I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[AndrewGilkison]

I am confused... has Reeves got a first draft done or not?

 

[Johnny Frost]

I don't think Reeves does first drafts, from the way he described it during his writing process he constantly re-edits and rewrites until he thinks it's perfect, what he's writing now will be the final draft.

And he said he's already turned in large parts of the script to DC.

 

[donuts]

Everyone worrying needs to remember the weird time between Matt Reeve's hire (which he had almost turned down) and the point where we finally had a better understanding of what The Batman was potentially going to be as it was finally coming together (to the public eye).

Matt Reeves has recently been attached to two new DC Studios projects outside of his own The Batman saga. And that should tell you enough about the trust and collaboration between him and James Gunn and Peter Safran at DC Studios. There's likely a trust and short hand that's difficult to grasp from the outside.

 

[solidsnake86]

It's pretty clear to me that the mistake came from the article, before and after this interview Reeves was still saying he was finishing the script, the fact that they didn't give a direct quote from Matt confirming that the script was ready makes this even clearer.

It's a pretty big error on the author's part or the trade to make that mistake.

In any event, something is definitely going on. It's not even that a delay to march makes a difference because it's only 5 months. It's more that Gunn goes out of his way to say the script is not in yet. He could clarify and say it's almost done. He sounds like a troll at this point and we full well know he reads about what fans are saying.

If I had to take a guess, they probably didn't anticipate the penguin being so well received. Because it was, Reeves likely has more say then if it wasn't. Hollywood is very much of the attitude, was your last project a success, if so, you get more latitude to do what you want.

 

[Johnny Frost]

It's a pretty big error on the author's part or the trade to make that mistake.

In any event, something is definitely going on. It's not even that a delay to march makes a difference because it's only 5 months. It's more that Gunn goes out of his way to say the script is not in yet. He could clarify and say it's almost done. He sounds like a troll at this point and we full well know he reads about what fans are saying.

If I had to take a guess, they probably didn't anticipate the penguin being so well received. Because it was, Reeves likely has more say then if it wasn't. Hollywood is very much of the attitude, was your last project a success, if so, you get more latitude to do what you want.

This all sounds a bit unnecessarily confusing, Gunn talks as if he hasn't read anything yet, but Matt said he has already handed over large parts of the script to DC.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

This all sounds a bit unnecessarily confusing, Gunn talks as if he hasn't read anything yet, but Matt said he has already handed over large parts of the script to DC.

Confusion from hardcore fans long before movies are released is irrelevant

 

[Lily Adler]

The DCU:

 

[DeadlyWest]

I hope it was good hot chocolate.

Made on the stove, so you know it's god-tier

 

[Gandhi]

By placing Clayface so close to Batman, people are inferring the sequel is going to be delayed because you wouldn’t release them so close together. But it’s an interesting question as to why they didn’t just give Clayface the October date right away. It’s supposed to be a horror or at least horror adjacent so just before Halloween would suit it perfectly.

If there is no change to the Batman schedule and it still plans to release October 2026, they’re going to release them one month apart?

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I'd like to see Batman back in a Summer slot anyway, so May/June 2027 would be fine. Just over FIVE years between movie one and two feels crazy to me, but there has been issues with strikes, etc. It probably can't be helped.

I'd also happily take an announcement that Pattinson's Batman will be joining the DCU. BUT... Reeves gets to finish his trilogy in terms of tone and sensibility before another comes in and introduces Damien.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

I know we all want Matt Reeves to “cook” in his own universe but with how long it’s taking him to complete this script, the smart business play would be to bring everything together.

Also, surly Matt Reeves understands that this is not some indie film with no attention attached to it. I just wish he would come out and say something. “Hey, we’re still working hard in completing the final stage of the script.” I mean something like that but we got Gunn causing a panic lol

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I know we all want Matt Reeves to “cook” in his own universe but with how long it’s taking him to complete this script, the smart business play would be to bring everything together.

Also, surly Matt Reeves understands that this is not some indie film with no attention attached to it. I just wish he would come out and say something. “Hey, we’re still working hard in completing the final stage of the script.” I mean something like that but we got Gunn causing a panic lol

I think Gunn is just setting us up for the release date change. I can't believe Reeves hasn't directed one thing between Bat-movies. Every other Batman director managed it. He didn't even direct the pilot of The Penguin.

If I was running WB, I'd be telling Gunn to simplify. The Bat-franchise is too valuable to become watered down with multiple versions and branching narratives/projects on the big screen.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I can't belive I'm saying this considering how I felt a few years back, but I honestly wouldn't be upset if they merge pattinsons Batman into the DCU. I don't like the idea of 2 Batman franchises running at once, and I never have honestly. You can still have Reeves doing his own thing and then have it all merge. I think people immediately jump to the MCU format when it comes to shared unvierses because everybody is so used to that, but there is a way to make largely independent stories/trilogies with their own style, and flavor whil also be conntected to a larger world as a whole.

