If you were in charge of DC OYL....

[The Batman]

How would you handle to respective universes?Which heroes would you kill? Which ones would you bring back? which retcons would you make? Discuss.

 

[XwolverineX]

Zatanna would die first, that biatch has got to go. The JLA would have the big 7, along side CM and the Atom. The Bat universe would stay the SAME, no switching identity crap. John Stewart should meet an unfortunate end.... Ted would come back . Arthur would stay as Aquaman, no lame replacement. CM3 would join the TT.

 

[Marvin]

i miss the morrision big seven days to tell you the truth

 

[XwolverineX]

i miss the morrision big seven days to tell you the truth

Me too

 

[Marvin]

amen brother...

 

[The Batman]

bump

 

[The Question]

Well, first off I'd reduce Batman's and Superman's books down to one each. As for the Justice League, I'd have Superman, Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan, The Flash, Aquaman, Zatanna, Hawkman, Captain Atom, Nightshade, and Martian Manhunter. I'd have Batman go off on his own and join the Outsiders, adding a few new members. The new team would consist of Batman, Nightwing, Arsenal, Jade, The Question, Vera Black, Jason Blood, Shift, Metamorpho (mostly to actually have he and Shift play off of each other and actually make Shift his own person), Major Disaster, and mabey a few others. Also, I'd have the new Blue Beetle be able to comunicate with the spirits of Ted Kord and Dan Garret, and eventually they'd be able to take turns as to being in control of the guy's body.

 

[Nightwing 52]

Ted Kord would be alive and well again.My Justice League would involve Batman,Superman,Wonder Woman,Green Arrow,The Flash,Green Lantern(Hal Jordan)Black Canary,Booster Gold,Hawkgirl and Hawkman,Zatanna,Martian Manhunter,Elongated Man,and The Atom.All of them would have their specific duties to add to the team.

Captain Marvel Jr.,Stargirl,and Jakeen Thunder,would join the people known as the Teen Titans and serve their purposes of being on a team which they can all relate too as in age and etc....Also have Beast Boy be moved to higher ranks,and have Robin be team leader.Donna Troy would aid as a mentor and watch over them with Beast Boy.

My Outsiders division would be Nightwing,Arsenal,Cyborg,Starfire,Jade,Metamorpho,Thunder,Grace,Huntress,The Question,Vixen,and many others.

The BOP(Birds of Prey) would set themselves up as to protect Bludhaven and members include,Oracle,Gypsy,Black Canary,Powergirl,Huntress,and Batgirl.Power Girl would be a reserve for daytime use only and let the masks of the group do there thing.

The Bat universe would remain the way it is now but with a few changes that have been said in OYL.For instance Bruce would be the father of Selina Kyles baby and she'd be Catwoman.No blonde woman crap who is believed to be Holly.Nightwing would operate with the Outsiders and their base would be in NYC along with him protecting that city on his own at times with also aiding Gotham,and inrease his feelings for Starfire.Robin will be a operating in Gotham and train himself to be an even better detective,also be a little darker but not to dark with all the recent events in his life.Batgirl would STILL be Cassandra Cain and be the protecter of Bludhaven.Basically the Bat family would stay the same with a few minor changes that will happen via OYL.BRUCE WOULD REMAIN BATMAN for a few more years,thats a very important one.I dont want anyone taking over the mantle for awhile.

Arthur Curry would still be Aquaman and serve in the JLA.


More to come.

 

[The Batman]

Well, first off I'd reduce Batman's and Superman's books down to one each. As for the Justice League, I'd have Superman, Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan, The Flash, Aquaman, Zatanna, Hawkman, Captain Atom, Nightshade, and Martian Manhunter. I'd have Batman go off on his own and join the Outsiders, adding a few new members. The new team would consist of Batman, Nightwing, Arsenal, Jade, The Question, Vera Black, Jason Blood, Shift, Metamorpho (mostly to actually have he and Shift play off of each other and actually make Shift his own person), Major Disaster, and mabey a few others. Also, I'd have the new Blue Beetle be able to comunicate with the spirits of Ted Kord and Dan Garret, and eventually they'd be able to take turns as to being in control of the guy's body.

No offense, but cancelling Detective and Action comics, two of the longest running comics in history, is a bad idea.

 

[The Question]

Why? I mean, I just really don't see a reason for more than one Batman book and more than one Superman book.

