If this guy can make a scientific breakthrough so can Peter Parker!!!

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Sam Raimi it's time to give back Spidey his trusty webshooters and webbing formula. A professor invented liquid kevlar in REAL LIFE! Surely scientific prodigy, Peter Parker, can invent synthetic webbing in a fictional movie with a guy that can turn into sand.

They said only major corporations can invent stuff like this. They are wrong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5mHnt3OlEA&search=liquid kevlar
 
Face it, Spider-man is half the genius, half the human, and half the man he used be without his trusty webshooters. With organics he's been turned into a man-spider freak who can't match wits with Dr.Ock. Truly a lazy and uninspired interpretation of Spider-man. Enough is enough. Stand and be counted true believers. Webshooters are a concept worth saving for future genrations. Stan Lee knew what he was doing. Webshooters rock and organics still suck!
 
I agree. Peter is way lamer in the movies than he is in the comics. :(
 
i agree that the web shooters added a more intellectual concept to parker, and his intellect has been dumbed alot in these films but, i understand where raimi was coming from when he made it all organic, its simpler for the storys progression. i think he was in talks about using web shooters for the second film when parker loses his organic webs, but this fell through becuause when he DID get his powers back it wouldnt be as effective.
web shooters are cool for the comics, and natural webs for the comics would suck, but in the movie...organics all the way.


P.S......i want some liquid armor...that would kick all kinds of ass
 
fury, it's clear that the characters in the films aren't the ones in the comics, there's no point trying to make the crossover this late in the day...

any insight into parker's intelligence in this film will just really be a mockery of the last two, i rather they left it out all together and have parker's whole motivation be loved based...

heck, i bet we never even see his webbing run out again :o

inspite of that, give up the ghost, it'll give you wrinkles...
 
cosbydaf said:
I agree. Peter is way lamer in the movies than he is in the comics. :(

You can say that again!

But that liquid armor is awesome!
 
November Rain said:
fury, it's clear that the characters in the films aren't the ones in the comics, there's no point trying to make the crossover this late in the day...

any insight into parker's intelligence in this film will just really be a mockery of the last two, i rather they left it out all together and have parker's whole motivation be loved based...

heck, i bet we never even see his webbing run out again :o

inspite of that, give up the ghost, it'll give you wrinkles...

It's never too late to bring back great ideas and characters. Sam Raimi finally woke up and realized ignoring Gwen Stacy was a huge mistake. Guess who's in Spider-man 3. The same could happen with webshooters.

And Spider-man running out of webbing is a great moment for suspense. It's like when the action hero has one clip left to fight countless bad guys. You wonder, "how is he going to get out of this one?". Again another opportunity missed. Not to mention the fact that web formula brings far more storytelling opportunities than organics which is a lazy story device that adds little to the character or Spider-man world.

And I'm a fanboy. Caring/worrying about fiction is what we do. ;)
 
he didn't ignore her, he's simply using her as a tool for a love triangle, it could have easily been felicia or maybe some random person invented, it's not going to be comic gwen.

spidey only ran out of webbing once in an important part of the film while fighting ock and it's bound to never get seen again on the big screen.

luckily enough can happen with spidey without the need to worry about worrying about his webbing running out. it would only really matter if he was a mouthy character but the movie spidey doesn't like to talk much so running out of webbing isn't really a problem.

it all comes back to having a different character....
 
I don't see the point of changing an established and already popular character. These changes are not only pointless and superficial they also take away from the story. Having Gwen Stacy die in the first movie would have given the sequels much more weight and complexity. Making Spider-man's webbing natural takes away storytelling opportunities, interesting metaphors, and character depth. Making Harry a non-Goblin character removes the iconic legacy of the Green Goblin. All short-sighted and pointless changes.
 
perhaps, but rectifying it now is a problem that the industry has always had with making changes.

the retcon which in most cases is used to cover ones back in the light of a 'mistake' instead of taking that mistake forward and making the most of it so to speak.


parker and a number of characters have already been established as being what they are and different from the comics, i'd rather let them grow as themselves rather than trying to completely emulate and capture an essence that is apparently lost to them.

different doesn't have to be bad, as long as it's a new difference that is a new take on things that people can accept.

look at animated 90s spidey, its take on the venom costume is probably the best to date and very different from the original, so it the ultimate take, again better than original (in theory).

perhaps an intelligent parker is not necessarily what is required to telll the spidey mythos anymore but rather just a kind hearted normal level geek.
 
