I'm Not Messing Around, I'm Doing Important Stuff in The Superhero Cinematic Civil War Thread - Part 61

Well, the showrunners weren't too interested in the Supernatural main cast hooking up....

The fandom, however.....
I've caught some Supernatural in syndication and that show is so aggressively straight I find it absolutely hilarious how the fanbase shipped it. More power to them but yeah. Though I guess this is what happens when you don't cast any women as regulars. Which always felt weird to me.
 
I feel there is a non-zero chance that kripke has someone kiss the other with the reunion on The Boys.

I think the biggest issue for Superman for the box office, is if it can avoid the demographic issue that has been plaguing Marvel this year. I mean, with Final Destination blowing up, I Know What You Did Last Summer may be a threat from just pure demographics. The kids seem to be loving horror. And I love that for them.

From clips that have been popping up, I see Rosenbaum has interviewed Dean Cain. And I'm just thinking how can you be a decent interviewer and not go after him for his crazy ****.
 
I feel there is a non-zero chance that kripke has someone kiss the other with the reunion on The Boys.

I think the biggest issue for Superman for the box office, is if it can avoid the demographic issue that has been plaguing Marvel this year. I mean, with Final Destination blowing up, I Know What You Did Last Summer may be a threat from just pure demographics. The kids seem to be loving horror. And I love that for them.

From clips that have been popping up, I see Rosenbaum has interviewed Dean Cain. And I'm just thinking how can you be a decent interviewer and not go after him for his crazy ****.
I’ve watched a lot of Talkville and I’m not convinced Rosenbaum is the type of guy who would find any of Dean Cain’s **** particularly crazy.
 
Yall are so mean. :csad:

All I know is, the Knicks are closer to becoming NBA Champions and the First Family are on their way.

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Hi...been a while, friend😀

Congrats to the Knicks for making the ECF for the first time in 25 years 🤗🏀
I root for you guys for winning it all this season. (If not the Knicks, its Indiana...I just root for the Eastern Conference team😃)

And i saw this footage right here, and read a lot of people that says if the Knicks won the championship, NYC will become Gotham City 😅
 
It really hurts me to see how Dean Cain ended up Flick. Like you’re the only Asian Supes we have to date, be better.
A REALLY good Clark too (Supes not so much, but that didn’t matter so much on that show). Pretty much the blueprint for Hoechlin’s Clark and any other that leans into the Post-Crisis “Clark Is A Real Guy” characterization, which is my fave. Devastating he turned out to be human garbage. Thankfully his looks aged as well as his personality so I’m still able to watch the show and see a totally different person and enjoy it. :hehe:
 
Finally saw Thunderbolts* - first time in a movie theatre since last summer :yay:

I really enjoyed this, for the most part. I won't play the "Best MCU Movie Since..." game because I've enjoyed all the pandemic-era Marvel entries, more or less. Quantumania may be an outlier but I didn't hate it like many folks seem to...

Anyway, I appreciated the effort to break from formula and add some depth to the proceedings. I'm speaking relatively of course but there's an undercurrent of pathos to Thunderbolts* that I found refreshing. Florence Pugh in particular is a revelation: she anchors the movie and provides a point of identification to create that elusive suture with the audience. She's never really been on my radar before but I'm definitely a fan now...

I do admit to being a bit confused by the movie's marketing approach. If the plan was to rebrand the film all along, why not just do that from the outset? As many critics have pointed out, the rebranded name holds a lot of cultural currency and might have helped the bottom line. It's impossible to quantify and I don't presume to be more knowledgeable than a major Hollywood studio - last time I checked I wasn't a billionaire, millionaire, or even a thousandaire - but I do find the marketing choices surrounding the film a bit baffling...