 

[The Batman]

Because Detective, Batman, Action, and Superman are titles that have all been mainstains throughout DC's history. And the thing about DC is, for the most part, they respect their history. Everyones expecting Action to be the first comic book to reach 1000. Cancelling Action and Detective would piss off the majority of DC fanboys. If you dont want more than 1 bats or supes book, turn them into anthology books focusing on DCU characters

 

[The Question]

Fine. All I want is one Batman and one Superman book. They could cancel Batman and Superman and just have Action and Detective, or turn Detective and Action into books about other characters like they were origionally. I really don't care either way, as long as there's just one Superman book and one Batman book on the shelves.

 

[The Batman]

Superman Universe

*Lex Luthor's still a criminal. The world knows he's evil, so no more LexCorp. He manages to steal back his fortune and starts building a criminal empire, staying one step ahead of Superman.

*I'd get rid of the MOS Origin and Birthright, and just go with a basic, easy to understand one.

*Due to Alexander Luthor's meddling with the different universes, the DCU is changed significantly. One of these changes is that Lois and Clark were never married, and Lois dosent know who Superman is.

*I'd bring back and revamp alot of the classic Superman villains.

*Superman and Clark would have two different personalities. Clark wont be overly goofy, however. Superman will actually act...Super.

*Superman rebuilds his Fotress of Solitude in the North Pole.

*The Superman books would be about Fantasy and wonder again, not just about punching supervillains.

 

[The Question]

Superman Universe

*Lex Luthor's still a criminal. The world knows he's evil, so no more LexCorp. He manages to steal back his fortune and starts building a criminal empire, staying one step ahead of Superman.

That would be cool. I always liked the buisnesman Lex, but having him be a crime boss on the run would be an interesting new angle.

*I'd get rid of the MOS Origin and Birthright, and just go with a basic, easy to understand one.

How are Birthright and MOS hard to understand?

*Due to Alexander Luthor's meddling with the different universes, the DCU is changed significantly. One of these changes is that Lois and Clark were never married, and Lois dosent know who Superman is.

Why?

*I'd bring back and revamp alot of the classic Superman villains.

I understand bringing them back, but why revamp them? Metallo, Bizarro, and Parasite are fine the way they are (with the exception of Rudy being dead).

*Superman and Clark would have two different personalities. Clark wont be overly goofy, however. Superman will actually act...Super.

I don't see why he has to act like two different people. Both aspects of his life are very different, and thus require different things from him. Superman is the hero. You notice him and admire him for his actions. Clark is the reporter. You notice and admire him for his words. That's how it should be handled, I think. Have Superman, to the people of Metropolis at least, seem less like a person and more like a force. You see what he does, but he just does it and doesn't say much. That way, you have him inspiring others, without having to take away from either aspects of his life.

*Superman rebuilds his Fotress of Solitude in the North Pole.

No complaints.

*The Superman books would be about Fantasy and wonder again, not just about punching supervillains.

Well, I gues getting into more sci-fi stuff would b interesting. But the problem with Superman is making sure that it doesn't get overly goofy.

 

[The Batman]

Batman Universe

*Realizing he's been an ass for years now, Bruce decides to go off and travel the world to relearn his purpose. He sends Tim to Japan to train with Richard Dragon to hone his fighting skills, and to various detectives to improve his detective work. He reluctantly leaves Gotham to The Question

*Commissioner Akins gets killed in action sometime during the year, and Jim Gordon, who gets back together with his first wife, takes up his role as commissioner.

*There's a mysterious vigilante named Batwoman, who's been brutally beating up criminals.

*Julie Madison is the new DA of Gotham City.

*Since playing a major role in saving the universe, Dick becomes a major player, finally moving away from Batman's shadow. He moves to NYC, and his book is now offically a DCU title.

*Batman and Robin return to find that Questions been chased out of town, and corruption in City Hall, with a large amount of supercriminals returning.

*Bruce is actually a character again, instead of seeing Batman all the time. Also, alot of supporting characters from Batman's history return.

 

[The Question]

Batman Universe

*Realizing he's been an ass for years now, Bruce decides to go off and travel the world to relearn his purpose. He sends Tim to Japan to train with Richard Dragon to hone his fighting skills, and to various detectives to improve his detective work. He reluctantly leaves Gotham to The Question

Cool idea. Although, I'm fairly certain that Richard Dragon lives in the Canadian mountains.

