The Dark Knight Rises If the Riddler was in a Begins sequel, what would you want him to be like?

[Malone]

If the Riddler was in a Batman Begins sequel this is how I would want him to be:

Some people mentioned that they liked the idea of the Riddler being like the villains from "Saw" and "Se7en". I really like those ideas. I think that having the Riddler would be a good chance to do a mystery/who done it, story. Everybody knows that the Riddler is Edward Nigma, so they should never actually show you who Edward Nigma is. Instead, they should show you Edward Nigma sometime in the movie (maybe, meeting Bruce Wayne), but not let you know that it's him. They should unravel the mystery at the end of the movie, finally revealing who the Riddler is.

I also think that the Riddler should be lethal, like the villains in "Saw" and "Se7en", and that there should be a Riddle next to all of his victims. Unlike the Joker, though, his murders should have meaning and purpose behind them (revenge?). He shouldn't kill people at random, or just for the fun of it.

So what do you think?

 

[XCharlieX]

Thats interesting... i think if they introduced the detective aspect of batman they could do the surprise ending like that.

One picture in my head is Robin williams playing a disturbed genius type, like 1 hr photo -esque.. quiet and such. He goes to work everyday, has grudges that nobody knows about, one day leaves a wordplay riddle on the bosses desk and then walks out of the building all dorky and all as it explodes heh. Something like that I could definitely see, but no over the top silliness like Carrey.

 

[Two-Face]

I agree that he should have a motive for the people he kills and I like the 'Saw' idea but I don't wan't it exactly the same. Instead of solving a mechanism, they should have to solve riddles or the Riddler will kill them.

I also think he should be around the same age if not a little younger than Batman. I don't like the idea of him being old.

Malone: I like the mix of saw and Seven on The Riddler.

Majik1387: I like idea as well and I also think The Riddler should be same age or few years older nothing like The Long Halloween and Edward Norton would be great.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

I want him to be devious, shrewd, always one step ahead of the cops, but not one step ahead of Batman.

There's two routes I could see his character being introduced as:

1. "Seven" route- The Riddler is serial killer who leaves riddles on whom he might kill next. Throughout the whole film he leads the Gotham Police Department and Batman on a wild goose-chase all over Gotham. Riddler is made out to be an anarchist/vigilante who is killing corrupt politicians and authority leaders.

2. "Die Hard With A Vengeance" route- Riddler is introduced as a mad bomber who leaves bombs that are designed as puzzleboxes, rubix cubes, and children's toys. Anyone who cannot crack the code in a certain amount of time will explode. Riddler starts targeting major Wayne Enterprises buildings after being fired by Bruce Wayne (yes it's like Schumacher's "Batman Forever" only not really) or he goes after the mayor. Either or he goes after would be interesting.

 

[Malone]

I agree that he should have a motive for the people he kills and I like the 'Saw' idea but I don't wan't it exactly the same. Instead of solving a mechanism, they should have to solve riddles or the Riddler will kill them.

I also think he should be around the same age if not a little younger than Batman. I don't like the idea of him being old.

I like those ideas.

XCharlieX- you're right. I don't think that Jim Carrey did a very good job, too silly.

Two Face- I think that Edward Norton would do a great job, have you seen "Primal Fear"?

NinjaTurtleFan- I like the bomb idea from "Die Hard with a Vengence". I also think that it would be cool to see the Riddler panic at some point ( Because Batman is hot on his trail), and kill somebody in a very sloppy way, like stabbing.

 

[Two-Face]

Two Face- I think that Edward Norton would do a great job, have you seen "Primal Fear"?

No I haven't is it good? I like Norton as an actor and I also think he great too.

 

[Bathead]

Riddler is not a killer, or at least he wasn't for the longest time, when I was reading the comics up until a few years ago. He is an intellectual snob, believing he is smarter that everybody else, and gets a thrill by challenging Batman and police with his Riddles and crimes. The only attempted killings should be his infamous death traps which are basically giant complex puzzles that Batman must solve or die.

 

[Dr.Dude]

The most important thing about this character is that he has to come off as smart... genius, even. The sort of guy who's brilliant, knows that he's brilliant, and would have no problem rubbing the fact that he's brilliant in your face.

So on the surface he should be a calm, collected type... slightly geeky, but still extremely menacing... you can tell from his eyes that he carefully has secret plans laid out everywhere within his mind.

