The Dark Knight Instead of killing Rachel, make her BECOME Harley Quinn.

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7Hells said:
Who says Dawes and Wayne havent had sex?
Id guess they were each others first.
NO!!!
FALSE!!
I SAY THEY HAVEN'T!!
Bruce Wayne is a virgin, and will stay that way till i say!!!
 
diagonbruce said:
*yawn...stretch* I guess Nolan is actually Joel Schumacher in disguise.
i just slapped you with a fish... you just don't know it yet.
 
I think they should put her in BB3 although I dont want to see her in a Batman movie ever.
 
This is a stupid idea. Sound slike something a Hollywood exec would come up with.
 
lol I had the same thought when I first read his post too.
 
Yes best friends with benefits. I give Nolan major props for creating Rachel Dawes. She's a great female heroine.
 
Can't say I'm much for this idea.

It's about on par with a "Rachel Dawes becoming Two-Face" idea I read in a issue of CBG months ago. :o

No. Just ... no.
 
Superboy Prime said:
Can't say I'm much for this idea.

It's about on par with a "Rachel Dawes becoming Two-Face" idea I read in a issue of CBG months ago. :o

No. Just ... no.

Actually, besides the fact that it contradicts years of Comc Book tradition, that is not an outragous idea. The villian would not be changed at all.
 
agentdawes said:
I give Nolan major props for creating Rachel Dawes. She's a great female heroine.
Ya, Ive never seen a character like hers in a movie before.
You know, the beautiful and hard nosed professional idealist.
Her character is years ahead of its time......... :whatever:


It was a boring character created to manage exposition.
Her character basically replaced a lengthy montage of Waynes decision to become Batman.
 
StorminNorman said:
Actually, besides the fact that it contradicts years of Comc Book tradition,

Thats the problem.

It's too radical of a change.

When I want to watch Catwoman in a movie. I want to see Selina Kyle as Catwoman. And the same goes for Harvey Dent/Two-Face.
 
I actually really like this idea. My only problem with it is, it would take a lot of the focus off the Joker and put it on Harley.
 
7Hells said:
Nolan seems to be keeping a close tie to the comics so I doubt he would go for the idea.

Wait, making Ducard and Ra's the same person is keeping close ties with the comics?

Hey, all I'm saying is he's already altered the villains in Begins, what's so bad about making Rachel into Harley Quinn?
 
Ducard and Ra's are in the comics.
Rachel is not.
 
Majik1387 said:
Because the idea sucks.
I'm sorry but it's a dumb idea. Not only do Rachel and Harleen have nothing in common, and Rachel isn't a character that would turn to a villain.

Exactly. Honestly, I think it'd much more believable to see Bruce become a villain that it would Rachel. It's just a horrible, awful, ludicrous idea. I guarantee it would piss off a LOT of people, myself included.
 
..................................but I thought Katie Holmes wasn't going to be in the next one cause Cruise has her sat in the house making placenta burgers and praising xenu, while raising the antichrist?
 
Is that supposed to be funny jeemer?

That's more proof the Batsies do keep track of the tabloids.
 
Lead Cenobite said:
Wait, making Ducard and Ra's the same person is keeping close ties with the comics?

Hey, all I'm saying is he's already altered the villains in Begins, what's so bad about making Rachel into Harley Quinn?

But it's more than just a change to comics that seems to bother most people. It's also the fact that it outright doesn't make sense. Ducard really being Ra's made sense in the storyline. Rachel Dawes becoming a crazy henchwoman of the Joker would just be balls out ridiculous. No one would be able to buy it, and it would make for a terrible story.
 
Lead Cenobite said:
Hey, all I'm saying is he's already altered the villains in Begins, what's so bad about making Rachel into Harley Quinn?

Not only is this thread a crappy idea...but that question is...I'm just going to unsubscribe this thread.
 
jeemer said:
..................................but I thought Katie Holmes wasn't going to be in the next one cause Cruise has her sat in the house making placenta burgers and praising xenu, while raising the antichrist?

I don't wanna even see what the french fries would look with that.
 
Being crazy is contagious. Finch dies, Rachel either dies too or goes crazy and Harvey goes crazy too. That Gotham's District Attorney's office needs a lot of holy water.
 
For her sakes, I hope she can restore credibility in her public persona and career, but it is what it is
 
Harley really isn't that complex. That isn't to say she isn't a good character.

And, truthfully, it doesn't matter what medium she was adapted from. The second Harley Quinn became a comic book character was the second Nolan was obligated to respect that. Jesus Christ. I mean, by your logic, the Spider-Man movies could turn Mary Jane into Firestar, and the X-Men franchise could turn Moira MacTaggert into X-23.
And it would be an unexpected twist, but the backlash would be so strong, that WB wouldn't dare try it. Besiades, it's a pretty stupid idea anyways.
On top of that, Dawes is too sane to ever try that, and way too good-hearted. Also, Holmes doesn't have the acting chops.
 
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