*Commissioner Akins gets killed in action sometime during the year, and Jim Gordon, who gets back together with his first wife, takes up his role as commissioner.

I don't think Gordon should become Comisioner again. It's just kind of going backwards. I think it would be better to have Gordon tell Batman outright that he knows who he is, and Gordon becomes Bruce's confidant.

*There's a mysterious vigilante named Batwoman, who's been brutally beating up criminals.

Interesting idea.

*Julie Madison is the new DA of Gotham City.

Who's Julie Madison?

*Since playing a major role in saving the universe, Dick becomes a major player, finally moving away from Batman's shadow. He moves to NYC, and his book is now offically a DCU title.

Since when was his book not a DCU title?

*Batman and Robin return to find that Questions been chased out of town, and corruption in City Hall, with a large amount of supercriminals returning.

The Question wouldn;t be chased out of town. Not in his character. He ain't a coward like that. He'd stay till they killed him.

*Bruce is actually a character again, instead of seeing Batman all the time. Also, alot of supporting characters from Batman's history return.

Cool idea.

 

[The Batman]

*The Marriage between Lois and Clark is boring. Even Jerry Siegel didnt think lois should ever marry Clark. Many times, Clark has looked feminine in the relationship, and lois acts like a complete B*tch to him. Mainly, the only time they should be married is when the story ends, like in Whatever happened to the man of tommorow.

*Clark was never supposed to be the all star football player or the award winning famous journalist. He was supposed to be your every day guy, passing through without no one noticing him. The great part about superman was that it was a metaphor: Even beneath the most mundane of personalities lay someone spectactular and well...Super.

*When I talk about classic villains, I mean ones that have fallen by the wayside, and have been forgotten. I'd revamp Zod though.

*Birthright and MOS take too many liberites. Birthright had the aura reading Superman who was a vegetarian. MOS had a Superman that completely rejected krypton and had some crappy birthing matrix crap.

 

[The Batman]

Cool idea. Although, I'm fairly certain that Richard Dragon lives in the Canadian mountains.



I don't think Gordon should become Comisioner again. It's just kind of going backwards. I think it would be better to have Gordon tell Batman outright that he knows who he is, and Gordon becomes Bruce's confidant.



Interesting idea.



Who's Julie Madison?



Since when was his book not a DCU title?



The Question wouldn;t be chased out of town. Not in his character. He ain't a coward like that. He'd stay till they killed him.



Cool idea.

Julie Madison was the first Batman love interest Bruce ever had. She's in Batman and the monster men, training to be a lawyer.

Nightwing is techincally apart of the Batman line. Its just considered a bat-book. I'm talking about moving him to a DCU Title, along with Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Aquaman, etc.

IMO, the only time the GCPD are interesting is when you have Gordon in there. He's just too iconic to replace.

I figured Question wouldnt run....but i couldnt think of another way to have him leave gotham so abruptly.

 

[The Question]

*The Marriage between Lois and Clark is boring. Even Jerry Siegel didnt think lois should ever marry Clark. Many times, Clark has looked feminine in the relationship, and lois acts like a complete B*tch to him. Mainly, the only time they should be married is when the story ends, like in Whatever happened to the man of tommorow.

I really like their relationship. And undoing it would just be taking a step backwards. Instead, if one isn't happy withe the marraige, one should try and find a way to make it work.

*Clark was never supposed to be the all star football player or the award winning famous journalist. He was supposed to be your every day guy, passing through without no one noticing him. The great part about superman was that it was a metaphor: Even beneath the most mundane of personalities lay someone spectactular and well...Super.

Well, the football thing I agree with. He wouldn't want to call atention to himself in that regard. But I like the idea of him being a talanted writer and journolist. Because, to him at least, it would have been something that he would have actually had to work at. Because of his powers, alot of things would have been easy for him. But to actuallyu try and cultivate a skill in writing, and to have a talant that didn't stem from his powers, that would mean alot to him. Make him feel a little less isolated.

*When I talk about classic villains, I mean ones that have fallen by the wayside, and have been forgotten. I'd revamp Zod though.

Well, bringing back Zod would be a bad thing.

*Birthright and MOS take too many liberites. Birthright had the aura reading Superman who was a vegetarian. MOS had a Superman that completely rejected krypton and had some crappy birthing matrix crap.