At any point, I'm wary of overselling Thunderbolts* because, at the end of the day, it's still an MCU entry beholden to furthering the over-arching mythology. Still, the (relatively) more cerebral approach is welcome: were the movie nothing but one expensive CGI set piece after another, I think my visceral response to it would be easier to rationalize. As it stands, Thunderbolts* is grand entertainment and feels oddly personal on behalf of director Jake Schreier. It's not setting the box office on fire like past MCU entries but I think history will be kind to it. Once the dust finally settles on the whole CBM boom, Thunderbolts* may very well be remembered as one of the stickier late-era entries.

Well done, Marvel.


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Vanessa Kirby is in it!! I'm going for Vanessa Kirby, and so should everyone else :fhm: Pedro who?
Vanessa Kirby is an amazing choice for Sue. In general, I love what I see out of the main characters. I def get the right family vibes out of that dinner scene in the most recent trailer. It FEELS like the FF to me. I also love the bit with the Thing lifting the car for the kids. Classic Lee/Kirby era stuff. And that's the thing for me, it feels very classic Lee/Kirby era in a good way.
 
Vanessa Kirby is in it!! I'm going for Vanessa Kirby, and so should everyone else :fhm: Pedro who?
I've been excited since the official announcement since I was a fan of everyone's previous work. Kirby in M:I, Ebon Moss Bachrach in The Bear, Joseph Quinn in Stranger Things, Pedro in GOT, The Last of Us, etc.

Marvel's casting isn't as infallible as it used to be but Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four are back to back winners there.
 
What is keeping the FF: First Steps hype so low?

MCU fatigue? The 60s setting not appealing to a modern audience? The female Surfer turning fanboys off as its perceived as a gender swap of a known male character (even though its a completely different character)? The bad FF movies that have come before?

Its interesting that Superman (a character that has also been damaged by bad movies and being seen as old timey) seems to have more hype then the MCU version of the FF.

Did Reed Richards being written as a complete idiot in Multiverse Of Madness also have an affect?
How about FF fatigue?
And they were never that popular to begin with!
 
How about FF fatigue?
And they were never that popular to begin with!
I dont think there is FF fatigue simply cause I don't think the 2015 movie was seen by people outside nerds like us online, as indicated by its BO returns, and the OG movies were a modest hit and a financial disappointment that few outside again....nerds remember. It's not like we have gotten this plethora of FF media constantly. Quite the opposite. Largely by design cause Marvel was mad about the rights situation, but that's not helpful to them now. So I disagree about there being FF fatigue given the 1 modest hit people were most likely to have seen was 20 years ago, and that was it. Us nerds have had 3 FF films in 20 years, but your average movie goer probably saw 1 if any
 
I dont think there is FF fatigue simply cause I don't think the 2015 movie was seen by people outside nerds like us online, as indicated by its BO returns, and the OG movies were a modest hit and a financial disappointment that few outside again....nerds remember. It's not like we have gotten this plethora of FF media constantly. Quite the opposite. Largely by design cause Marvel was mad about the rights situation, but that's not helpful to them now. So I disagree about there being FF fatigue given the 1 modest hit people were most likely to have seen was 20 years ago, and that was it. Us nerds have had 3 FF films in 20 years, but your average movie goer probably saw 1 if any
The Fantastic Four were the first Super family! :ff:
 

This was the true one scenario to beat Thanos that Strange saw.

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Hi...been a while, friend😀

Congrats to the Knicks for making the ECF for the first time in 25 years 🤗🏀
I root for you guys for winning it all this season. (If not the Knicks, its Indiana...I just root for the Eastern Conference team😃)

And i saw this footage right here, and read a lot of people that says if the Knicks won the championship, NYC will become Gotham City 😅


Good to see you my friend!!!

Listen, if the Knicks win the championship by some miracle, you won't be able to tell our city NOTHING for a whole lifetime LOL.


Perfection.

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I've caught some Supernatural in syndication and that show is so aggressively straight I find it absolutely hilarious how the fanbase shipped it. More power to them but yeah. Though I guess this is what happens when you don't cast any women as regulars. Which always felt weird to me.
The angel says otherwise, Darth. :o
 

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