if you cant beat them, copy them... 360 wiimote

[iambilly81]

http://kotaku.com/377798/more-info-on-xbox-360-wiimote

 

[Nightmare]

stupid.

 

[Soapy]

Ugh.

I wish this whole wii/motion sensor/casual gaming fad would just die the **** out.

 

[Kable24]

Actually one of the original designers of the 360 took the idea of the "wiimote" the Microsoft execs and they told him to scrap it, no one will use it.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I dont want the 360 to be anything like the Wii, a slightly upgraded Gamecube with a gimmicky control system.

 

[lollycop]

Meh I want the Wii to die like the Zune.

 

[Darthphere]

Ugh.

I wish this whole wii/motion sensor/casual gaming fad would just die the **** out.

It's not a fad, it's the future. Even the PS3 controller has elements of this.

 

[iambilly81]

It's not a fad, it's the future. Even the PS3 controller has elements of this.

i agree... nintendo took a big chance with the wii and its paying off... it might not have all the hard core gamers loving it, but... its bring alot of people that dont play video games... into playing video games. as far as nintendo goes... mission accomplished. everyone copies nintendo at some point.

 

[Soapy]

It's not a fad, it's the future. Even the PS3 controller has elements of this.

I don't see how it's the future. You're doing the same stuff you would do with a regular controller (usually less, actually), except you're doing it in a much more asinine way.

If the wii is the way of the future, than I, a gamer of nearly 20 years, am going to have to throw in the towel.

 

[Joker]

Meh I want the Wii to die like the Zune.

The Zune isnt dead, and if you dont like it, just dont use it, on both counts. I'm sure only certain casual games will use it, and I bet even they will give a choice of this or a standard controller. It's just MS trying to make a quick buck off of casual gamers...Nothing wrong with that.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

It's not a fad, it's the future. Even the PS3 controller has elements of this.

had

The PS3 is going to discontinue the Sixaxis.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

i agree... nintendo took a big chance with the wii and its paying off... it might not have all the hard core gamers loving it, but... its bring alot of people that dont play video games... into playing video games. as far as nintendo goes... mission accomplished. everyone copies nintendo at some point.

The Wii just needs to up its attachment rate. As it stands right now, everyone is buying a Wii, but aren't buying alot of games for it, thats not what Nintendo wants at the end of the day.

 

[iambilly81]

The Wii just needs to up its attachment rate. As it stands right now, everyone is buying a Wii, but aren't buying alot of games for it, thats not what Nintendo wants at the end of the day.

true, but givin its at the early years of its life cycle, there is tons of potential down the line, along with the other systems. but more gaming companies are trying new things theyve never done before with the wii, so in the long run your gonna see a bigger variety of games on the wii then on the ps3 or 360.

plus they also have there huge titles that are settin records, like zelda, mario galaxy and smash bros... and huge games on the way like mario kart, and wii fit.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

true, but givin its at the early years of its life cycle, there is tons of potential down the line, along with the other systems. but more gaming companies are trying new things theyve never done before with the wii, so in the long run your gonna see a bigger variety of games on the wii then on the ps3 or 360.

plus they also have there huge titles that are settin records, like zelda, mario galaxy and smash bros... and huge games on the way like mario kart, and wii fit.

Just what records are those game setting? Its not sales records, all of those games have approx 5-6 million units sold(which is really good, but not record setting). The Wii is closer to a board game than it is a video game console, which is shown by its poor attachment rate. Ill admit, the Wii set out to capture that casual audience and they have excelled, i just dont want to see that mindset got to Sony or Microsoft, but i understand why it could.

 

[iambilly81]

http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/AU8xLess7wISKbSMpYCj_HThii8UiBzG
http://www.wiiblog.net/super-smash-bros-brawl-smashes-sales-records-756/
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8374&Itemid=2
http://nexgenwars.com/

it may not be breaking all the records, but the numbers are huge. halo 3 has the record for fastest selling game.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Yea, SSBB breaking Nintendo records im not at all surprised by and im not arguing that its not a stellar selling game. Same for Twilight Princess and Galaxy.

 

[Drizzle]

The Wii just needs to up its attachment rate. As it stands right now, everyone is buying a Wii, but aren't buying alot of games for it, thats not what Nintendo wants at the end of the day.

Especially since the one game everyone wants for the Wii (Wii Sports) already comes with the system. A friend of mine has had a Wii for five months now and he hasn't bought one game for it, excluding Virtual Console games. All that's played on it is Wii sports and Ocarina of Time.

 

[Brainiac 8]

The Wii just needs to up its attachment rate. As it stands right now, everyone is buying a Wii, but aren't buying alot of games for it, thats not what Nintendo wants at the end of the day.