It's been more than four years, you can't go bacK in time and change the decisison, GET THE HELL OVER IT.
 
November Rain said:
perhaps, but rectifying it now is a problem that the industry has always had with making changes.

the retcon which in most cases is used to cover ones back in the light of a 'mistake' instead of taking that mistake forward and making the most of it so to speak.


parker and a number of characters have already been established as being what they are and different from the comics, i'd rather let them grow as themselves rather than trying to completely emulate and capture an essence that is apparently lost to them.

different doesn't have to be bad, as long as it's a new difference that is a new take on things that people can accept.

look at animated 90s spidey, its take on the venom costume is probably the best to date and very different from the original, so it the ultimate take, again better than original (in theory).

perhaps an intelligent parker is not necessarily what is required to telll the spidey mythos anymore but rather just a kind hearted normal level geek.


Science is exytremely important in the Spider-man universe. Infact, Spider-man's greatest foes all have science related origins and powers. The fact that Parker was extremely good at science was no coincidence. If Flash Thompson was bit by that enhanced spider he could never take on the sinister six. Why? Because Spider-man is a thinker and inventer who uses brain over brawn 90 percent of the time.

Directors dumb down the source material for two reasons. One, they underestimate the audience. Two, it allows for lazy writing and storytelling. It's simply harder to write scenes for very smart, quick-witted characters like Spider-man. Some writer/directors love a challenge and embrace these opportunities, others sadly just want to make quick and easy money.
 
ScarletSpider said:
It's been more than four years, you can't go bacK in time and change the decisison, GET THE HELL OVER IT.
Gwen Stacy will never be in the Spider-man movies! Get the hell over it!

Oh, waitaminute. :spidey:
 
Why would Pete have webshooters covering his organic ones?!
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:o You Guys Need To Let It Go Its Not Gonna Happen. An The Organic Webs Arent The End Of The World. Jus Respect Sam's Choice An Watch The Movie...:)
 
How can you Compare Gwen to the organic Web shotting?

Besides your whole explanation for him running out when he needs it most..............................That is sooooo cliche :p :D
 
Cdawg751 said:
:o You Guys Need To Let It Go Its Not Gonna Happen. An The Organic Webs Arent The End Of The World. Jus Respect Sam's Choice An Watch The Movie...:)

You Guys Need To Let Go Its Not Going To Happen. An The Bat-nipples Aren't The End Of The World. Just Respect Joel Schumacher's Choice An Watch The Movie. :o
 
Secondly, the Army gets what like a billion dollars in funds for things like this. Pete can barely take MJ out on a date.
 
The army didn't do it a college professor did. BY HIMSELF I MIGHT ADD! :eek:
 
blind_fury said:
You Guys Need To Let Go Its Not Going To Happen. An The Bat-nipples Aren't The End Of The World. Just Respect Joel Schumacher's Choice An Watch The Movie. :o
Okay Mr.Fury Batman's F***in Nipples Arent As Bad As Spidey's Webbin...PLus u Cant Compare Spiderman With Batman And Robin And U Defiantly Cant Compare To Sam's Directin And Joel's When Comes TO Their Films...Also I Dont See Everyone Freaking Out As Much With The Organic Web As THey Did With Batman's Nipple....So I Still Fail To See Your Point :o
 
blind_fury said:
The army didn't do it a college professor did. BY HIMSELF I MIGHT ADD! :eek:

I doubt he did it all alone in his bedroom using just the materials on hand, though.
 
Maybe if he was a character in a sci-fi/fantasy movie he could have made liquid kevlar in his bedroom.

Hell, Doc Brown made a time machine car in his garage. :)
 
I didnt start reading the comics until i saw the first two films thus my entire experience of spidey was of the films, that he was bitten by a spider and could shoot webbing. I then went to read the comics and found the other way his webbing used to come out, and my serious first thought was...this is gay...super gay.

Spideys better having all the webbing he needs, id be annoyed if during a film he ran out in a fight and had to escape heroicly instead of keeping his webbing and fighting on.
 

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