I'm Not Messing Around, I'm Doing Important Stuff in The Superhero Cinematic Civil War Thread - Part 61

[AndrewGilkison]

Wasn't it called Avengers: Assemble in the U.K.?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It’s actually “Marvel’s The Avengers” because of Mrs. Peel.

I argued with myself whether I should write, "Marvel's".

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Wasn't it called Avengers: Assemble in the U.K.?

I believe so. Because of their TV show The Avengers.

 

[Drizzle]

I believe so. Because of their TV show The Avengers.

And the similarly titled movie that featured Sean Connery in a teddy bear outfit.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

And the similarly titled movie that featured Sean Connery in a teddy bear outfit.

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You unlocked a memory. I forgot ALL about that movie.

And Uma was Emma Peel!

 

[flickchick85]

 

[Ninjablade]

Hm... do I go to that

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I’m still on the fact that Forever turns 30 this year.

I saw it in theaters when I was 5.

 

[squeekness]

I’m still on the fact that Forever turns 30 this year.

I saw it in theaters when I was 5.

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I got dragged to see that, and my kid was a lot older than 5.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

MCU Rewind

2. The Incredible Hulk (2008) dir. Louis Leterrier

“Hulk, smash!”

Recasting is always a risk. Even on a beloved show like Andor replacing an genuinely miscast Jimmy Smits has brought out a decent level of ire. But for Marvel replacing Norton wasn’t a risk at all. It was the safest option.

Legend has it that The Incredible Hulk was the ringer. The guarantee to recoup whatever the studio lost on Iron Man. The irony of that release strategy will always be something to chuckle at but it also explains why the movie is so blah. A point and shoot action guy shooting a very point A to B script, where the major conflict is a raging father and whether our hero can keep his own in check. Perfectly fine for a network TV show in the 00s. Even looks likes like it belongs there. Not so much in the summer that had Iron Man and especially The Dark Knight.

It’s not all a slog. You can see Norton trying to pull something out of the mundane. There are moments he does it, especially during the admittedly harrowing transformation scenes. The idea that Banner’s body is kind of torn apart every time he transforms is neat and the one true instance in the MCU where the horrors of being the Hulk really registers. But it’s fleeting, much like Roth’s rather decent turn as Blonsky. Whose return in She-Hulk might of made the whole movie worth it honestly.

It’s this desire to want the film and Banner himself to be more that doomed Norton. For the MCU is where ambitious film making is reserved for those lucky few. This is why Hulk has never worked as anything more then a big green mascot.

The Incredible Hulk isn’t bad, nor is it good. It just is. The first in a series of low effort safe bets. Which is why there really isn’t much to talk about outside of the well intentioned rumblings of an artist that went unheard.

**1/4

Darth will return for Marvel’s first remake...

 

[kguillou]

I keep forgetting that Tommy Lee Jones was in Cap 1.

Tommy Lee’s agent probably was like “I got this great role for you lined up in this really gritty WWII flick, youre gonna love it.” Then while on set, Tommy Lee saw Hugo Weaving walking around with red prosthetics on his face and was like “what in the…? Wait a minute…”

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Tommy Lee’s agent probably was like “I got this great role for you lined up in this really gritty WWII flick, youre gonna love it.” Then while on set, Tommy Lee saw Hugo Weaving walking around with red prosthetics on his face and was like “what in the…? Wait a minute…”

The red prosthetics don't compare to whatever muscle suit they have him sporting.

 

[Ninjablade]

Tommy Lee’s agent probably was like “I got this great role for you lined up in this really gritty WWII flick, youre gonna love it.” Then while on set, Tommy Lee saw Hugo Weaving walking around with red prosthetics on his face and was like “what in the…? Wait a minute…”

Probably got a couple of war flashbacks to Batman Forever the first time he read a joke in the script.

 

[Lily Adler]

I’m still on the fact that Forever turns 30 this year.

I saw it in theaters when I was 5.

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[Lily Adler]

MCU Rewind

2. The Incredible Hulk (2008) dir. Louis Leterrier

“Hulk, smash!”

Recasting is always a risk. Even on a beloved show like Andor replacing an genuinely miscast Jimmy Smits has brought out a decent level of ire. But for Marvel replacing Norton wasn’t a risk at all. It was the safest option.

Legend has it that The Incredible Hulk was the ringer. The guarantee to recoup whatever the studio lost on Iron Man. The irony of that release strategy will always be something to chuckle at but it also explains why the movie is so blah. A point and shoot action guy shooting a very point A to B script, where the major conflict is a raging father and whether our hero can keep his own in check. Perfectly fine for a network TV show in the 00s. Even looks likes like it belongs there. Not so much in the summer that had Iron Man and especially The Dark Knight.

It’s not all a slog. You can see Norton trying to pull something out of the mundane. There are moments he does it, especially during the admittedly harrowing transformation scenes. The idea that Banner’s body is kind of torn apart every time he transforms is neat and the one true instance in the MCU where the horrors of being the Hulk really registers. But it’s fleeting, much like Roth’s rather decent turn as Blonsky. Whose return in She-Hulk might of made the whole movie worth it honestly.

It’s this desire to want the film and Banner himself to be more that doomed Norton. For the MCU is where ambitious film making is reserved for those lucky few. This is why Hulk has never worked as anything more then a big green mascot.

The Incredible Hulk isn’t bad, nor is it good. It just is. The first in a series of low effort safe bets. Which is why there really isn’t much to talk about outside of the well intentioned rumblings of an artist that went unheard.

**1/4

Darth will return for Marvel’s first remake...

TIH should have tipped us off that Marvel CGI wouldn't be the best.

 

[flickchick85]

TIH should have tipped us off that Mavel CGI wouldn't be the best.

It did.

 

[Sithborg]

I think its one thing for it to predict bad cgi people.

Its another for it to predict them having issues with basic green screen.

 

[Nardz937]

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Kevin Smith got it on a thumb drive from an auction if I recall right. I wonder if he's lending his out here or if more copies are starting to circulate, in which case it'd probably be a matter of time before it surfaces online now.

I’m still on the fact that Forever turns 30 this year.

I saw it in theaters when I was 5.

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Batman & Robin is the first movie I have memory of seeing in the theater. The WB logo turning to ice then breaking gave me a jump scare

 

[Filmfreak]

I believe so. Because of their TV show The Avengers.

My favourite Avengers out there.

 

[Lily Adler]

The red prosthetics don't compare to whatever muscle suit they have him sporting.

And then they ended up using CGI for the new guy.

 

[Lily Adler]

Kevin Smith got it on a thumb drive from an auction if I recall right. I wonder if he's lending his out here or if more copies are starting to circulate, in which case it'd probably be a matter of time before it surfaces online now.

Batman & Robin is the first movie I have memory of seeing in the theater. The WB logo turning to ice then breaking gave me a jump scare

 

[Pennywise]

 

[kguillou]

Finally we get to hear some dialogue from this movie hopefully. Lmao

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[Still Wynning]