Well, I don't personally mind him rejecting Krypton. I never understood how someone raised on Earth would put so much emphasis on a culture he never actually new and a people he never actually met. Sure, I think Byrne went a bit too far. He should respect Krypton and where he came from. But it makes more sense to me that he'd have a greater respect for Earth.

Julie Madison was the first Batman love interest Bruce ever had. She's in Batman and the monster men, training to be a lawyer.

Okay. Cool.

Nightwing is techincally apart of the Batman line. Its just considered a bat-book. I'm talking about moving him to a DCU Title, along with Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Aquaman, etc.

I got ya'.

IMO, the only time the GCPD are interesting is when you have Gordon in there. He's just too iconic to replace.

But like I said, it would just be taking a step backwards. I'd rather have him be the retired cop who's a confidant to the now aging vigilante (Bruce would be considered middle aged by now, or close to it at least).

I figured Question wouldnt run....but i couldnt think of another way to have him leave gotham so abruptly.

Then why have him leave? Why not have him team with Batman for a while?

 

[The Batman]

Most adopted people want to know where they come from, especially if they;re alien. As for Gordon, Maybe you're right, but there are some things, IMO, that shouldnt be changed, and thats gordon as commissioner. Especially since he's really been the only interesting interaction between batman and the GCPD.

And about The Question....How about he leaves when Batman comes back, deciding that since Gothams in good hands, he should go protect hub city or chicago again?

 

[The Question]

Most adopted people want to know where they come from, especially if they;re alien.

Very true. I'm just saying, once he finds out, I still think he'd consider Earth as his home, and respects what he learned growing up an Earth more, even though he would respect Krypton.

As for Gordon, Maybe you're right, but there are some things, IMO, that shouldnt be changed, and thats gordon as commissioner. Especially since he's really been the only interesting interaction between batman and the GCPD.

Well, way I see it, have Batman not work well with the GCPD without Gordon, and have Gordon being his confidant, advising him to tread cautiosly with them now that he's out of the picture.

And about The Question....How about he leaves when Batman comes back, deciding that since Gothams in good hands, he should go protect hub city or chicago again?

That'd work.

 

[The Batman]

Green Lantern Universe

*The Guardians choose Kyle to be the first Ion, the Dc version of the Silver Surfer. He's granted more power than a regualr Green Lantern Corps member, and is tasked with the mission of watching over the DCU.

*John fills in Kyle's role as a leader of the GL Corps, since Geoff Johns apparently doesnt want to use him that much.

*Sinestro has formed a Sinestro Corps.

*Hal is stil not trusted by alot of the GL Corps and fellow DC Heroes.

*I'd revamp alot of Hal's villains from the 1960's.

*There's a new Parallax.

*The main idea of the GL books is to please fans of a certain GL. Most of the main GL's have important roles in the mythos.

 

[The Batman]

Wonder Woman Universe

*The Universe has changed so that Diana is indeed one of the original members of the JLA

*With paradise island and the gods gone, WW creates the identity of Diana Prince. One idea i had was that she'd be an agent of checkmate, but i dunno about that.

*Donna officially becomes the new Harbringer.

*The main idea would be to make Diana more appealing to the General audience and make her more of an icon alongside bats and supes. She wouldnt have an all new cast. She;d still be in NYC.

*Ares is still around on this plane of existence.

*I'd create a new version of Fury, and make her a villain.

 

[The Question]

*Sinestro has formed a Sinestro Corps.

Sounds interesting. What would they be like?

*There's a new Parallax.

Would it be someone trying to follow in Hal's footseps, as in making the universe better by force, or would it involve the yellow fear demon?

*The Universe has changed so that Diana is indeed one of the original members of the JLA

I don't really care either way, but I kind of liked Black Canary being an origional. I would, however, have had Wonder Woman come on the scene right about the time Superman and Batman joined the League, and not much later as it is now.

*With paradise island and the gods gone, WW creates the identity of Diana Prince. One idea i had was that she'd be an agent of checkmate, but i dunno about that.

I don't really see the point of her having a secret identity. It just doesn't seem to fit with her. Still, her becoming an agent of the government isn't a bad idea.

 

[The Batman]

The Sinestro corps is basically Sinestro giving the most vile, evil people in the universe a yellow power ring and telling them to cause anarchy and fear across the galaxy.

And with Parallax, it's about the Yellow Bug infecting someone and turning them into a power hungry being. Also, i felt the DCU needed more galatic characters like Marvel...