 

[DeadlyWest]

I mean me personally, I'm gonna be looking at DCU Batman in the same way that I look at Garfield or Holland's Spider-Man now that I finally got my version of Batman in Battinson

I already have my version of the character, so what reason do I have to give much care to this new version?

That's not to say the DCU Batman is gonna be bad nor is this a dig at them. But whether or not Battinson and this DCU Batman is gonna be running concurrently with each other is honestly irrelevant to me personally.

However, it is a risk for Battinson as Gothams pointed out. It's an inherently risky move to make as you are more than likely going to force audiences to pick between one Batman and the other. The choice to buy a movie ticket is not exactly a cheap one like it was 20 years ago, people are gonna be choosey nowadays with what they go see at the movies which is reflected by the fact that a LOT of genuinely great movies have been box office bombs lately. Because they're still using pre COVID budgets in a post COVID era where people just...don't really go watch movies much anymore. It ultimately is gonna come down to whether or not audiences pick between Battinson or DCU Batman. Which is a coin flip. So I do genuinely hope that the timings work out that Battinson's last movie happens around the same time that Dynamic Duo comes out or at the very least the last Battinson movie is greenlit around the same time as Dynamic Duo coming out. At that point, Battinson's box office won't really matter as much.

Only time's gonna tell

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Given the news of Dynamic Duo, Clayface, etc, I think Gunn may be pausing Brave and the Bold for the time being, focusing on other characters to flesh out the fantastical Batman world, while Batman part II gives us our Batman fix. And then Batman III in like 2030. (Then Bats in a JL movie in 2031, six years after Superman).

I do imagine Bats could appear in the DCU soon (be it in Creature Commandos, Dynamic Duo, Clayface, Waller, a flashback in the Teen Titans movie, etc) but Bats himself won’t be what the project is marketed around (the way Brave and the Bold would have been), thus not dealing with the potential issue of the box office not being able to sustain two Batmen.

Also, given that Reeves is a producer on all the DCU Bat projects as well, meaning he’s got a level of creative investment and isn’t ideologically opposed to the fantastical aspect of Batman even if it’s not present in his trilogy, I wouldn’t be surprised if the early years Batman trilogy ends up being like a soft prequel to the fantastical “present day” DCU Batman world, with potentially some cast members staying on (probably not Pattinson) and some things being reinterpreted, and obviously the “timeline” not being taken too literally. After all why would Reeves be brought in on these projects? Just cause he’s a proven filmmaker who knows how to do Batman? Surely Gunn could trust himself in this regard, or knows of tons of other capable creatives. Could it be that Reeves is involved to sign off on elements of these movies that in some way are related to his own Batman projects.

 

[Gandhi]

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I mean, you can't call it a draft if its not even a complete script.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I have to say it. I don’t think The Batman 2 is happening. I hope I’m wrong. But at this point, I don’t have hope for anything anymore.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

There's no way The Batman Part II doesn't happen. Reeves or Pattinson would have to walk and they seem perfectly content to me at the moment.

The Penguin just bought them further time and leverage. No need to hit the panic button yet.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Absolutely nothing has changed. We knew the script wasn’t finished. We knew that what Reeves had been giving DC was sections of it and not a full draft.

That March date is painfully obviously for a delay but the movie isn’t canceled guys lol. This is one of the most dramatic and panicky sub fandoms I’ve ever encountered.

 

[J.Drangal]

There's absolutely no question about it, The Batman Part II is happening...

... in 2029.

 

[WayneMB]

when Matt finishes the script i hope he posts a pic on twitter.

 

[AndyTrevino]

First of all, Battinson doesn't need DCU baggage, especially if it ends up flopping. Better to just let him remain in his own little sandbox; the further from a traditional CBM it is, the better.

Second of all: Reeves writes his scripts act by act/scene by scene until he's satisfied, plus he was also working here and there on The Penguin and stepped away for the 5 month-long writer's strike. It makes sense why it'd take this long.

 

[DeadlyWest]

I have to say it. I don’t think The Batman 2 is happening. I hope I’m wrong. But at this point, I don’t have hope for anything anymore.

Part 2 100% will happen. All this honestly just calls into question Part 3, more than anything. Part 2's box office has to be solid to justify all these production hurdles for a potential Part 3.

 

[TheGDBatman]

I can tell it’s the start of a new week because we’re back to discussing whether or not The Batman Part II is happening…