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I'm Not Messing Around, I'm Doing Important Stuff in The Superhero Cinematic Civil War Thread - Part 61

Both Forever and Batman & Robin are a fun time. They weren't always, especially B&R but I feel like the Nolan and Reeves movies really softened my view on the Schumacher movies. It's '90s nostalgic fun.


I OWNED the game and still couldn't make it past the first level. That was way more annoying than The Lion King game IMO.
The Lion King I could get to where you become adult Simba, but could never figure out where to go in that level. I was actually pretty good at the Can't Wait to Be King level
 
It's always funny seeing the reassessment of "bad" movies when it's really people's nostalgia has grown since it came out.

For me I've always defended Batman & Robin back then and still today. It's funny now people go for bat (get it?) for Batman Forever, but Batman & Robin is somehow a bridge too far.

They'll eventually come to my side of things. :o
 
Both Forever and Batman & Robin are a fun time. They weren't always, especially B&R but I feel like the Nolan and Reeves movies really softened my view on the Schumacher movies. It's '90s nostalgic fun.


I OWNED the game and still couldn't make it past the first level. That was way more annoying than The Lion King game IMO.

Forever, The Lion King and Aladdin all had no business giving us all grief back on the SNES back in the day. :o
 
@Shinobi Shaw cover your eyes for this hotter take….


The “slog” of the 90’s Bat-franchise was and ever remains Batman Returns. Tim Burton’s woeful pacing issues first became truly apparent there and never really went away. And if you want to point fingers at what “nearly destroyed” the franchise, it was the reception to THAT film that caused the knee jerk tonal course-correction. The BvS of its time!*


*Justice League wishes it had managed to be the silly fun follow-up that Forever was. :o
 
It's always funny seeing the reassessment of "bad" movies when it's really people's nostalgia has grown since it came out.

For me I've always defended Batman & Robin back then and still today. It's funny now people go for bat (get it?) for Batman Forever, but Batman & Robin is somehow a bridge too far.
I think Batman & Robin is the first time where as a kid, I was aware the movie I was watching was bad, but I was having fun anyway. Prior to that, I was just an easy to please dumb kid lol!
 
The “slog” of the 90’s Bat-franchise was and ever remains Batman Returns. Tim Burton’s woeful pacing issues first became truly apparent there and never really went away. And if you want to point fingers at what “nearly destroyed” the franchise, it was the reception to THAT film that caused the knee jerk tonal course-correction. The BvS of its time!*
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It’s me. I f***ing love Batman Forever. Fight me!

Batman & Robin not so much, but Forever is always just a great time to me, and genuinely more creative and wild than most CBM’s today. 90’s movie audiences didn’t deserve it. 🤷‍♀️

#ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
I would watch Schumacher's cut if it were released. Probably only way I am ever watching the movie again, unless my kids start loving Batman and want to watch it sometime when they're older. But they're still on Paw Patrol and Disney movies, lol!
 
The Lion King I could get to where you become adult Simba, but could never figure out where to go in that level. I was actually pretty good at the Can't Wait to Be King level
I remember beating the Just Can't Wait to Be King level but then getting my ass handed to me immediately after that on the Stampede level. Having played it as an adult (and beating it using an emulator where I can pause and save wherever I want in case I messed up, thank you very much) the most annoying thing in that game was jumping up the logs in the waterfall in the Hakuna Matata level. That game really made it a point to make the most frustrating levels out of the two whimsical songs in the movie. :o

Forever, The Lion King and Aladdin all had no business giving us all grief back on the SNES back in the day. :o
I didn't play Aladdin on SNES until I was a little older but I had a pleasant time with that one. I vaguely remember having a harder time with the Genesis Aladdin at a friend's house but I did appreciate the prettier graphics.

@Shinobi Shaw cover your eyes for this hotter take….


The “slog” of the 90’s Bat-franchise was and ever remains Batman Returns. Tim Burton’s woeful pacing issues first became truly apparent there and never really went away. And if you want to point fingers at what “nearly destroyed” the franchise, it was the reception to THAT film that caused the knee jerk tonal course-correction. The BvS of its time!*


*Justice League wishes it had managed to be the silly fun follow-up that Forever was. :o
@flickchick85 was in this anti-Batman Returns kid mob audience confirmed. :o

 
I remember beating the Just Can't Wait to Be King level but then getting my ass handed to me immediately after that on the Stampede level. Having played it as an adult (and beating it using an emulator where I can pause and save wherever I want in case I messed up, thank you very much) the most annoying thing in that game was jumping up the logs in the waterfall in the Hakuna Matata level. That game really made it a point to make the most frustrating levels out of the two whimsical songs in the movie. :o


I didn't play Aladdin on SNES until I was a little older but I had a pleasant time with that one. I vaguely remember having a harder time with the Genesis Aladdin at a friend's house but I did appreciate the prettier graphics.


