If Ratner had more time?

[The Ones]

If Brett had more time, could he have improved on the mistakes he made in X-3 and make it better. This film was rushed into production and the evidence is there but if fox allowed him till...say Early 2007. Would X-3 have been better?

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Kinberg and Penn ruined that movie long before Ratner took the helm.

 

[The Ones]

Yes, but if Ratner had more breathing space, could he have worked on the script a bit more?

 

[Aiden]

Yes, it would have. It was still good but it could have been even better if he had more than 6 weeks to prepare

 

[Mr. Socko]

If Ratner made another, it would be even better because he'll be in pre-production.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I don't think so, as I think the problems came from the editing and the quick pace, which would have come in post-production.

The plot was good.

Ratner just didn't let it play out the way it could have.

Although some blame does go to the writers, as well, for not really writing an emotionally powerful script.

 

[Darth Loco]

I don't see why everyone and their momma is bashing this film it was a decent movie,it does'nt deserve all the negative press it's getting....

 

[The Ones]

The one i saw on Sunday was amazing but judging from fans reactions, it seems too much was cut in the final print for "pacing". So if he had more time for editing or the overall shoot of the movie and working on script, it wouldve surpassed Singer

 

[Mr. Socko]

JESUS CHRIST! You people are still bashing and hating Ratner for no real reason. Whatever he makes, you'll say it sucks. You said it before you saw the movie and now after.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Yes, but if Ratner had more breathing space, could he have worked on the script a bit more?

So yeah, I was just making the point I don't blame Ratner for the movie. Although the direction was "off" he did not kill the movie at all. His angles on shots though were atrocious at times.

 

[Nathan]

JESUS CHRIST! You people are still bashing and hating Ratner for no real reason. Whatever he makes, you'll say it sucks. You said it before you saw the movie and now after.

Watched the movie with an open mind. Disliked it regardless. Then I came back to the hype and read 2 quotes from Ratner where he says...

1. He made the movie fast paced and jump from scene to scene because he gets bored easily

and

2. He picked random mutants like Psylocke because he wanted more different nationalities and thought they looked cool, and then he mixed their power sets because he thought it's better than to use additional 10 mutants.


Now I want him off the franchise. But he's actually the lesser evil. The once that definitely have to go are the writers, because the character development displayed in this movie was simply pathetic.

 

[KenK]

You have to take into account how much was already decided upon before Ratner even entered the equation. The pacing was quick, but how much did Penn and Kinberge really give him to work with, especially when Ratner had to start film as soon as he was picked to direct. A director needs to be involved with a film from pre-production, if not sooner. The studio was ready to shoot with Vaughn, meaning sets were already built, visualization of the effects was underway, etc. Ratner's not Spielberg, and that's not a knock at Ratner, few people are Spielberg, that's just a scientific fact. Granted, Spielberg would have made X3 great UNTIL the last five minutes, when his super mega-happy ending would have unraveled everything that preceeded it.

 

[Super Flight]

Kinberg and Penn ruined that movie long before Ratner took the helm.

and they should be killed for it

 

[POWdER-man]

Did anyone think it was almost an Ed Wood moment right after

Spoiler

Magneto sets the bridge down? The sun was setting when he picked it up, but as soon as he dropped it was "pitched black", not just blackening, but pitched black as can be

....that annoyed me

 

[Exile]

You have to take into account how much was already decided upon before Ratner even entered the equation. The pacing was quick, but how much did Penn and Kinberge really give him to work with, especially when Ratner had to start film as soon as he was picked to direct. A director needs to be involved with a film from pre-production, if not sooner. The studio was ready to shoot with Vaughn, meaning sets were already built, visualization of the effects was underway, etc. Ratner's not Spielberg, and that's not a knock at Ratner, few people are Spielberg, that's just a scientific fact. Granted, Spielberg would have made X3 great UNTIL the last five minutes, when his super mega-happy ending would have unraveled everything that preceeded it.

That statement made me laugh out loud. That is so true!

 

[CapBeerCino]

If Brett had more time

That wouldn't change a thing! If he had more vision, maybe.

 

[MoreCowbell]

No... Ratner is a journeyman director. What has he done worth watching? The guy is hack. What killed this film is pacing. Just as Ratner said, he makes movies with ADD in mind. Next scene, next scene, next scene.

Bring back Byran and have X3 be a dream, like in that show Dallas.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

Yes, and trust me about this. Yet it's too late to go back... Let it go...

 

[ntcrawler]

It's more than production time. Part of the problem besides Ratner's directing style was that he didn't have control over the script. FOX's management had the proverbial gun pointed at the heads of the writers. We could have gotten more scenes, maybe made the scenes a bit longer, but unless you have control over your own creative process, don't expect a radically different plot or outcome.

 

[ntcrawler]

Did anyone think it was almost an Ed Wood moment right after

Spoiler

Magneto sets the bridge down? The sun was setting when he picked it up, but as soon as he dropped it was "pitched black", not just blackening, but pitched black as can be

....that annoyed me

Ah, so that was Ratner's way of paying homage to Plan 9?

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

guess so

 

[ntcrawler]

No... Ratner is a journeyman director. What has he done worth watching? The guy is hack. What killed this film is pacing. Just as Ratner said, he makes movies with ADD in mind. Next scene, next scene, next scene.

Agreed. The whole film was a checklist of scenes to complete, spliced together to make a movie. Whether a romantic scene, an action scene, ar a quiet scene, it was all the same. Get it over with, next scene.

Bring back Byran and have X3 be a dream, like in that show Dallas.

That would be the simplest solution. Or just treat X3 like one of those alternate "what-if" spinoffs like the X-Men The End stories.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

Make House of M... easiest end to X-men. Then WB takes it! Better movie n all