Dark Phoenix I'm guessig FOX didn't bother to hire a real director for this movie cause they knew

[TheNewSlayer]

They knew about the deal and thats why they didn't hire a real Director for X-Men Dark Phoenix. I wonder if there will be re-shoots.

I'm wondering what they'll change about this movie specially with the Phoenix Resurrection in the comics.

 

[Sithborg]

Yes, this is the exact same reason Orci was going to originally direct Star Trek 3, or why Kurtzman made his directorial debut with the Mummy.

Do not underestimate the power of studio politics.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

Yes, this is the exact same reason Orci was going to originally direct Star Trek 3, or why Kurtzman made his directorial debut with the Mummy.

Do not underestimate the power of studio politics.

Say that again?

 

[Sithborg]

Kinberg is directing this movie because of who he knows in the studio, not because Fox didn't care about the movie.

Universal placed the launch of their cinematic universe in Alex Kurtzman, also a long time producer, rather than an experience director. By your logic, they were just wanting it to fail. No, Kurtzman used the leverage he had built up in Hollywood to get the job.

It is more about who you know, than talent.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

Kinberg is directing this movie because of who he knows in the studio, not because Fox didn't care about the movie.

Universal placed the launch of their cinematic universe in Alex Kurtzman, also a long time producer, rather than an experience director. By your logic, they were just wanting it to fail. No, Kurtzman used the leverage he had built up in Hollywood to get the job.

It is more about who you know, than talent.

What I meant was that since Fox knew they'd sell everything to Disney and they'd probably change some stuff in the movie, why would they spend more money hiring a big name director, when they could hire Kinberg for much less.

That's what I meant. Fox decided to not spend money with a good Director cause they knew they'd sell everything and Disney would change the movie.

Disney will probably hire another Director to make some changes to the Dark Phoenix movie.

After so many years, Disney is resurrecting Jean Grey in the comics and giving her another comic book next year. This year Jean had the comic book "Jean Grey" and "X-Men Blue" where she was the leader of the X-men, even with Cyclops on the team.

Disney is betting a lot of money on Jean Grey and I'm sure they'll make some changes in the movie Dark Phoenix to make it even better.

 

[GuestStar2004]

What weird logic.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

What weird logic.

Money logic.

If you know that the ship will go down you'll not buy new stuff for it.

Since they new MCU would take over and change the film, would be best not to spend a lot of money with paying expensive Directors. Kinberg salary is not as big as a big name hollywood Directory.

 

[NotNickFury]

This couldn't be in the general discussion thread?

 

[GuestStar2004]

Money logic.

If you know that the ship will go down you'll not buy new stuff for it.

Then why invest 150 mil into the movie? 150 mil is not nothing.

 

[NotNickFury]

But 151 million, though...

Anyway, certainly this'll be a lightning rod when psy makes the rounds on the X-boards.

 

[Frankeh]

No, they didn't bother with a real director because they got cheap with this movie, Kinberg was the one willing to take a pay cut.

 

[X-Maniac]

No, they didn't bother with a real director because they got cheap with this movie, Kinberg was the one willing to take a pay cut.

Kinberg really wanted to do this Phoenix story.

So did Singer, but Kinberg has a lot of sway at the studio...

 

[Frankeh]

Kinberg really wanted to do this Phoenix story.

Yeah I guess he was really eager to take out the Shi'ar Empire, the Hellfire Club, and who knows what else.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Kinberg really wanted to do this Phoenix story.

So did Singer, but Kinberg has a lot of sway at the studio...

Singer didn't wanna do it bad enough apparently.

 

[psylockolussus]

Well at least Kinberg won't direct a second X-Men film. Marvel Studios has an X-cellent track record so I doubt they would Kinberg participate again as a writer or director.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Well at least Kinberg won't direct a second X-Men film. Marvel Studios has an X-cellent track record so I doubt they would Kinberg participate again as a writer or director.

No matter how often you do this, just like with your playing dumb act, it will never be clever.

 

[psylockolussus]

No, they didn't bother with a real director because they got cheap with this movie, Kinberg was the one willing to take a pay cut.

Well at least I won't feel bad that a not so great film won't be getting a sequel.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Look at the bright side, if it ends up sucking like Apocalypse, we can all blame Disney.

 

[psylockolussus]

I watch every Marvel film/TV episode for completion.

 

[The Guard]

How many "real directors" want to come into what is arguably the 10th X-Men film or so?

Especially after a poorly received prior film.

 

[Ordet]

Well at least Kinberg won't direct a second X-Men film. Marvel Studios has an X-cellent track record so I doubt they would Kinberg participate again as a writer or director.

Fravreau, Whedon and Russo are among the most useless and flattest directors of the last 10 years in great budget movie.

I don't call it a great track record.

If you mean 'money' then the Twilight Saga make the same money with less budget.

 

[DACrowe]

How many "real directors" want to come into what is arguably the 10th X-Men film or so?

Especially after a poorly received prior film.

Given what Waititi followed up, or how Matt Reeves boarded The Batman after BvS and the impending JL wreck, or James Wan for that matter who stuck around after BvS, I think that is a bit silly to say.

Now I don't think they'd get an auteur at this point. But there are plenty of competent directors who want a quick ticket to blockbuster money and opportunities. It isn't exactly like the Russo Brothers, most famous for Community episodes and You, Me, and Dupree, or Tim Miller were big "gets" when they were signed. I am sure they could have found someone way better than Kinberg, but here we are.

 

[SumT]

well, at least Whedon gave us a more faithful Wanda and Pietro, and not whatever kinberg did with 'Peter'.

not to mention the awesome team action sequences, that Singer and co. never gave us. add Vission and yeah, I preffer Whedon's work over Kinberg.

 

[The Guard]

Given what Waititi followed up, or how Matt Reeves boarded The Batman after BvS and the impending JL wreck, or James Wan for that matter who stuck around after BvS, I think that is a bit silly to say.

Taika made the third film in a franchise, following a fresh, if disappointing film, but Thor 2 was hardly a major financial disappointment or critically lambasted. If you look at Marvel, most of those films have been very well received, so if you consider it as part of that franchise, it's a no brainer.

Reeves is the only example I can think of, and that's only if you count the entire DCEU as one franchise, which I don't think we should.

Wan is making the first Aquaman movie ever. There's no "first X-Men movie ever" happening here.

DARK PHOENIX would have been at least the seventh film in a franchise, depending on how you look at it.

Now I don't think they'd get an auteur at this point. But there are plenty of competent directors who want a quick ticket to blockbuster money and opportunities. It isn't exactly like the Russo Brothers, most famous for Community episodes and You, Me, and Dupree, or Tim Miller were big "gets" when they were signed. I am sure they could have found someone way better than Kinberg, but here we are.

Hence my use of quotations and the statement "real director".

I didn't say it would be impossible, and I know there are actual directors out there who probably would have done it, but it would certainly be less likely that they would get a "name" or anyone with real clout or even considerable experience.

 

[random_havoc]

Fravreau, Whedon and Russo are among the most useless and flattest directors of the last 10 years in great budget movie.

I don't call it a great track record.

If you mean 'money' then the Twilight Saga make the same money with less budget.

Wow. Considering that the majority of those movies from those directors for marvel didn't just make immense money but also were highly rated by both critics and viewers, perhaps either it's your taste that's the problem, or superhero movies aren't the right genre for you