@flickchick85 was in this anti-Batman Returns kid mob audience confirmed. :o


The stampede level I thought was harder as a kid! But once you beat it once or twice, you get the pattern down pretty good and it's predictable.
 
It's always funny seeing the reassessment of "bad" movies when it's really people's nostalgia has grown since it came out.

For me I've always defended Batman & Robin back then and still today. It's funny now people go for bat (get it?) for Batman Forever, but Batman & Robin is somehow a bridge too far.

They'll eventually come to my side of things. :o
For me, it’s not so much nostalgia, and more the fact that as an adult, and someone now familiar with the Adam West Batman, I’m able to appreciate what Schumacher was doing so much more. I didn’t have that perspective as a kid when I saw it. I think it genuinely does the modernized take on the old TV show version really well. B&R just felt like a more half-assed attempt at the same though, like even Joel’s heart was no longer in it, which is why I don’t rate it as highly. Forever feels more fully-realized as a film to me. It’s also the only one of those 4 movies even remotely interested in exploring Bruce Wayne as a character.
 
@Shinobi Shaw cover your eyes for this hotter take….


The “slog” of the 90’s Bat-franchise was and ever remains Batman Returns. Tim Burton’s woeful pacing issues first became truly apparent there and never really went away. And if you want to point fingers at what “nearly destroyed” the franchise, it was the reception to THAT film that caused the knee jerk tonal course-correction. The BvS of its time!*


*Justice League wishes it had managed to be the silly fun follow-up that Forever was. :o

Granted, I get why Returns isn’t a lot of y’all’s cup of tea, but calling it the BvS of its time is just plain rude :sneeze:

But I’m always going to love that movie. It’s the first Batman thing I ever seen, it’s a visual feast for the eyes, and Michelle Pfeiffer acted her ass off in that one.

It’s always going to be Returns and Mask of the Phantasm for me. :o
 
Granted, I get why Returns isn’t a lot of y’all’s cup of tea, but calling it the BvS of its time is just plain rude :sneeze:

But I’m always going to love that movie. It’s the first Batman thing I ever seen, it’s a visual feast for the eyes, and Michelle Pfeiffer acted her ass off in that one.

It’s always going to be Returns and Mask of the Phantasm for me. :o
Same! Mask of the Phantasm in particular deserves more flowers
 
For me, it’s not so much nostalgia, and more the fact that as an adult, and someone now familiar with the Adam West Batman, I’m able to appreciate what Schumacher was doing so much more. I didn’t have that perspective as a kid when I saw it. I think it genuinely does the modernized take on the old TV show version really well. B&R just felt like a more half-assed attempt at the same though, like even Joel’s heart was no longer in it, which is why I don’t rate it as highly. Forever feels more fully-realized as a film to me.

To me I always found Batman Forever trapped between the two different tones that could never decide what it really wanted to be. Before the Snyderverse, Forever was my least-watched Batman movie. At least Batman & Robin stuck to one tone all the way through and while people may not like the tone or the hackiness, it was still fun to watch for me and it just has more things to laugh about.

Basically, if I wanted an all goofy Batman, I'd rather watch Batman & Robin (or the 66 movie) and if I wanted something more dark, sexy, and sinister, I'd rather watch Batman Returns.
 
I haven’t seen the Phantom in so long.

They ALWAYS played it on HBO/Cinemax.

Breaks my heart that you guys don’t remember The Black Scorpion though. :o
 
I also like to think of The Phantom's sister movie, The Shadow. I think of those movies as sister films of the era. So much nostalgia for those lol!
 
@Shinobi Shaw cover your eyes for this hotter take….


The “slog” of the 90’s Bat-franchise was and ever remains Batman Returns. Tim Burton’s woeful pacing issues first became truly apparent there and never really went away. And if you want to point fingers at what “nearly destroyed” the franchise, it was the reception to THAT film that caused the knee jerk tonal course-correction. The BvS of its time!*


*Justice League wishes it had managed to be the silly fun follow-up that Forever was. :o

@flickchick85 i thought we were friends!!!, You just dissed one of the seminal movies of my childhood. Next thing youre gonna tell me is Turtles in Time is better than TMNT 1990.
 
I always laugh when that kid "film critic" who said he was perfectly fine watching Terminator 2 but Batman Returns was too dangerous and deplorable.
Oh it's hilarious but looking at it through an objective lens, I do feel like Batman Returns dwells on creepy grotesque stuff more than T2 does. There's maybe two minutes worth of scenes in T2 that really push it into R-rated territory: The T-1000 kills, Sarah's nuke nightmare, and I guess the T-800 cutting the skin off his arm just for the gore. Trim some of the f-bombs out of there and you've basically got yourself a PG-13 movie.
 

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