But there's an important detail, which is that under the surface, he's still an absolute nutcase, and this part can't be left out. Picture it this way.... on the outside he's John Doe from Seven, but if you look through the cracks to deep on the inside, only bursting out accidently, there's a little bit of Frank Gorshin lurking there, and this is what really leads him into being the elaborate, egotistical freak that he is.

 

[nolan's roll'n]

Paul Bettany or Ed Norton for the Riddler.

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

Paul Bettany or Ed Norton for the Riddler.

Both are good candidates. Jude Law too or Sam Rockwell would fit too. I would also love to see David Hyde Pierce just because like I said numerous times on this board that he does resemble the "BTAS" Riddler.

 

[Malone]

No I haven't is it good? I like Norton as an actor and I also think he great too.

Primal Fear was a great movie. I don't want to tell you too much about it, but it's a sort of murder mystery. It's definately worth checking out, I think you'll enjoy it.

 

[whiteAngelus]

on one of the batman cartoons I saw a joker I loved, he was like both ideas that ninjaturtlefan mentioned he must be like this and be the genius someone else mentioned, he must have motives and reasons he isnt insane in the same way the joker is and must fight batman and not just get beaten like the scarecrow was he must uses trips that are clever like a simply electric shock device nothin flashy just practical, he should send Batman on a chase and be a 4D villian and I would really love him to be in the Franchise probably in the third one with Two face so we have had by the end of the 3rd film

Ra's al Ghul, scarecrow, carmine falconie, Joker, Pengiun, Two Face and Riddler with several reoccuring like scarecrow should be back for the second but with a sod off sythe or Joker in too and three but I cant wait for the Riddler who after that one version of him as become one of my favourite Batman villains- ps saw two violent for him in my opinion he should just be get the job done thats it like gas or quick death nothin like ya head in a vice thats about to take ya head off- bombs are good ideas cause more distruption than anythin else

 

[whiteAngelus]

on one of the batman cartoons I saw a joker I loved, he was like both ideas that ninjaturtlefan mentioned he must be like this and be the genius someone else mentioned, he must have motives and reasons he isnt insane in the same way the joker is and must fight batman and not just get beaten like the scarecrow was he must uses trips that are clever like a simply electric shock device nothin flashy just practical, he should send Batman on a chase and be a 4D villian and I would really love him to be in the Franchise probably in the third one with Two face so we have had by the end of the 3rd film

Ra's al Ghul, scarecrow, carmine falconie, Joker, Pengiun, Two Face and Riddler with several reoccuring like scarecrow should be back for the second but with a sod off sythe or Joker in too and three but I cant wait for the Riddler who after that one version of him as become one of my favourite Batman villains- ps saw two violent for him in my opinion he should just be get the job done thats it like gas or quick death nothin like ya head in a vice thats about to take ya head off- bombs are good ideas cause more distruption than anythin else

 

[Two-Face]

I like look of TAS Riddler:

It only has one question mark on his tie unlike Batman Forever....

 

[NinjaTurtleFan]

I like look of TAS Riddler:

It only has one question mark on his tie unlike Batman Forever....

The perfect Riddler and I'm still pushing for David Hyde Pierce to play him. He looks so much like him it's scary.

 

[thedarks0ldier]

If they were to make a fourth movie it should be like HUSH

 

[CConn]

I don't know if I'd want Hush itself to be adapted, but yeah, if Riddler's in a movie, he should play very much the same role he did in Hush; the cool, calculating manipulator behind the scenes.

 

[Spider-Kurt!]

David Hyde Pierce is perfect for my version of the Riddler. Jude Law and Ed Norton would work great as well.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I'd want him to be a thief at first. I'd want him along the lines of Simon in Die Hard 3. I would want him to see Batman as someone whose intellect is possibly on par w/his own & obsess about proving himself Batman's superior, thus playing sick games w/him like Keanu in The Watcher. i wouldn't mind seeing Quiz & Query.
And no freakin' jumpsuit!

 

[Chris Wallace]

The following are what I find to be acceptable locations for question marks:
Hat band
Tie
Cufflinks
Gloves (maybe)
That's about it.

 

[Iglius]

Suit getup, much like the (I believe) Lee illustratoin above.

Played by Paul Giamatti.

 

[Iglius]

Suit getup, much like the (I believe) Lee illustration above.

Played by Paul Giamatti.

 

[Iglius]

Suit getup, much like the (I believe) Lee illustration above.

Played by Paul Giamatti.

 

[Iglius]

Edit: Dear God, so sorry about that.

 

[Bathead]

I also like the green suit with purple trim. Derby, Question mark tie-pin and cane are a must.