In the Kitchen with DKDetective and InCali: All Things Food, Wine, and Spirits, Etc.

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  1. MissMarvelous Alienated

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    I think, and please do correct me if I'm wrong, it also depends if the animal can walk freely (thus you'll get a harder meat) or if they keep them in a small place (you feed them, keep them chubby, you get a tender meat but also full of fat).
     
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  2. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

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    That is a factor as well in the traditional analysis, but for these ones that the Europeans and some North American chefs are using, they are actually pasture fed and allowed to free roam. The grass and fresh air contributes to the flavour of the meat. The old-fashioned thought is that the meat would be very tough, but it is not. It is incredibly tender. The thinking is that the happy, stress-free lives of the cattle and the dry-aging are more than enough to tenderize the steak cuts like the rib primal or the short loin. I suspect the short ribs, shanks, etc. would have lots of connective issue and be very tough if you try to grill them, but they probably make for wonderful braising and smoking cuts as a result. Where all of that connective issue makes for wonderful gelatin when slow cooked. The best European cheeses are made from dairy cows that are allowed to climb and graze on alpine pastures.
     
  3. Guts Smug

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    Thinking about making an olive oil cake but with an Earl Grey tea in the batter along with orange zest as well.
     
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  4. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

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    I like the idea of an Earl Grey cake, but I wonder if a more traditional batter using butter might work better than olive oil? Milk fat is such a classic pairing for tea. If you could get some bergamot oranges for the zest that would be the icing on the cake.

    Here is a recipe that also adds chocolate to pair with the orange zest:
    Earl Grey Tea Cake With Dark Chocolate and Orange Zest Recipe
     
  5. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

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  6. Guts Smug

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    A few weeks ago I made some doughnuts using a brioche recipe from a restaurant I used to work at. The recipe makes 50 pounds worth or brioche dough but I scaled it down to something more manageable for a home recipe. The liquid in the dough is milk and eggs with the milk being 140 ml. When I made doughnuts with the recipe I decided to do 70 ml of milk and 70 ml of fresh brewed coffee instead. For a little coffee flavor in the doughnut. Didn't do a glaze, instead I dusted them in some sugar with cinnamon and nutmeg. The flavor reminded me a little bit of a Krispy Kreme but a bit better.
     
  7. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

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    They sound amazing. The combining of the coffee and cinnamon flavours into a donut dish reminds of the French Laundry classic, "Coffee and Donuts" in the best possible way. (I'm planning to make it for my wife next weekend.). You should post some photos of your creations here. I think we would all love to see them. :D
     
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  9. MissMarvelous Alienated

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    Absolutely! We want to see those buns... rolls, sorry. :p
     
  10. MissMarvelous Alienated

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    Finally made my mind and decided to give it a try to the cured egg yolks, they have been for a few days in the fridge by now and today I should take them out and wrap them in gauze for 2 weeks so they dry.

    (This was the 1st day) - salt/sugar/liquid smoke/powder garlic/pepper/thyme
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  11. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

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    Very cool. I actually had cured egg yolk last night as part of my wife's and my anniversary dinner. Our favourite little French Bistro let us do special takeout. My starter was Steak tartare with crostini, arugula and cured egg yolk garnish. It was amazing.
     
  12. MissMarvelous Alienated

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    Do you dry them in the oven?
     
  13. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

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    I'm afraid I have no clue. This time, I was just the diner.
     
  14. MissMarvelous Alienated

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    Ops! haha sorry, never read the "take out" part.
     
  15. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

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    I had a ribeye, twice baked potato and broccoli. Very simple. Grilled ribeye, some garlic salt, paprika, and ground pepper and let it sit in the fridge for a day. Flash fried the broccoli with a hint of a szechuan sauce I make (soy sauce, chili paste, rice vineger, garlic.....most people like a sweetener, but I don't. I left out the thickener because I wanted a lighter taste). For the twice baked potato, I usually just use butter, green onion, salt and pepper, and top with a little cheese before baking, but when I started to close the fridge door, the jalapenos caught my eye so I added them. Presto! Irish nachos! It was really good and you don't need to use much.

    When I was broke and in college, my buddy and I used to get those bags of russet potatoes. We'd weigh them and buy the ones that were heaviest. We called them Irish steaks. LOL. Still like them.
     
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  16. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

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    Sounds most excellent! I am also a big fan of salting the day before and allowing osmosis to pull the salt into the meat. It works especially well with really thick cuts like Cote de Boeuf or Bistecca alla Fiorentina. Did you try resting the ribeye on a rack without any foil?

    Tonight as the last big dinner of my week off work, I am making the famous Lobster Macaroni and Cheese from the French Laundry Cookbook. As it calls for live lobsters that are quickly blanched to separate the meat from the shell, this was me this morning:

    I still have the bloody song stuck in my head. :funny:

    Since I have unofficially been cooking my way through Thomas Keller's French Laundry Cookbook the last few weeks, watching the Julie and Julia clip, made me wonder if I should start a "TK and DK" journal of my efforts... Thoughts?
     
  17. InCali I got a pUpgrade!

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    Hey, hey, hey......don't be mean because remember.......:argh:

    As a matter of fact I did and it definitely does change the character. Either is really fine with me.

    As far as live lobsters go, I have my wife cook them. People may laugh, but I feel sorry for them. I know that doesn't make any sense, but that's just how it is.

    As far as songs getting stuck in your head goes, @LibidoLoca mentioned Waterloo by ABBA; god those people annoyed me and after years of blissfully ignoring them, I got that stupid song stuck in my head for about 5 days. I hope this doesn't rekindle the torture. :nrv:
     
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  18. Guts Smug

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    Sharing that brioche recipe.
    4 grams of dry active yeast
    141 grams of milk
    70 grams of bread flour
    293 grams of eggs
    451 grams of bread flour
    58 grams of sugar
    15 grams of salt
    270 grams of butter.

    Warm the milk to at least one hundred degrees Fahrenheit, mix in the yeast, and once the yeast is fully dissolved mix in the 70 grams of flour. Cover with plastic wrap and let it sit in a warm spot for at least 30 minutes. Next, add all the other ingredients except the butter. You want to preferably use a stand mixer, but if you want to use your own hands then be my guest. Mix on a slow speed until it comes together and then move to a faster speed and keep mixing until you get some gluten in it or it starts to pull away from the bowl. Add the butter little at a time, The fat in the butter breaks down the gluten in the dough, so now you will continue to mix further until that gluten comes back together again.

    https://www.thekitchn.com/bakers-techniques-how-to-do-th-70784
     
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  19. MissMarvelous Alienated

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    @DKDetective, my father says "hello" and sends you these:

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  20. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

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    Thank you! I'll pass the compliment.

    Those have been cooking for about two hours now, so very very slowly. And there are some potatoes (with butter) wrapped in aluminum paper hidden in the charcoal.
     
  22. Guts Smug

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    I've never tried doing it at home myself, but have any of you guys ever do stuff with sous vide?
     
  23. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

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    I haven't but I want to getting around to trying it. I just picked up Thomas Keller's "Under Pressure" regarding cooking sous vide, haven't had a chance to crack it open yet.

    By the way, my wife's parents gave us a gift card to our favourite local kitchen wares store and we've decided to get an Emile Henry Bread Cloche with it., so I can finally start making some of that bread from the Bouchon Bakery cookbook.
     
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    Each day... Further from God's light. :o
     
  25. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

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    Wtf?
     

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