This was from a Gamestop report:

The current attach rate for the Wii has been put at 5-game-per-console according to GameStop which is the same as the PS3. This number lags behind the Xbox 360 which is said to have an attach rate of 8.8.

5 game attachment rate is not that bad, and equals the PS3. Of course it doesn't beat the 360, which has an awesome attachment rate, but it doesn't have to to be successfull.

I don't know why people are still under the impression that their attachment rate is bad.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

This was from a Gamestop report:



5 game attachment rate is not that bad, and equals the PS3. Of course it doesn't beat the 360, which has an awesome attachment rate, but it doesn't have to to be successfull.

I don't know why people are still under the impression that their attachment rate is bad.

Because its not 8 almost 9

And i saw that same article before you posted it, im actually impressed with the Wiis five game attachment rate, its climbed since the last time i checked.

 

[Brainiac 8]

Ok, cool. I don't think the other systems will touch the 360 attach rate for a while. That is ok though...the Wii is doing well for itself, and I personally love the system and own quite a few games for it.

I hope microsoft doesn't go along with the me-too attitude though and do a wii-mote knock off, since their strength lies elsewhere. I do think however that motion control will be something automatically added in come next generation. The other companies have seen that it does have a unique selling point, and it also has a consumer base that will eat it up...so I say prepare for the inevitable.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Ok, cool. I don't think the other systems will touch the 360 attach rate for a while. That is ok though...the Wii is doing well for itself, and I personally love the system and own quite a few games for it.

I hope microsoft doesn't go along with the me-too attitude though and do a wii-mote knock off, since their strength lies elsewhere. I do think however that motion control will be something automatically added in come next generation. The other companies have seen that it does have a unique selling point, and it also has a consumer base that will eat it up...so I say prepare for the inevitable.

I agree and i disagree at the same time. I dont see the next consoles going Wii and adopting motion control as their primary means of interaction, but i do see an added emphasis on it. I just dont see the hardcore Halo, GoW, CoD, MGS crowd clamoring for Wii like controls.

 

[Brainiac 8]

I agree and i disagree at the same time. I dont see the next consoles going Wii and adopting motion control as their primary means of interaction, but i do see an added emphasis on it. I just dont see the hardcore Halo, GoW, CoD, MGS crowd clamoring for Wii like controls.

Actually that is what I meant to say...it won't be the primary means like the Wii, but I think that motion control will be integrated as a selling point of the system, sort of a secondary function and not a seperate peripheral needed to be purchased.

Metroid Prime 3 proved how unique and accurate motion control could be and how much it can add to an experience, so I wouldn't be surprised to see FPS and similar genres giving you the option to play with motion.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Actually that is what I meant to say...it won't be the primary means like the Wii, but I think that motion control will be integrated as a selling point of the system, sort of a secondary function and not a seperate peripheral needed to be purchased.

Metroid Prime 3 proved how unique and accurate motion control could be and how much it can add to an experience, so I wouldn't be surprised to see FPS and similar genres giving you the option to play with motion.

Yea, i agree completely. Motion control is far easier to pick up than a game pad, thats just a given and to grab those "non-gamers", motion control is BY FAR the easiest way to go about it(case in point, the Wii).

As for this gen, i wouldn't at all be surprised to see MS or Sony adopt a motion like control system to try and capture a portion of that casual audience that the Wii has a death grip on. MS is already trying to break into that market with the Xbox Arcade SKU and advertised events like "Family Game Night".

 

[Brainiac 8]

Yea, i agree completely. Motion control is far easier to pick up than a game pad, thats just a given and to grab those "non-gamers", motion control is BY FAR the easiest way to go about it(case in point, the Wii).

As for this gen, i wouldn't at all be surprised to see MS or Sony adopt a motion like control system to try and capture a portion of that casual audience that the Wii has a death grip on. MS is already trying to break into that market with the Xbox Arcade SKU and advertised events like "Family Game Night".

There is money to be made there, so it would be silly for Sony or Microsoft to not try and lure some of that market over. A company that stagnates; dies.

Plus the casual audience is important to the industry, or at least I think so. Eventually many of those will cross that barrier to less casual games, and move to the deeper experiences. Overall it's more money for the industry, and that is good for us...because more money = more funds for games like Mass Effect, Uncharted, or Super Mario Galaxy.

 

[Soapy]

I really wouldn't be so opposed to the "casual gaming" trend if it just didn't get mixed up with the more "hardcore" games. I have seen many of my favorite game series dumbed down and have content stripped out just so they can appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Unfortunatey, developers are all but forced to follow this trend because that's where the money is going.