Thompkins showing her motherly criticism and at at times support for what Bruces crusade...just like she has done in the books.

 

[TheBatman072]

Yeah, but it's pretty much impossible in this continuity. I'm guessing the third movie will take place not to long after TDK, not to long after he lost Rachel. He's not gonna move on.

If you look at it from a dramatic standpoint, having Selina Kyle/Catwoman in the film as criminal/love interest, it would cause great conflict in Bruce on two different levels.

1. She's a cat burglar. A criminal. And yet...something about her makes Bruce feel happy.

2. It's not that long after Rachel, and he's already starting to feel something for someone else? A criminal? It must be pretty damn powerful.

 

[Cunning Stunts]

Yeah, but it's pretty much impossible in this continuity. I'm guessing the third movie will take place not to long after TDK, not to long after he lost Rachel. He's not gonna move on.

I don't believe that for a second. It's not uncommon at all for people who lose loved ones jump straight into someone's else's arms for comfort, almost like a morbid version of rebound.

Also, if he finds out about Rachel's plan to marry Harvey, he could be doing it in his own way of "getting back at her" (so to speak, despite the fact that she's dead), as those who lose things often times get angry at what or who they lose, regardless of the situation. It's one of our most basic human ways of coping with things... Pushing what we lost even further away. It sounds psychotic, I know, but it's true.

 

[Crook]

Not to mention that Selina provides a love interest that totally goes against Bruce's moral values. The fact that he falls for a girl that Rachel would probably admonish, that's interesting in it's own right.

Going from the good-girl assistant DA to sultry cat burglar is a pretty big jump. Exploring Bruce's emotional attraction to what logically shouldn't be, provides good conflict.

Oh, and let's not forget a movie studio would never allow a sausage-fest. There's the short answer.

 

[TheBatman072]

Not to mention that Selina provides a love interest that totally goes against Bruce's moral values. The fact that he falls for a girl that Rachel would probably admonish, that's interesting in it's own right.

Going from the good-girl assistant DA to sultry cat burglar is a pretty big jump. Exploring Bruce's emotional attraction to what logically shouldn't be, provides good conflict.

Oh, and let's not forget a movie studio would never allow a sausage-fest. There's the short answer.

This is the correct answer.

 

[Steelsheen]

I don't think the poor female characters are necessarily to do with Nolan. I just don't think Katie or Maggie had good chemistry with Bale. Thats the stumbling block if they want to use Catwoman for the next one, they need a strong enough actress to hold her own against Bale and be able to have an electric chemistry with him.

they can take a clue by observing his wife. when they're together, they're smokin!

 

[Rolf]

I don't doubt for a second that it happens, I just don't believe that's the primary cause of the critical failure of "most" movies.

It is really, the only time a director of a good franchise has screwed up the third movie because HE actually made mistakes on his own was when George Lucas did "Return of the Jedi".

Franchises which fail due to a directors inablility useually fail on the first movie. Since Nolan has done a wonderful job with BB and TDK I see no reason to believe he would fail on the third if he had his way with it.

However the third film is useually the one where studios seem to get the idea that they know better than the director unfortunately. And while there is currantly no reason to think that Nolan and Warner Bros dissagree on anything regarding the creative process you can just never be to sure, they seem to think of third movies as "please everybody" projects.

Guys from Warner Bros are probably searching the internet to find out what people want right now.

As fans we can all do our part in making sure this movie does allright... by NOT screaming for X and Y to appear in the film, the last time a villain was included purely bassed on fan-demand we got the Topher Grace Venom. A director like Nolan could provide us with many a wonderous charecter as long as he includes them of his own free will.

Fortunately it seems that fan demand on charecters which don't fit into Nolan's world is relatively low right now, in fact there is not much fan demand for any particular charecter now that the Joker has been used, however I have noticed an inexplicably high demand for Harley Quinn, one charecter I feel does not fit into Nolan's universe at all, I think it is best that the demand for her dies down before Warner forces Nolan to cast her and <insert actress name here>'s Harley Quinn becomes the Batman equivilant Topher Grace's Venom.

That's all.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Sure he did. See Rachel Dawes, PG-13 rating and the "action packed" BB ending. He even acknowledged as such. Good artists can work and improvise around constraints.

Well obviously there is always going to be some influence from execs. A movie is an investment for them, they are always going to be checking up on their investment.

But if they categorically told Nolan what he had to do, completely undermined his vision I believe he would tell them to **** themselves.

 

[sabetoonth]

yes sir, then revive heath to repeat his performance to them, nolans that is

 

[Anita18]

Not to mention that Selina provides a love interest that totally goes against Bruce's moral values. The fact that he falls for a girl that Rachel would probably admonish, that's interesting in it's own right.

Going from the good-girl assistant DA to sultry cat burglar is a pretty big jump. Exploring Bruce's emotional attraction to what logically shouldn't be, provides good conflict.

Oh, and let's not forget a movie studio would never allow a sausage-fest. There's the short answer.

300 was more of a sausage-fest than BB/TDK, but...yeah.

That's the thing about Rachel in TDK. I think Bruce was in love with the Rachel he knew before he left, just as Rachel was in love with the Bruce she knew before he left. By the time TDK happens, Rachel was already pretty much off his bandwagon. The two just have completely different, irreconcilable ways of looking at the law.

You can see it in Alfred's face as he's trying to explain to her what Bruce and Harvey are doing. Rachel doesn't comprehend it at all, and Alfred knows that Bruce has already lost her.

Selina would definitely be a better foil for Bruce, because she breaks the law (albeit in a less righteous manner than Batman), but also possesses a moral code.