I'm Not Messing Around, I'm Doing Important Stuff in The Superhero Cinematic Civil War Thread - Part 61

[SwordOfMorning]

For the record, while Reeves' version is my favorite cinematic take to date, I am also all for a more colorful, fantastical take on Gotham/Batman. Grant Morrison's run is my favorite run of Batman comics, after all. But that ultra-generic commercial ain't it. Not by a long shot.

This. My strong preference in my lizard fan brain is for a much more fantastical Batman. The Reeves and Nolan versions are my favourite adaptations because they're amazingly good. Whether or not they conform to my personal fan wish list - which basically neither does at all, I'm a hardcore Bat Family nerd for instance - isn't very relevant to me.

 

[Lily Adler]

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This is probably just fan rumors but I'd be fine with that if there were X-Men and Spider-Man TAS cameos but there's no reason any of the What If? characters should be animated. Especially since we've already seen Captain Carter in live action.


I'm in a similar boat. I'm tempted to rent the movie Companion for $9.99 but I just know it's gonna drop on Max in a couple of weeks. I've heard it's good so I don't think I'd have much buyer's remorse anyway.

Is this a Roger Rabbit kind of thing?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I mean to be fair, we did see that animated world in Multiverse of Madness…

That was an entire world though. It wasn't Roger Rabbit. That just....would be terrible unless you're dealing with Spider-Ham or something

 

[Sithborg]

I mean...

 

[Drizzle]

All the people on r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers who say that this is too wacky and would be an absolutely terrible idea have no taste. This sounds absolutely bonkers in the best way. If they actually do this and can somehow manage to find a way to properly realize it onscreen, I will give them all of the flowers.

I mean to be fair, we did see that animated world in Multiverse of Madness…

@Sithborg beat me to it but this would probably be more like what we saw in ATSV.

But again, I still think characters that made their debut in What If? like Uatu and Kahhori (if they include her) should be live action.

 

[squeekness]

@Shinobi Shaw watch Paradise instead. I just started it today and its damn good. The best acting ive ever seen from James (Cyclops) Marsden.

He was super good in that.

 

[Lily Adler]

I mean...

Can we get Donald to play Miles, please.

 

[Still Wynning]

If you're adding cartoon characters, don't make them cartoons. That's just stupid

That was an entire world though. It wasn't Roger Rabbit. That just....would be terrible unless you're dealing with Spider-Ham or something

But, isn’t including animation in live action for the novelty of having animated characters next to real life actors the entire point? Otherwise, if they’re just gonna be live action, why even do it?

I get it if it’s something that is sort of MCU adjacent, like What If…?, since that’s characters would be technically live action. But, for something like X-Men ‘97 or Spider-Man: TAS, they originated as animated, so why wouldn’t they be animated when they cross over into the MCU?

I have yet to see a proper argument against this that tells me why this is a bad idea other than “it would look dumb/wacky“. Why is it a bad idea? Give specific reasons for it shouldn’t or wouldn’t work.

@Sithborg beat me to it but this would probably be more like what we saw in ATSV.

But again, I still think characters that made their debut in What If? like Uatu and Kahhori (if they include her) should be live action.

^^^This.

Basically, here’s my thought process:

-If they originated in an MCU adjacent animated project, they’ll be live action.

-If they had their origins separately from the MCU as an animated project, they stay animated.

Though, seeing YFNSM Peter Parker/Spider-Man in animated form standing side-by-side with Tom Holland Spider-Man, Andrew Garfield Spider-Man, and Tobey Maguire Spider-Man would be quite the spectacle.

 

[Spider-Fan]

But, isn’t including animation in live action for the novelty of having animated characters next to real life actors the entire point? Otherwise, if they’re just gonna be live action, why even do it?

I get it if it’s something that is sort of MCU adjacent, like What If…?, since that’s characters would be technically live action. But, for something like X-Men ‘97 or Spider-Man: TAS, they originated as animated, so why wouldn’t they be animated when they cross over into the MCU?

I have yet to see a proper argument against this that tells me why this is a bad idea other than “it would look dumb/wacky“. Why is it a bad idea? Give specific reasons for it shouldn’t or wouldn’t work.

^^^This.

Basically, here’s my thought process:

-If they originated in an MCU adjacent animated project, they’ll be live action.

-If they had their origins separately from the MCU as an animated project, they stay animated.

Though, seeing YFNSM Peter Parker/Spider-Man in animated form standing side-by-side with Tom Holland Spider-Man, Andrew Garfield Spider-Man, and Tobey Maguire Spider-Man would be quite the spectacle.

Something like Spider-Ham is fine, but of it is X-Men 97 or something else, that's just gonna be stupid to me. I don't care if those originated on an animated universe, they're still humanoids and should be played by actors. Spider-Ham's universe I would make an exception for cause he is basically a walking like Bugs Bunny type character. I also don't think it would work with your target audience. The MCU is over 30 movies deep plus shows, so the MCU and Marvel Multiverse is very familiar to the audience. Making it now partly Roger Rabbit I think would break that immersion and hinder more than add

 

[Spider-Fan]

I mean...

But in this case, they took Glover in and put him in an animated setting and it was a cameo. If they're characters in the entire movie that's completely different and will be goofier. Not all styles blend well

 

[Drizzle]

Though, seeing YFNSM Peter Parker/Spider-Man in animated form standing side-by-side with Tom Holland Spider-Man, Andrew Garfield Spider-Man, and Tobey Maguire Spider-Man would be quite the spectacle.

That's actually something I would have expected to see in Beyond the Spider-Verse with Miles, Peter B., TAS Spidey, Spectacular Spidey, etc. but who knows what's going on with that movie anymore.

 

[Lily Adler]

Alright, time to get revenge on Marvel, Jenna. Get your agent to call Gunn’s people! She would make a killer Zatanna. Or maybe Donna Troy.

And maybe being Sabrina Carpenter along to play Black Canary.

She has other plans:

 

[Drizzle]

She has other plans:

With the infinite reboots and sequels to '80s movies that we've seen over the last 20ish years, a new Gremlins movie is the one I'm most surprised that we haven't gotten yet.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

With the infinite reboots and sequels to '80s movies that we've seen over the last 20ish years, a new Gremlins movie is the one I'm most surprised that we haven't gotten yet.

Speaking of, I'm really annoyed that we're getting The Goonies 2 after all these decades.

I want to tell Spielberg


Just leave it alone.

 

[Lily Adler]

Speaking of, I'm really annoyed that we're getting The Goonies 2 after all these decades.

I want to tell Spielberg
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Just leave it alone.

I mean Disney tried to make a Disney Plus remake series.

 

[Moncton]

Looks like Snow White is getting very good reviews, at least from what I see.

 

[Lily Adler]

Looks like Snow White is getting very good reviews, at least from what I see.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[Lily Adler]

Yes join them John. Join them.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

The way I interpret that quote is "soft reboot" in regards to the MCU.

 

[Ninjablade]

lol what a nightmare.

 

[Deck Rickard]

@Shinobi Shaw watch Paradise instead. I just started it today and its damn good. The best acting ive ever seen from James (Cyclops) Marsden.

For real. Marsden’s character makes me wish we still had a president.

 

[Deck Rickard]

She has other plans:

Nice! I would be down for that too and she would be a great lead for a new Gremlins movie. I just hope that if we get one, they go full camp with it like Gremlins 2. I love the hell out of that movie. Never cared much for the first one.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Like I said in another thread, this is just word salad. It doesn't mean anything